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Old 09-18-2021, 5:03 AM
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“If you get vaccinated in multiple years, you are more likely to get severe disease, you are more likely to get viral replication, and you are more likely to be hospitalized…. With the Delta variant– when you are vaccinated …. the antibodies take the virus and help it infect the cells.”

This is ADE, and this is probably why hospitalizations and deaths are rising among the vaccinated in Israel, UK and the rest. True, the Delta variant is less lethal than the Wuhan virus but, unfortunately, that rule does not apply to those who have been vaccinated and whose antibodies promote the uptake of the virus into their cells. This increases the viral replication function that increases the severity of the disease. In short, people are getting sicker because they were vaccinated.
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At this point, I'm thinking these people get what they deserve.
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At this point, I'm thinking these people get what they deserve.

I would agree with this for both sides of this argument. Reality is some people are going to die from the vaccine and some people are going to die from covid. Time for the government to get out of the way and let people make there own decisions. Unfortunately it doesn’t seem like this will happen with the Potato in charge.


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I would agree with this for both sides of this argument. Reality is some people are going to die from the vaccine and some people are going to die from covid. Time for the government to get out of the way and let people make there own decisions. Unfortunately it doesn’t seem like this will happen with the Potato in charge.

That time is always. And I agree, put the vax and the facts and some real stats on the table and let people make their own choice.
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At this point, I'm thinking these people get what they deserve.
People who were lied to by thier doctors and own government deserve to get very sick or die? What about the majority of people who only took these shots due to threat of loosing thier job, medical insurance, home, ability to support a family?

The only people who deserve ANYTHING bad that comes to them are the ones who orchestrated and pushed this atrocity on health, life and freedom.
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Other postings here suggested FDA now recognizes it's not as safe as thought. Or did they only hear public comments abou it without admitting anything themselves?
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That time is always. And I agree, put the vax and the facts and some real stats on the table and let people make their own choice.
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Covid 19 started as a political weapon and remains a political weapon.
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PJ Media also has a great commentary on the same topic

https://pjmedia.com/columns/david-so...viral-n1479646

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It is now becoming increasingly evident that the CFR (case fatality rate), used to justify the draconian response of our governments and medical consortium to the disease, was nothing more than a fabrication. We know that the effects of comorbidities and all manner of accidental phenomena were bundled into the official audit to dramatically raise the count. Recent studies reveal that COVID death counts and hospitalization rates were inflated by a “factor of two.” In effect, false attributions abounded. Sucharit Bhakdi, formerly director of the microbiology faculty at the University of Mainz, shows how the game was rigged. The “factor of two,” incidentally, may have been a low estimate. I was informed by a senior nurse in a position of responsibility that the ratio was more likely a factor of ten.
Translation: This is a hoax.

Are there bodies in the streets? Are there mass graves? Are hospitals actually overwhelmed?
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Other postings here suggested FDA now recognizes it's not as safe as thought. Or did they only hear public comments abou it without admitting anything themselves?
Saw this yesterday.
Highlights-Dr. Jessica Rose gave a presentation at the vax hearing. She is a viral immunologist and computational biologist.
1000% increase in vax adverse events for 2021 (and 2021 is not over). This is highly anomalous.
Vax risks outweigh any potential benefits.
One in 660 individuals report an adverse event from Covid vax.
Data from Israel beg the question as to whether the vaccines are driving the emergence of new variants.

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People who were lied to by thier doctors and own government deserve to get very sick or die? What about the majority of people who only took these shots due to threat of loosing thier job, medical insurance, home, ability to support a family?

The only people who deserve ANYTHING bad that comes to them are the ones who orchestrated and pushed this atrocity on health, life and freedom.
Right? What about all of us military members who are being forced to take this vaccine or else face punitive UCMJ action?
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And this is by design. Exactly what Fauci paid for. Pure evil.
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That time is always. And I agree, put the vax and the facts and some real stats on the table and let people make their own choice.
They'll never use real stats... no one would ever trust a thing they say again if they did that.
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People who were lied to by thier doctors and own government deserve to get very sick or die? What about the majority of people who only took these shots due to threat of loosing thier job, medical insurance, home, ability to support a family?

The only people who deserve ANYTHING bad that comes to them are the ones who orchestrated and pushed this atrocity on health, life and freedom.
I would also include the brainwashed who openly hoped for the un-vaxxed to die or lose their jobs and participate in society. They can burn in hell for all I care...
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I would also include the brainwashed who openly hoped for the un-vaxxed to die or lose their jobs and participate in society. They can burn in hell for all I care...
I agree.
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Covid 19 started as a political weapon and remains a political weapon.
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Pureblood is the new thing huh?...

While it seems gimmicky - it actually represents my position pretty well...

I wish it wasn't trending, I'd be more inclined to use it

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That time is always. And I agree, put the vax and the facts and some real stats on the table and let people make their own choice.

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Right? What about all of us military members who are being forced to take this vaccine or else face punitive UCMJ action?
First, thank you for your service, truly. Second, be grateful you didn't serve under George Washington, who ordered the Revolutionary Army to be vaccinated against smallpox, using an experimental procedure that had a 5-10% fatality rate.

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First, thank you for your service, truly. Second, be grateful you didn't serve under George Washington, who ordered the Revolutionary Army to be vaccinated against smallpox, using an experimental procedure that had a 5-10% fatality rate.

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People who were lied to by thier doctors and own government deserve to get very sick or die? What about the majority of people who only took these shots due to threat of loosing thier job, medical insurance, home, ability to support a family?

The only people who deserve ANYTHING bad that comes to them are the ones who orchestrated and pushed this atrocity on health, life and freedom.
Well unfortunately, this will be a hard lesson for some in personal responsibility. At this point, 9 months later, there's enough information out there to make anyone think twice. I'm realizing that many of these people are the type of people who would rather be led by the nose than take responsibility for their own lives. When they finally understand that made a grave mistake, they will blame others. Can't live your life in this manner and expect things to come out well.

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The only people who deserve ANYTHING bad that comes to them are the ones who orchestrated and pushed this atrocity on health, life and freedom.
People who, by coincidence, are not required to get vaccinated.
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I would agree with this for both sides of this argument. Reality is some people are going to die from the vaccine and some people are going to die from covid. Time for the government to get out of the way and let people make there own decisions. Unfortunately it doesn’t seem like this will happen with the Potato in charge.


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It may not be the "BIGGEST" medical disaster, because there have been some doozies over the centuries, only time will tell. This IS concerning, however.

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