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Old 06-19-2017, 12:19 AM
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Default GTFW Bag....

Maybe there's already a name for this? But for now, I'm calling it my "Going To F***ng War" bag.

To clarify - I'm not in the services, I don't pretend to be in the services, I have no intention of "going" to war, but I strongly feel that it is the duty of all law-abiding gun owners in this great nation to prepare, on some level, to fight to keep it. So I'm interested to hear what all you guys might have (or plan to have someday) in a quick-access pack if, say, you hear on the radio that troops have been dropped in our homeland. Obviously, omit anything you wish not to be public knowledge.

The concept is different from a BOB or GOOD (Bug out / Get Out of Dodge) bag, in that it primarily focuses on combat.

Here's my basic bag, which I may go into greater detail on later if this thread catches on.

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-AR rifle w/ both long-range & CQB sights (For me, has a LAW tactical folding stock for backpack carry, ACOG + RMR sight)
-At least 200rds of 5.56 in magazines
-Basic medi-kid w/ trauma gear
-Tool kit (everything from screwdrivers, to a dremel, to bolt cutters, gun cleaning/repair tools)
-Water (Camelbak-type pouch, + lifestraw)
-Food (some high-calorie/low-weight/long-shelf-life type stuff)
-LOTS of AA batteries
-Solar battery chargers

On myself:
-Beretta 92 w/ 4 Mecgar magazines, Underwood Extreme Defender rounds
-Phone
-2-way FRS/GMRS radios

Thinking about adding body armor to the kit, but haven't yet.

Again, this thread is not to imply that anyone is playing GI Joe - rather, to open a dialogue amongst the "average joe" who wants to be as prepared as possible for the worst - an enemy attack on homeland soil. I think we can all agree that it's not a bad idea to be prepared for the worst. So, what all do you guys recommend?
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A quick question.
How will you fill the Camelback with a Lifestraw?
Might want to add a small pump filter too.

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A quick question.
How will you fill the Camelback with a Lifestraw?
Might want to add a small pump filter too.

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It was meant to be one-in-addition-to-the-other, not necessarily a combined tool. But you've got an excellent point that once the reservoir runs dry, I may not want to rely solely on the lifestraw, I'll take a look at filter options! Thanks!

IMO, a GTFW bag would be somewhat along the lines of a 48-hour bag, with an emphasis on combat tools
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I'm a truck driver. I find myself 1,500 miles from home every week.
My bag(s)/preps are geared towards getting home under "less than ideal" conditions.

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IMHO, ditch the AA's unless you get lithium primaries.
They'll leak all over your stuff if stored for a long time.
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Just as a recommendation, I use Energizer Ultimate Lithium in regards to AA. Surefire for CR123.
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Sounds like my VCL (Vehicle Carry Layer) but missing a few things.

My layers are:

EDC-OBL (On Body Layer)
EDC-NB (Near Body Layer) Pack or brief case
OGL (Office Gear Layer)
VHL (Vehicle Carry Layer)
SL (Stash Layer) Only I know where
HML (Home Layer)

Each Layer is setup to defend, supply and get me to the next and final layer

And if you don't think that between Terrorism (Home-Grown and Imported), the likes of Back Lives Matter and the other Stink (MS13 and alike) that flows across our Borders that we aren't at War, you are sadly wrong.
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Again, this thread is not to imply that anyone is playing GI Joe
How about "Wolverine"?

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I would like to point out that you have to carry all that stuff. If in fact you do need your bag, chances are the roads will be plugged and impassible.
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How about "Wolverine"?

I am glad that kid on the right is pointing his rifle at his comrade with a finger on the trigger. I don't trust the shady look on that kid in the front
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You should look into the dolos takedown kit. Allows you to remove the barrel assembly for either swapping calibers/barrel lengths or making it breakdown even more compact.
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I'm a truck driver. I find myself 1,500 miles from home every week.
My bag(s)/preps are geared towards getting home under "less than ideal" conditions.

