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Old 04-14-2018, 2:44 AM
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Well, they say the proposal to split California into 3 States is gaining traction, and may actually make it to the November Ballot:

http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2018/...vember-ballot/


So, looking at this from the CCW Point of View, here is a rough diagram of what it would look like, based upon current Good Cause requirements:



I do not know nor am qualified to make a statements, but one thing I know is that if this ever were to happen, as an Orange County resident, I sure as hell am pleased not to be lumped into "California."
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Old 04-14-2018, 4:31 AM
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I'd have to move to Southern California from San Benito County. Even more important than CCW is the overall gun law environment. The new "California" will be even more anti-gun than the old California. I'd move in a heartbeat.
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Would that mean the roster only applies in ‘California’ then? Hmmm...interesting.
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Would that mean the roster only applies in ‘California’ then? Hmmm...interesting.
I suppose that all current laws would apply to all three news states initially, and it would be up to the citizens of each new state to change them as they see fit.
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The biggest thing for me would be having to disarm when heading into one of the other states. I don’t think the split will ever become a reality, but if it did I’m pretty sure Northern California and California would not honor a Southern California CCW.
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It is not going to happen. Period end of story!
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Would that mean the roster only applies in ‘California’ then? Hmmm...interesting.
I suppose that all current laws would apply to all three news states initially, and it would be up to the citizens of each new state to change them as they see fit.
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The biggest thing for me would be having to disarm when heading into one of the other states. I don’t think the split will ever become a reality, but if it did I’m pretty sure Northern California and California would not honor a Southern California CCW.
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It is not going to happen. Period end of story!
It can happen, depending on how much money the Democrats want to throw at it to make it happen.

The proposed split ensures that all three states will maintain a progressive liberal majority voting base and would give the Democrat Party four new US Senate seats.
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The proposed split ensures that all three states will maintain a progressive liberal majority voting base and would give the Democrat Party four new US Senate seats.
Perhaps. But those of us in Northern California and the Central Valley would welcome the opportunity to shed Southern California and its behemoth electorate. Everything to the south of the Grapevine feels like a different country to us, yet they control our lives.
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The proposed split ensures that all three states will maintain a progressive liberal majority voting base and would give the Democrat Party four new US Senate seats.
Yep. Totally gerrymandered. I'm sure the GOP will sue, but depending on the political composition of SCOTUS....

If "demographics is destiny", I wonder which will be first to act like Zimbabwe/Rhodesia -- and now South Africa -- and use force to take away the lands owned by whites to give them to Latinos (under Reconquista: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reconquista_(Mexico))? I predict mass migration and a seismic shift in CA real estate prices depending upon how "bad" (or "good", depending upon your skin color), things get....

We, in this country, are near the point where "the falcon can no longer hear the falconer" and the center won't hold (culture, or even Constitution).... And we totally brought it upon ourselves by allowing Leftists to rule the teachers association, listening to the MSM/Hollywood/Madison Ave "elites", and allowing mass immigration, legal and illegal, from non-Western (aka non-white) nations -- "Suicide of the West."
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I am just irritated that the proposed split is not following political or cultural groupings.
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Perhaps. But those of us in Northern California and the Central Valley would welcome the opportunity to shed Southern California and its behemoth electorate. Everything to the south of the Grapevine feels like a different country to us, yet they control our lives.
Much of the Central Valley (south of Merced) is still stuck with Southern California the way it is drawn currently.
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I am just irritated that the proposed split is not following political or cultural groupings.
Me too !!! I was hoping the "right" would find a way to bet more of the electoral votes ! LOL
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Perhaps. But those of us in Northern California and the Central Valley would welcome the opportunity to shed Southern California and its behemoth electorate. Everything to the south of the Grapevine feels like a different country to us, yet they control our lives.
Are you kidding me? Don’t forget you have San Francisco & Sacramento.
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Are you kidding me? Don’t forget you have San Francisco & Sacramento.
If we can expel the SoCal legislators and their minions, we have a solid base.
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I currently live within what would be "SoCal." I can tell you that the electorate is much more center to center-right than the coastal parts of the State. I could see a much different environment if this were to happen. NOTICE which of the three states would control the border.

My major gripe is that the Bay Area should be included with LA and stay in the new CA.

That said... I do not see this happening.

However, here are my general thoughts... for what they're worth.

