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Old 05-30-2018, 12:25 PM
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A few years back I bought a used Savage in .22 magnum. The next week I bought a CZ 455 in .17 HMR. I shot the Savage once and it's been sitting in the safe ever since.

As I contemplate moving to Idaho next year I am trying to think if the Savage would have any viable use to me other than owning it. What role would it fill in between my plethora of .22 LR's and the .17 HMR? Would I be better off dumping it? I have nothing against the cartridge or the rifle just musing about why I have it.
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trust me when you get rid of it you will probably regret it later on. If you do not need the money you are never going to be able to buy it as cheaply as you did way back when. the boys up in Idaho will give you more for it since it would make a quicker and cleaner small game kill than a .177 in my opinion and assuming you hunt. but the choice is yours. I have 1950's and 1960's 22 rifles and a couple in magnum and their biggest sin is they take up a little space. do what is best for you.
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If you have more than one .22 Magnum riffle then sell it, if you have only one .22 Magnum then keep it.
Heck , I contradict to myself, tell you to do thing that I would not do for myself, I had whole punch of .22LR, 9mil, .45ACP but I never sell any of them. Keep telling myself I will sell some when my safe is full, when my safe was full I bought another safe
So if you still have room in the safe then keep it.

(Notes, for the last 10 years, I did not touch my 44 Mag, 357 Mag, 308 riffle).

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Naw, you won't need it. Send it to me.
Just kidding here! I'd keep it. .22 mag ammo may be a bit cheaper in Idaho, and you have more chances to use up there. Plenty of shooting opportunities in Idaho.
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I gave my father in law my only .22 mag rifle, he needed something for pest on his ranch. I’ve missed it ever since, thinking of buying a Ruger American to replace it.
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Keep it and get a Single Six or Single Nine to go with it.
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Keep it and get a Single Six or Single Nine to go with it.
Well with this response and all the others I guess I will keep it. I do have a single six with the mag cylinder (that I forgot all about).

I guess if nothing else I could learn to use a different cartridge for a new application or for the same application but learn how to use it.

I don't know what type of smallish critters I will run into that a .22 lr might not be enough but .22 mag might be the perfect poison over the .17.

Come to think of it. Maybe I need to do a little more digging on what the .22 mag is capable of.

The place I'm buying is 2 minutes from forest land and is pretty rural (Athol, ID a sneeze and a fart away from the wilderness). Up close coyotes come to mind considering I will be working in my shop late at night.
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I had matching rifles in 17HMR and 22WMR. They were both fun to shoot, but for MY purposes, the 17 could do everything the 22 could, but the 22 couldn't do what I wanted out of the 17...and ammo prices were better for 17, and lead free 17 shoots much better (and is easier to get) than 22mag.

So I sold the 22 mag for exactly what I bought it for, which freed up another scope for a different rifle.

I like the 17 better than the 22mag for just about everything, but I do still have a NAA .22Mag/lr, so I kept some of my ammo.
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If you were a Commiefornia lifer, I would say sell. It is too expensive to just plink with and rimfire lead free sucks for hunting. But, since you are possibly escaping, I say keep it and enjoy blasting small critters when you get to ID.
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A few years back I bought a used Savage in .22 magnum. The next week I bought a CZ 455 in .17 HMR. I shot the Savage once and it's been sitting in the safe ever since.

As I contemplate moving to Idaho next year I am trying to think if the Savage would have any viable use to me other than owning it. What role would it fill in between my plethora of .22 LR's and the .17 HMR? Would I be better off dumping it? I have nothing against the cartridge or the rifle just musing about why I have it.

The 22 magnum was a good idea when it first came out, but I don't see much use for it now. Anything you can do with a 22 mag can be done with something else for less money. The last time I looked 22 mag ammo cost more per round than 223 ammo.



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Moving to Idaho and boonie close.
Save that 22mag for trade bait. If you don't already have a good chain saw you can get one for it.

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Others will disagree, I am sure, but I like the .22 mag for larger varmints better than the .17 HMR. For coyotes around the homestead, I'd prefer the .22 Mag. It does not have as flat a trajectory as the .17 but does have a bigger bullet. The 30-34 gr bullet versions of the .22 mag are faster than the 40 gr loads or the 50 gr Federal load.

I shoot quite a few .17 HMR rounds at prairie dogs and ground squirrels, though.
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Dump it. You can get the 20 grn rounds that are tougher and will still do a better job than any 22wmr. The only reason the 22wmr came back from the dead was because of the introduction of the 17 hmr.
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I would dump it. 22LR already has many ammo options ranging from subsonic to CCI Stingers.
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Well with this response and all the others I guess I will keep it. I do have a single six with the mag cylinder (that I forgot all about).