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Serious question: why wouldn't you just drag all your chit onto your roof, fire up the grill, and hang out up there? Because if you're being forced out of your home, doesn't it just fall under the old BOB category?
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Maybe there's already a name for this? But for now, I'm calling it my "Going To F***ng War" bag.

To clarify - I'm not in the services, I don't pretend to be in the services, I have no intention of "going" to war, but I strongly feel that it is the duty of all law-abiding gun owners in this great nation to prepare, on some level, to fight to keep it. So I'm interested to hear what all you guys might have (or plan to have someday) in a quick-access pack if, say, you hear on the radio that troops have been dropped in our homeland. Obviously, omit anything you wish not to be public knowledge.

The concept is different from a BOB or GOOD (Bug out / Get Out of Dodge) bag, in that it primarily focuses on combat.

Here's my basic bag, which I may go into greater detail on later if this thread catches on.

Pack:
-AR rifle w/ both long-range & CQB sights (For me, has a LAW tactical folding stock for backpack carry, ACOG + RMR sight)
-At least 200rds of 5.56 in magazines
-Basic medi-kid w/ trauma gear
-Tool kit (everything from screwdrivers, to a dremel, to bolt cutters, gun cleaning/repair tools)
-Water (Camelbak-type pouch, + lifestraw)
-Food (some high-calorie/low-weight/long-shelf-life type stuff)
-LOTS of AA batteries
-Solar battery chargers

On myself:
-Beretta 92 w/ 4 Mecgar magazines, Underwood Extreme Defender rounds
-Phone
-2-way FRS/GMRS radios

Thinking about adding body armor to the kit, but haven't yet.

Again, this thread is not to imply that anyone is playing GI Joe - rather, to open a dialogue amongst the "average joe" who wants to be as prepared as possible for the worst - an enemy attack on homeland soil. I think we can all agree that it's not a bad idea to be prepared for the worst. So, what all do you guys recommend?
What no plate carrier with 3a hard plates???
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Good read CaG. But, the 10 rounders are killing my imagination​!! Lol.
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Foreign troops will never be 'dropped in our homeland'. This thread is twaddle.
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Foreign troops will never be 'dropped in our homeland'. This thread is twaddle.
I agree it's very unlikely, but can't it be argued that a well-prepared populace is part of the reason for that?

There's an old quote that often gets mentioned here (which it turns out was either mis-attributed or never said at all, but the point holds true), claimed to have been said by Japanese commander Isoroku Yamamoto:

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You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.
Whether it was said or not, you can't deny that a well prepared citizenry would make a mainland invasion a suicide mission, and I think it's never a good idea to let down our guard completely for that very reason.
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... you can't deny that a well prepared citizenry would make a mainland invasion a suicide mission, and I think it's never a good idea to let down our guard completely for that very reason.
We've got a lot of things which are a far greater deterrent than an armed citizenry. 2 major oceans and a huge land mass without even bringing up the fact that we have a massive amount of armed forces and the best tuned infrastructure in the world supporting it. An invasion of the scale you are talking about would make D-day look like a floaty in a swimming pool. It just wouldn't happen. We'd be nuked off the map well before an invasion and at that point why would anyone want to invade a radioactive wasteland?

You are better off preparing yourself for problems which might actually occur.
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Foreign troops will never be 'dropped in our homeland'. This thread is twaddle.
Lets play some late-night hypothetical teotwawki and indulge in some conspiracy theories.

Russia never ended the cold war, as of 2017 there are more Russian agents in the US than ever before. They have bought off politicians and community organizers at all levels in the California govt. Those who haven't been bought off are zealots indoctrinated by mainstream media to agree with the democrat party's feel-good platform. Pop culture glorifies promiscuous women being the leaders and men as stupid and weak. Memes about eating *** are astroturfed into popularity and the KGB have a good laugh about getting a generation of American kids to lick buttholes. They pass laws criminalizing every aspect of being an alpha male and every year and destroy the pillar of society, the family structure, by incentivising divorce and making children too expensive to raise properly. Some of us will blissfully ignore the fact that the second most powerful country in the world threatened to "bury" us and believe what they see on TV, we think we got to this point in society on our own.