The electoral map for Presidential elections could change significantly. Currently, California's fifty-five electoral votes are a winner-take-all situation with Democrats ALWAYS taking those fifty-five... without even a whimper from the Republicans. In the three-state arrangement... those fifty-five electoral votes would be split up based on population.

The result might not be much different in the end. Clearly, the new CA would go Dem without fail. The new NoCal would very likely go Dem (however... the wrong Dem candidate... say from San Fran or Sac... might provoke a turnout to toss them over the side). Now... the new SoCal might be different. Hillary beat Trump by under 2% within the boundaries of the new SoCal. If a Republican could win this new SoCal State... it could be a game-changer for national elections.

My point being... the fifty-five electoral votes (as a block) would no longer be guaranteed to the Dems. For instance... if Kamela Harris were the Dem nominee for President... the new SoCal would not vote her in. I am certain of this. It is interesting.

Now... for the US Senate? I agree... I cannot see a path beyond breaking even when compared to where we are now. Currently, we are almost guaranteed two Dem Senators. Let's take that as a given (the two US Senators from the new CA would always be Dem). That would mean that the other two new states (NoCal and SoCal) would need go two Dem and two Rep... just to maintain current percentages. I could potentially see the new SoCal selecting two Rep Senators given the proper candidates. However... NoCal would be much tougher. I could maybe see getting one Rep Senate seat in the new NoCal if they insisted on running Dem Senate candidates that have very strong ties to the Bay Area. My sense is that the more rural and eastern or northern parts of the new NoCal would not be thrilled with this.

Just my take.

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I currently live within what would be "SoCal." I can tell you that the electorate is much more center to center-right than the coastal parts of the State. I could see a much different environment if this were to happen. NOTICE which of the three states would control the border.

My major gripe is that the Bay Area should be included with LA and stay in the new CA.

That said... I do not see this happening.

However, here are my general thoughts... for what they're worth.

The electoral map for Presidential elections could change significantly. Currently, California's fifty-five electoral votes are a winner-take-all situation with Democrats ALWAYS taking those fifty-five... without even a whimper from the Republicans. In the three-state arrangement... those fifty-five electoral votes would be split up based on population.

The result might not be much different in the end. Clearly, the new CA would go Dem without fail. The new NoCal would very likely go Dem (however... the wrong Dem candidate... say from San Fran or Sac... might provoke a turnout to toss them over the side). Now... the new SoCal might be different. Hillary beat Trump by under 2% within the boundaries of the new SoCal. If a Republican could win this new SoCal State... it could be a game-changer for national elections.

My point being... the fifty-five electoral votes (as a block) would no longer be guaranteed to the Dems. For instance... if Kamela Harris were the Dem nominee for President... the new SoCal would not vote her in. I am certain of this. It is interesting.

Now... for the US Senate? I agree... I cannot see a path beyond breaking even when compared to where we are now. Currently, we are almost guaranteed two Dem Senators. Let's take that as a given (the two US Senators from the new CA would always be Dem). That would mean that the other two new states (NoCal and SoCal) would need go two Dem and two Rep... just to maintain current percentages. I could potentially see the new SoCal selecting two Rep Senators given the proper candidates. However... NoCal would be much tougher. I could maybe see getting one Rep Senate seat in the new NoCal if they insisted on running Dem Senate candidates that have very strong ties to the Bay Area. My sense is that the more rural and eastern or northern parts of the new NoCal would not be thrilled with this.

Just my take.

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Do you realize that the electorate is based on population? All of "California" would be blue and get nearly 1/2 of that 55. Then Northern California is still biased to the bay area and they would get nearly the other 1/2 and still be blue, with Southern California would get the rest. And that would be purple, at best.

I'd prefer an Eastern and Western CA. East would be Sac to Bay Area and then south along coast to LA. Eastern CA would be SD towards NV/AZ and north to OR
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Do you realize that the electorate is based on population? All of "California" would be blue and get nearly 1/2 of that 55. Then Northern California is still biased to the bay area and they would get nearly the other 1/2 and still be blue, with Southern California would get the rest. And that would be purple, at best.

I'd prefer an Eastern and Western CA. East would be Sac to Bay Area and then south along coast to LA. Eastern CA would be SD towards NV/AZ and north to OR
I get it and I agree. My point is that IF it were to happen... there would be at least a portion of the 55 electoral votes that would be up for grabs.