I guess if nothing else I could learn to use a different cartridge for a new application or for the same application but learn how to use it.

I don't know what type of smallish critters I will run into that a .22 lr might not be enough but .22 mag might be the perfect poison over the .17.

Come to think of it. Maybe I need to do a little more digging on what the .22 mag is capable of.

The place I'm buying is 2 minutes from forest land and is pretty rural (Athol, ID a sneeze and a fart away from the wilderness). Up close coyotes come to mind considering I will be working in my shop late at night.
The right choice. I've got my .22WMR Ruger American Rimfire paired with a Heritage Rough Rider in the same caliber - a nice combo.
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The first thing that come to my mind is that .22 Mag armmo is 6 times more expensive than .22 LR.

I really like .22 Magnum guns, think they're fun to shoot but not 6 times more fun than .22LR.
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The first thing that come to my mind is that .22 Mag armmo is 6 times more expensive than .22 LR.

I really like .22 Magnum guns, think they're fun to shoot but not 6 times more fun than .22LR.
You can't look at it that way; if that were universally true, you wouldn't have a 9mm, 5.56, .308, or anything else more expensive.

That said, that was my hesitation about a PMR30, but I think I'm going to get one anyway because 30 round pistol, fireballs every shot, and its a poor-man's Five Seven. .22lr recoil, with 9mm blast.

.22wmr is significantly more expensive than .22LR, however if its just for plinking there isn't a significant argument against it. Varmin hunting is only a more expensive 5.56, .17hmr, and other more expensive lesser used calibers. Fun is fun.
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The 22mag is 1st and foremost a "hunting round" , and if you do go to Id. , you will find a use for it , ammo will be cheaper there then here , I have both a Rifle and a Ruger single six , use the handgun with snake shot when fishing...22mag snake shot beats 22lr snake shot.

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They both are good calibers to have . I have 17hmr in rifle and 22wmr in pistol . thats why both are staying . but I see you have 2 in rifle .. That's a tough call . are you hunting small games with it ? Or just target shooting . 17hmr seems be slight cheaper
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When I went shooting with my buddy in Texas (RIP), I was surprised that his most used "critter" rifles were in 22 Mag---a slide-action Rossi and an older Winchester 9422 lever-gun---I immediately bonded with the 9422---it was light and handy and rode in his pick-up truck all the time... He shot nearly any critter, up to a mountain lion that wanted to eat his smaller dog with the 22 Mags...!
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They both are good calibers to have . I have 17hmr in rifle and 22wmr in pistol . thats why both are staying . but I see you have 2 in rifle .. That's a tough call . are you hunting small games with it ? Or just target shooting . 17hmr seems be slight cheaper
I use the .22 LR for hunting game and the .17 for dispatching varmint. This is precisely the conundrum that came up in my head. After I started this thread I had a friend tell me that he keeps a .22 mag for yotes. That intrigued me as I used a 12 ga with 000 buck. Where I live now I have to shoot them within 15 yards when they come up to the house for the old dogs and my cats, cant really be running around the field shooting at em since I live next to the highway. He lives on 50+ acres in wyoming. 50 - 75 yards is a common shot for them and the .22 mags does the job for them. Don't really know if a .17 would drop a yote or just wound the thing and have it suffer.
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In your situation, I would sight the .22 Mag in at 50-75 yards and use it for yotes and other vermin around the homestead. Then you have your .17 HMR for longer range, more specialized varmint shooting at longer ranges. The .22 mag offers significantly more punch at closer range due to the heavier bullet than the.17 and better bullets at higher velocity than a.22 LR. I have used all three for years and in my experience, this is the case. I love all 3 rounds but they have different strongpoints.
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22 mag is great for yokes as stated out to 150 yards or so. Since you already have it just use it. Just get a few boxes of ammo for it.
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Maybe others have, but personally, I have never ever regretted any gun purchase. I have, however, regretted selling/trading them.
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The August issue of Guns Magazine has an article by Dave Anderson on rimfire farm rifles. He has matching Ruger American Compacts in .22 LR, .17 HMR and .22 Mag. His pick for overall use on pests, etc is the .22 Mag. He prefers the heavier 40 or 50 gr bullet it shoots over both the LR and.17. He likes the .17 and has shot hundreds of prairie dogs and ground squirrels, but has used the .22 mag for one shot kills on raccoons, badgers and coyotes to 100 yards.
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Funny youre debating this, I was LOOKING for a CZ 452 FS in 22 mag. I'm never letting it go, I get bored with its precision. The wood has great tiger stripping, I just take it out the safe to look at often.
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I use a 22 mag for protecting my chickens. So far, one shot kills on 4 coyotes. I use hollow point Winchester’s in a CZ 452 lux.
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If your sure you're happy with the 17, then you probably don't need a 22 Magnum, unless there is a 17 ammo shortage in the future??
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The place I'm buying is 2 minutes from forest land and is pretty rural (Athol, ID a sneeze and a fart away from the wilderness). Up close coyotes come to mind considering I will be working in my shop late at night.
Hey neighbor - keep it. One of my favorite setups is my Ruger American compact in 22mag paired up with a Dead Air Mask 22 HD
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I would not sell a .22 mag if al I had was a 17hmr to replace it with.

