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Look in the mail for your approval/registration letter.
Wow, they got ONE right out the 3 dozen I registered? Amazing government deficiency at work.
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Old 08-14-2018, 12:14 PM
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Why are they considering this pistol to have a second handgrip?

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Old 08-14-2018, 12:19 PM
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Why are they considering this pistol to have a second handgrip?

You can grip the shroud. Don't think too much about it. Their game, their rules.
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Old 08-14-2018, 12:20 PM
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You can grip the shroud. Don't think too much about it. Their game, their rules.


So by their definition they created a few thousand unregistered NFA items.
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Old 08-14-2018, 12:22 PM
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So by their definition they created a few thousand unregistered NFA items.
CA doesn't control the NFA. The most they could have done is create more unregistered CA AWs
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Old 08-14-2018, 12:32 PM
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All mine are saying they are being viewed and I cannot edit them. Any idea how long after they view them and reject them we can go in and edit?
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Pretty sure if you submit receiver barrel markings someone is going to get confused over there. At that point just do as they say.
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All mine are saying they are being viewed and I cannot edit them. Any idea how long after they view them and reject them we can go in and edit?
Usually just a few hours.
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Old 08-14-2018, 1:08 PM
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Why are they considering this pistol to have a second handgrip?

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Note that the checkbox does not say "vertical" nor "pistol" grip.

The barrel shroud is a place where you can grip the gun with a second hand, so it's a "second handgrip". So both boxes for "barrel shroud" and "second handgrip" should be checked.
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For those who are interested...

I submitted my CFARS registration on my five ARs on June 26.
Received email ,on Aug 1, stating that application was incomplete because I forgot to include a "feature".
Received letter of approval from DoJ today, Aug 13.
But, my "weapons" were approved and registered on the 7th.

I just checked CFARS website and, there, it still says "In Progress". hopefully, It'll update soon.
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For those who are interested...

I submitted my CFARS registration on my five ARs on June 26.
Received email ,on Aug 1, stating that application was incomplete because I forgot to include a "feature".
Received letter of approval from DoJ today, Aug 13.
But, my "weapons" were approved and registered on the 7th.

I just checked CFARS website and, there, it still says "In Progress". hopefully, It'll update soon.
Nobodys status has progressed passed 'In Progress'. I have some successful VolRegs from 2016 that are still 'In Progress'
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Old 08-14-2018, 2:38 PM
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For those who are interested...

I submitted my CFARS registration on my five ARs on June 26.
Received email ,on Aug 1, stating that application was incomplete because I forgot to include a "feature".
Received letter of approval from DoJ today, Aug 13
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But, my "weapons" were approved and registered on the 7th.

I just checked CFARS website and, there, it still says "In Progress". hopefully, It'll update soon.
Did you receive a follow-up confirmation of application processing email after updating the application record? Alternatively, did you just receive the mailed letter without a confirmation of application processing email? Or? I am trying to determine whether there is a process of sending a confirmation email after you updated the application record after receiving the notice of incomplete application email.

Nothing like trying to understand what is basically an opaque process. Soo frustrating.
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Old 08-14-2018, 3:09 PM
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Did you receive a follow-up confirmation of application processing email after updating the application record? Alternatively, did you just receive the mailed letter without a confirmation of application processing email? Or? I am trying to determine whether there is a process of sending a confirmation email after you updated the application record after receiving the notice of incomplete application email.

Nothing like trying to understand what is basically an opaque process. Soo frustrating.
After adding/updating the "feature" on the CFARS website, I instantly received an email for each "weapon" that I corrected (or, updated the feature that was missing.) I received a "Submission Confirmation Notice".

That was it.
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After adding/updating the "feature" on the CFARS website, I instantly received an email for each "weapon" that I corrected (or, updated the feature that was missing.) I received a "Submission Confirmation Notice".