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San Diego county by all recent reports is improving.
Ask me in a few months and I will be able to personally tell you.
Imperial County would be the only CCW turd in the punchbowl in a "new" Southern California state.

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Easier to move to Idaho than to worry about this.
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My take.... on our part of California, i say separate from those loonies in Sacramento and incorporate ourselves with Arizona.. lower state tax, cheaper gas, and FREEDOM !!!
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I just hope I retire and move out of state before I have to worry about this. I would not want the headache of driving across the new state boundaries to go to work just for the myriad of legal pitfalls.
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What he said.


It can happen, depending on how much money the Democrats want to throw at it to make it happen.

The proposed split ensures that all three states will maintain a progressive liberal majority voting base and would give the Democrat Party four new US Senate seats.
No, it has to be approved by the US Senate. No way in heck they will allow four new Demo seats.
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No, it has to be approved by the US Senate. No way in heck they will allow four new Demo seats.
I am fairly certain that you are correct. There is a reason that Washington DC and Puerto Rico are not states... even though many have tried.

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I am fairly certain that you are correct. There is a reason that Washington DC and Puerto Rico are not states... even though many have tried.

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Washington DC is not allowed to be a state because the Constitution says it cannot.
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Washington DC is not allowed to be a state because the Constitution says it cannot.
I am aware. However, it has been a talking point on the left forever.
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My take.... on our part of California, i say separate from those loonies in Sacramento and incorporate ourselves with Arizona.. lower state tax, cheaper gas, and FREEDOM !!!
The "loonies" in Sacramento are sent to us from places like Fontana.

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How will the electoral college work? More chances for a R to win?
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Yep. Totally gerrymandered. I'm sure the GOP will sue, but depending on the political composition of SCOTUS....
As long as the GOP remain in the majority in the Senate, they don't have to sue. They just don't approve it.
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Are you kidding me? Don’t forget you have San Francisco & Sacramento.
Yep, the red and yellow out-populate the greens by a bit over 2 million people...

The New Southern CA however, assuming San Diego really is and stays at least light green, would only have Imperial as a red/yellow county. Meaning a pro-CCW and possibly a pro-right leaning state. Thats just based on colors of the map though....
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Let’s save bandwidth. This will never happen. Never.

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Yep. Totally gerrymandered. I'm sure the GOP will sue, but depending on the political composition of SCOTUS....

If "demographics is destiny", I wonder which will be first to act like Zimbabwe/Rhodesia -- and now South Africa -- and use force to take away the lands owned by whites to give them to Latinos (under Reconquista: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reconquista_(Mexico))? I predict mass migration and a seismic shift in CA real estate prices depending upon how "bad" (or "good", depending upon your skin color), things get....

We, in this country, are near the point where "the falcon can no longer hear the falconer" and the center won't hold (culture, or even Constitution).... And we totally brought it upon ourselves by allowing Leftists to rule the teachers association, listening to the MSM/Hollywood/Madison Ave "elites", and allowing mass immigration, legal and illegal, from non-Western (aka non-white) nations -- "Suicide of the West."


Jeez, bud, that’s a really intractable case of white supremacy (correction: fragility) you have there.


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No comment as this will not happen in many life times.
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Next topic.

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Interesting comment. How many lifetimes do you figure it will take?
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Perhaps. But those of us in Northern California and the Central Valley would welcome the opportunity to shed Southern California and its behemoth electorate. Everything to the south of the Grapevine feels like a different country to us, yet they control our lives.
Sure you can be lumped in with San Francisco and their population majority. Enjoy.

I will be thrilled to stay in Orange County, the "new" Southern California and shed San Francisco, Sacramento and Los Angeles.
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“California” would sort of keep the same shape, just smaller... lol


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Let us not waste any further bandwidth and move on to the next topics, shall we

Help me decide: .40 or 9mm for CCW
Help me decide: Glock43 or Shield
Help me decide: IWB 3:00, IWB 5:00 or AIWB
Help me decide: What gun to add
Is my CCW allowed at the local Pumpkin Patch?
9mm Shield AIWB, your CCW is allowed 100% as long as you don't get caught. If I were you I would add GE M134, a bit hard to conceal but worth it for stopping power.


As for 3 state split, not going to happen. I would be in favor of east/west California. Or if its a 3 way split New California needs to go up to and include San Fransisco.

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As long as the new conservative CA has an amnesty period to allow us refugees from LA to escape to safety, I'm all for it.
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