.17 WSM, maybe

.17 Hornet, maybe

But a .17 HMR, no.

Just my personal preference.

But I would never sell a .22lr or .22 mag anyway, so .......
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A few years back I bought a used Savage in .22 magnum. The next week I bought a CZ 455 in .17 HMR. I shot the Savage once and it's been sitting in the safe ever since.

As I contemplate moving to Idaho next year I am trying to think if the Savage would have any viable use to me other than owning it. What role would it fill in between my plethora of .22 LR's and the .17 HMR? Would I be better off dumping it? I have nothing against the cartridge or the rifle just musing about why I have it.
No issues finding ammo up here, it's everywhere. My Dad buys for his 10/22M whenever he visits. That said I'm not a huge fan. I own .22lr only. Haven't yet gotten into .17 and don't see enough difference to buy one. I do have a few revolvers with replaceable cylinders and that's fun.
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Keep it. Good caliber for prairie dogs an similar varmits. You can reach out a little further with it.
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Apparently a great many people fail to understand that the .22 magnum's only commonality with .22 Long Rifle is the priming system and that's it. And even THAT is far more reliable on the magnum.

The .22 LR is a smaller caliber with soft bullets heel-crimped in place. It's cheap, and it's meant to be cheap. Even the "expensive" stuff is still "cheap" by comparison to the "cheapest" .22 magnum.

The .22 magnum is a true .224" caliber bullet seated inside the case making for a much superior construction, and sturdier cartridge. The rim is thicker and contains more priming compound, AND in case nobody has noticed, .22 magnums virtually never fail to fire - and before anyone replies with a ridiculous anecdote about the one their friend's mother's father's girlfriend's gunsmith owned, forget it. If a .22 magnum fails to fire, check the gun.

Anyway, the magnum fires real bullets, jacketed bullets of all types and purposes. From rifle barrels the .22 magnum will deliver around 350 fpe and has a demonstrated history of taking game animals all the way up to big. Even from a handgun, the .22 magnum with a decent length barrel is quite potent - way ahead of any hyper-velocity Long Rifle ammo.

Bascially, the .22 magnum is on the same quality of production level as centerfire ammo, and if 5.56 weren't available by the billions thanks to military contracts, it would NOT be less expensive.

I own plenty of .22's of both kinds but if I were going to grab one for survival it would be a .22 magnum or better, one with the ability to shoot both for obvious reasons, but NOT because there is any ballistic comparison between the two rounds.

I've got a Henry Mare's Leg in .22 magnum that's a hoot to shoot, holds 8+1 rounds, weighs close to nothing, has a 12" barrel and tiny stub-stock, but I can EASILY hit 6" plates at 100 yards with it, and with power. The gun is short enough to slip into a backpack and go without notice.
I'm would imagine "everybody" has a .22 magnum mini-revolver and truth be told, that's about all anyone "really" needs to carry for SD, and it will do the job.
I don't really care about "convertible" revolvers because their bore size is dedicated to the .22 magnum, which means the .22 LR is generally an also-ran. A .22 magnum from a long barrel revolver is very close to rifle speed which again, beats all the hypervelocity .22 LR's.

Now, I might get rid of the Savage because the rifle itself fails to stimulate my interest, but not because of the caliber. Maybe consider dumping the Savage bolt gun and replacing it with a Henry PUMP-action .22 magnum!
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If I learned anything in my seventy-three years on this planet............it's don't get rid of any guns!
Always seem to be sorry after I do!
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The 22 magnum round is ballistically pretty similar in performance to the 5.7 x 28 round.
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