That was it.
I just did about 20 submissions. Only got one Submission Confirmation Notice
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Did you receive a follow-up confirmation of application processing email after updating the application record? Alternatively, did you just receive the mailed letter without a confirmation of application processing email? Or? I am trying to determine whether there is a process of sending a confirmation email after you updated the application record after receiving the notice of incomplete application email.

Nothing like trying to understand what is basically an opaque process. Soo frustrating.
My first 3 incompletes on two different registrations I corrected on three different days and I received the application accepted email at 1, 2, and 3 days for these.

My most recent two incompletes that I resubmitted I am well into my fourth week.

From reading the posts here it seems they have really slowed down on the incomplete resubmissions. I suspect (guessing) that before the same guy or gender neutral/non binary sex person got in his que that it was updated and to then go back immediately and review to get the application accepted and the registration moving.

I am thinking another big boss efficiency change (government likes doing that because how else do the bosses prove they are bossing since they can't prove it by making the company more money) was to have these incompletes be sent back to the end of the line like it was a new application. If so I consider this to be stupidity and utter nonsense. The guy that initially reviewed it is not going to look over the entire thing again but just what he asked to be changed. A different reviewer, or even the same reviewer a month later, will have no idea and like all of us will be confused about the incomplete and what is being asked for so he will review it again entirely and find NEW things to set it to incomplete again.
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My first 3 incompletes on two different registrations I corrected on three different days and I received the application accepted email at 1, 2, and 3 days for these.

My most recent two incompletes that I resubmitted I am well into my fourth week.

From reading the posts here it seems they have really slowed down on the incomplete resubmissions. I suspect (guessing) that before the same guy or gender neutral/non binary sex person got in his que that it was updated and to then go back immediately and review to get the application accepted and the registration moving.

I am thinking another big boss efficiency change (government likes doing that because how else do the bosses prove they are bossing since they can't prove it by making the company more money) was to have these incompletes be sent back to the end of the line like it was a new application. If so I consider this to be stupidity and utter nonsense. The guy that initially reviewed it is not going to look over the entire thing again but just what he asked to be changed. A different reviewer, or even the same reviewer a month later, will have no idea and like all of us will be confused about the incomplete and what is being asked for so he will review it again entirely and find NEW things to set it to incomplete again.
Or, they have scaled back the staff that are doing the application approvals. Smaller number of staff processing applications = longer time to process approvals/rejections for a given number of applications.
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Old 08-14-2018, 9:50 PM
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I just did about 20 submissions. Only got one Submission Confirmation Notice
I got one for each of my six corrections.
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Just an update in time line for those that have been waiting. The apps for the wife (co-registered) went in on 10 March and we just received the confirmation Email today. Now we wait another 6-10 weeks and see if she gets a letter.
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Guys, I'm totally locked out of CFARS.

I need to reset my password because my previous one expired.

When I go to the link to request a password change, it says to check my email for the password change link.

By the time I get that e-mail and go to the link within, it says "token has expired". The e-mail takes hours to get to my inbox (gmail).
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Hooray, DOJ finally added 82 new manufacturers to their list today! If you were waiting for them to add any of the following, then use "Report an issue" to ask them to open your app so you can select the manufacturer and finally get your app finalized.