The Russians have been pushing an agenda of disarmament for decades. AR-15's and standard capacity mags are neutered or gone, and most trained pro-gun folks have abandoned the state. California is weak and ripe for the taking.

The US starts a ground war with North Korea, China comes to their aid. Iran sees this as an opportunity to attack Iraq and/or Saudi Arabia, threatening the US's oil supply, we are forced to respond. Prices of oil and other commodities skyrocket, with runaway inflation comes political instability in our nation, already divided across right and left. There are riots and groups organized to threaten our government structure. While our military is tied up on 2 fronts, Russia strikes at our weak underbelly and invades California. Half the state is so poor they welcome the invaders, others resist but are quickly overrun by the massive red army. The Navy can't get ships back in time and the coast guard are no match, Californians only have a few hours notice and instantly riots break out, grocery stores and gas stations are robbed bare, and accidents block all major roads.



I should write fiction more often 😊


My go to war bag is mostly water and cash, protein bars and I might take a pistol I'm familiar with, because I can stash it all on my motorcycle as I GTFO of CA and join up with a militia in a free state, where there are enough pro 2A folks to actually fight back.
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I should write fiction more often 😊
Where was the fiction?
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Never thought of a gtfw bag but I use a go bag. Militiaman bag? Whatever...

My go bag is:
Loaded mags/water/tourniquets/Kerlix/abdominal5x9's/cravats/diaper pins/BFUV5R radio loaded in a small rescue bag. Not backpack. Weighs under 15lbs.

I'm a minimalist anyway.
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Nice another Bert Gummer thread. Always entertaining. You must look at your guns pretty often cause that usually sparks the imagination


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Nice another Bert Gummer thread. Always entertaining. You must look at your guns pretty often cause that usually sparks the imagination
Looking at my guns plus a couple of bloody mary's after a long weekend usually does the trick.

Though I must say, this is one of my prouder drunk threads, I think I'll keep this one
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Definitely use a made in USA cr123, they have correct circuit and over voltage protection.
There's only one manufacturer in the USA, Panasonic. All USA made batteries are rebranded. Surefire, Streamlight, Battery Station, all the same.

Nice to know. Thanks for that.
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LOL.. point taken

It was meant to be one-in-addition-to-the-other, not necessarily a combined tool. But you've got an excellent point that once the reservoir runs dry, I may not want to rely solely on the lifestraw, I'll take a look at filter options! Thanks!

IMO, a GTFW bag would be somewhat along the lines of a 48-hour bag, with an emphasis on combat tools
I like the sawyer mini over the lifestraw.

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I would also agree with Feuer and get a UV5R over the FRS/GMRS radio.

Also, what about a small pair of binos?

How about a military chemlight holder?
https://www.amazon.com/Cyalume-Milit.../dp/B00CJI6T4M

Rite in the rain notepad and waterproof pen
http://www.likecool.com/Gear/Tools/R...notebook-1.jpg

EMT Shears and CAT
http://milspecmonkey.com/tactical/ms...h-plus-004.jpg

I would also add a large and small fixed blade knife as well as a pocket folder.

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How about "Wolverine"?

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They don't need to be dropped in. They can just walk in from the southern border.
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Maybe there's already a name for this? But for now, I'm calling it my "Going To F***ng War" bag.

To clarify - I'm not in the services, I don't pretend to be in the services, I have no intention of "going" to war, but I strongly feel that it is the duty of all law-abiding gun owners in this great nation to prepare, on some level, to fight to keep it. So I'm interested to hear what all you guys might have (or plan to have someday) in a quick-access pack if, say, you hear on the radio that troops have been dropped in our homeland. Obviously, omit anything you wish not to be public knowledge.