BELARUS
AMERICAN FIGHTER ARMS
ANKARA
AMERICAN VINTAGE GUNS AND PAWN(GUN POINT)
BATTLE BORN TACTICS LLC
BLACK CREEK PRECISION LLC
SOLOMON ISLANDS
COBALT KINETICS WILSON PRECISION ARMS
LIVE FREE ARMORY CENTRAL FLORIDA FIREARMS
CONTINSOWLA
CZ USA
DEFINITIVE ARMS LLC
DJ GETZ FIREARMS COMPANY
DEFENSE RESEARCH & DEVELOPMENT DBA DRD
DEER COUNTRY ARCHERY RED X ARMS
GO BALLISTIC FIREARMS
GWACS ARMORY LLC
INVESTMENT GRADE FIREARMS
JARD INC
KNOBLE
LINYI JUNXING CHEETAH
MERIDIAN DEFENSE CORPORATION
MILLER PRECISION ARMS
MAHELY
M & M INDUSTRIES
NETHERLANDS ANTILLES
POLYMER80
PRECISION REFLEX INC AKA PRI
POWER SHOT LLC
RHINO ARMS
RUNNER RUNNER GUNS
RASHEED RASHID
RIFLE SUPPLY
SPAIN
SUREFIRE LLC
TRIARC SYSTEMS LLC
TPM OUTFITTERS
US FIREARMS ACDMY (RENO GUNS)
VM HY TEC
VELLA INDUSTRIES-ENTERPRISE
V7 WEAPON SYSTEMS
ST VINCENT AND THE GRENADINES
WORKING MANS ARMORY LLC
ZIJIANG MACHINERY COMPANY
WISCONSIN TACTICAL LLC
VILLAGE GOLDSMITH INC
WEAPONCRAFT LLC
COACHELLA VALLEY GUNS & TACKLE
FOSTECH MFG LLC
HONEY BADGER FIREARMS
SPECIALIZED DYNAMICS LLC
MGI MG INDUSTRIES INC
KAISER SHOOTING PRODUCTS LLC
FEDARM (FEDERAL ARMAMENT) LLC
MEDUSA FIREARMS
WORLDWIDE FIREARMS MANUFACTURING INC
AMERICAN SHOOTING CENTER (ASC) INC
SELECT FIRE GROUP (AMMO DOGS)
TIM LA FRANCE
HILL & MAC GUNWORKS LLC
TURNER FABRICATIONS LLC
AR15 COM
P-TAC (PRACTICAL TACTICAL AR PARTS LLC)
NEWTOWN FIREARMS
LEAD STAR ARMS LLC
RECREATOR BLANKS
PATTERSON MACHINE
SHARPS BROS MFG
CRITICAL CAPABILITIES LLC
ASCEND ARMORY
JL BILLET LLC
INTEGRATED ARMAMENT SYSTEMS (IJ BLUM)
APPLIED KINETICS LLC
US MACHINE GUN ARMORY LLC
DEZ ARMS INC
MAJOR METALS INC (M1 MACHINING)
CODE RED FIREARMS
CASON ENGINEERING INC
BLACKSHEEP6 TACTICAL LLC
ERATHR3 LLC
BERGARA USA (BP FIREARMS CO)
GUN BOSS ARMORY
NORTH COUNTY FIREARMS (NCSC INC)


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Guys, I'm totally locked out of CFARS.

I need to reset my password because my previous one expired.

When I go to the link to request a password change, it says to check my email for the password change link.

By the time I get that e-mail and go to the link within, it says "token has expired". The e-mail takes hours to get to my inbox (gmail).
Try again at a different time of day when their system might be less busy, like midnight or something. Then hopefully you'll get the email faster. I didn't realize the password reset tokens expired so quickly, that's kind of ridiculous that they don't even give you a few hours to respond.
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Hooray, DOJ finally added 82 new manufacturers to their list today! If you were waiting for them to add any of the following, then use "Report an issue" to ask them to open your app so you can select the manufacturer and finally get your app finalized.

...
TURNER FABRICATIONS LLC
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Thaaanks! I will do that! I think my MP5 registration has been holding me up.
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I got a letter today! Yay! Kinda strange formatting though. All my submissions were individually separate but this single letter had a whopping 21 entries on it. It was mostly FMBUS entries but there were 3 non FMBUS entries. Here's the breakdown:

18x FMBUS rifles and pistols
2x Regular store bought rifles...that I already had letters for!
1x Regular store bought rifle that I did not have a previous letter for

As for the FMBUS entries the timeline is this:

June 26-29 : AWReg
July 13-20 : Submission Confirmation/Incomplete emails received and responded
Aug 16 : Letter in hand (effective date printed on letter was July 26)

So 20 days from entry into the system to letter in hand. And about 7 weeks from AWReg to letter in hand.

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