The concept is different from a BOB or GOOD (Bug out / Get Out of Dodge) bag, in that it primarily focuses on combat.

Here's my basic bag, which I may go into greater detail on later if this thread catches on.

Pack:
-AR rifle w/ both long-range & CQB sights (For me, has a LAW tactical folding stock for backpack carry, ACOG + RMR sight)
-At least 200rds2,000 of 5.56 in magazines
-Basic medi-kid w/ trauma gear
-Tool kit (everything from screwdrivers, to a dremel, to bolt cutters, gun cleaning/repair tools)
-Water (Camelbak-type pouch, + lifestraw)
-Food (some high-calorie/low-weight/long-shelf-life type stuff)
-LOTS of AA batteries
-Solar battery chargers

On myself:
-Beretta 92 w/ 4 12 Mecgar magazines, Underwood Extreme Defender rounds Any decent, reliable HP ammo
-Phone Preferably one with removable battery
-2-way FRS/GMRS radios Who will have the other radio?

Thinking about adding body armor to the kit, but haven't yet. Buy it ASAP and familiarize yourself with moving and shooting while wearing it

Again, this thread is not to imply that anyone is playing GI Joe - rather, to open a dialogue amongst the "average joe" who wants to be as prepared as possible for the worst - an enemy attack on homeland soil. I think we can all agree that it's not a bad idea to be prepared for the worst. So, what all do you guys recommend?
See Above. Just my .02
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Who said they need to come across the southern border? They have a standing invite from more that half of the voting populous here.
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They don't need to be dropped in. They can just walk in from the southern border.
And get a ride to the nearest 'process and release' center. The threat is real and is being greatly underestimated.
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Old 06-24-2017, 10:11 AM
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Foreign troops will never be 'dropped in our homeland'. This thread is twaddle.
Who said they need to be foreign troops?

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Old 06-24-2017, 10:48 AM
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I plan for the scenario based on past history and informed studies...earthquake.

Saying that, simply because it was fun and gave me something to do. We have equipment racks with two 72 Hour Hygiene packs (everything needed for being stuck away from home and non SHTF). Two Armament bags (ammo preselected for MBR and Packup sidearm, ), one BOB, two Walk out backpack (standard camping gear, water purifier, tents, sleeping bag.

This all can be used in different combinations based on what happens.

And I actually plan to bug in for most scenarios this was just "because"
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Old 06-24-2017, 1:17 PM
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Having a wife and two young children now, it is unrealistic for me to plan on leaving them behind to "go to war" in the scenario you described. However, for the immediate protection of my family and home and the nearby surrounding area, I have put together a battle belt very similar to the one pictured below but with a few more M4 pouches. I pair the belt with a hydration pack and call it good. Minimal? Yes. But I can actually train to fight with this setup much easier and more often (and more effectively) than I can with a heavy hulking backpack full of supplies. And training is everything. Plus, like I said, I am not ditching my family nor my little slice of America.

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Old 06-24-2017, 2:15 PM
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Here's my AR-15 that I usually train with that I built using a Colt LE6945CK upper (I live in a free state now that allows SBR) on a Noveske lower. As my main battle rifle, I wanted to keep it light and nimble. Not sure if I truly accomplished that, however, it is lighter and faster than all my other AR's. Some upgrades include:

Aimpoint PRO optic

Noveske KX5 flash suppressor

Crimson Trace CMR-206 green laser sight

Surefire 6PX Defender light on a Vltor mount

Gear Sector short vertical grip

TangoDown pistol grip

Vltor IMOD stock

Viking Tactics padded 2-point sling (not pictured)





If the Russians/Chinese/North Koreans/Antifa/EBT hordes ever do invade my street, that is the rifle they will see the business end of before taking me out.
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