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Old 05-12-2011, 2:20 PM
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Your internet is still your responsibility. Its your job to secure it and make sure no one else gets on. The whole "Its not my fault" thing doesn't fly when they have your name on the bill.
True to a degree, however many people whom are not technical at all just plug them in barely get them running open and yet they can buy it easily, and even those now who thought WEP was secure are flying open to anyone who can simply snort it out in a few minutes. Look how many WEP wifi's are out there right now? And those people thought they did something to secure it. What you want the government to regulate how you run your wifi at home now?

The industry recognizes there is a real problem out there now with home wifi.
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two words... peer blocker.

Also 'The Expendables' was easily the worst movie of the year.
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True to a degree, however many people whom are not technical at all just plug them in barely get them running open and yet they can buy it easily, and even those now who thought WEP was secure are flying open to anyone who can simply snort it out in a few minutes. Look how many WEP wifi's are out there right now? And those people thought they did something to secure it. What you want the government to regulate how you run your wifi at home now?

The industry recognizes there is a real problem out there now with home wifi.
sitting here right now my wifi can see 4 WEP's and 3 open networks ....


on a side note i am waiting on my beta testing package to arrive any day now to beta test out some new powerline networking
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I'm so glad I stopped doing this years ago. It's just not worth it anymore.
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The RIAA and MPAA are clearly racketeering at this point. At what point can we throw some people in jail under RICO. These goons are racketeering under the watch of the US government and legal system. What a joke.

It just goes to show what a farce Internet security and privacy are in this country. They're literally non-existent. You'll have to take your business to a nation that is non-friendly with the US to have any sort of privacy.
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they have to make some money off that horrible money some how.
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I actually bought the Blu-Ray. That's rare for me because I tend to boycott Stallone movies.
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two words... peer blocker.

Also 'The Expendables' was easily the worst movie of the year.
Wow. Haters gonna hate. I thought the movie was predictable but entertaining. I didn't expect some major plot twist or a treatise on morality. I expected a lot of gunfire, action, and explosions. This is what I got.
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two words... peer blocker.
You go ahead and keep thinking that is protecting you. The MPAA and RIAA have been contracting out to individuals, using home internet connections, to get lists of file sharers IP addresses.
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the only worth watching in that movie was the ducati.

how about just using newsgroups? download at peets? how about local pearl tea stores. LOL i woudln't do it at 'bux since they didn't quite make a big fuss on the open carry thing.
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isn't it possible to spoof an IP?

torrents are used for a wide verity of legitimate things.


lol@torrents. usenet or bust.
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isn't it possible to spoof an IP?
You're not going to do that with torrents, that is a lot of packet headers to forge.
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You're not going to do that with torrents, that is a lot of packet headers to forge.
but theoretically, possible, no?
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but theoretically, possible, no?
Possibly, but I wouldn't count on it working.
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Possibly, but I wouldn't count on it working.
possible beyond a reasonable doubt?

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Terrible movie.... I liked the A-Team much better out of that little tri-fecta of over the top action movies that all came out at the same time(losers,expendables, A-Team)
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Possibly, but I wouldn't count on it working.
don't think it would work. i got busted last time by comcast when i was d/l'ing ufc and i was using a proxy server for IP's already. dunno if comcast looked for the file name and key words on it, or was actually able to find my IP. i dunno if it would work if you start d/l somewhere else (different IP) and just continue at home. unsure if they only monitor the torrent file or the actual seeding/downloading of it.
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Your internet is still your responsibility. Its your job to secure it and make sure no one else gets on. ...
Exactly which orifice did you pull that from?
Never mind, I can smell it from here.
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Exactly which orifice did you pull that from?
Never mind, I can smell it from here.
I think he's confusing the reason for encrypted wireless connections. It's not primarily for keeping people from using your bandwidth, it's primarily for keeping people from getting access to the data you transmit & receive.
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I think the real unpleasantness was if the movie would have actually played.
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netflix 8$ a month. Whats the point to pirate when its basically dirt cheap to rent it over and over as you please.
i can see back in the day when a DVD was 25$ to own and renting one from aholes Blockbuster was 5$ a night but anymore you gotta be kidding. its next to pointless IMO.
Some peoples connections are not fast enough to stream content..

Seems the real money isn't about getting viewers these days, instead it is suing them.

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don't think it would work. i got busted last time by comcast when i was d/l'ing ufc and i was using a proxy server for IP's already. dunno if comcast looked for the file name and key words on it, or was actually able to find my IP. i dunno if it would work if you start d/l somewhere else (different IP) and just continue at home. unsure if they only monitor the torrent file or the actual seeding/downloading of it.
Enable forced encryption in your Bittorrent client. Comcast is known to look at what you're downloading.
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Enable forced encryption in your Bittorrent client. Comcast is known to look at what you're downloading.
That kind of encryption does not really work, it's really just enough to stop them from throttling your connection.
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That kind of encryption does not really work, it's really just enough to stop them from throttling your connection.
It masks what you're downloading too, you just have to make sure it is forced and you do not accept incoming legacy (unencrypted) connections.
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might try that. never know what people will end up complaining against. thanks for tip jday.
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Just an FYI: Encrypted BT doesn't stop throttling. I know this because we are throttling encrypted BT. As far as masking what you are downloading, that is also a misnomer.

For those of you who are unfamiliar with the DMCA reporting process, here's the simplest explanation of how a person is tagged for copyright violation.

1. DMCA reporting agent uses a p2p client. We will use BT as an example.
2. DMCA reporting agent pulls arbitrary torrent files from a BT tracker.
3. DMCA reporting agent begins to download copyrighted materials with the respective torrent files.
4. DMCA reporting agent obtains IPs and timestamps for all the 'seeders' seen (people who have the complete material and are actively sharing it).
5. DMCA contacts owners (ISP) of said IPs and gives infomation including timestamps, IP+port, copyrighted material info.

DMCA notices aren't going out for people who download copyrighted material. They are going out to people who 'share' copyrighted material. In the BT protocol, once you download the complete file, you become a 'seeder'. By becoming a seeder, you are 'sharing'. So in theory, by virtue of the being a seeder you had downloaded the work, but technically, you didn't get flagged for 'downloading'. But that's just semantics...

For those questioning this, I am very familiar with the DMCA process because I have to handle identification of users on our network when we receive DMCA notices.
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In the BT protocol, once you download the complete file, you become a 'seeder'. By becoming a seeder, you are 'sharing'.
If you have any part of what you are downloading over bittorrent, you are sharing. This is the entire concept behind torrents. It does not matter if you are a seed or not when it comes to these blanket John Doe lawsuits.
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Your internet is still your responsibility. Its your job to secure it and make sure no one else gets on. The whole "Its not my fault" thing doesn't fly when they have your name on the bill.
I guess that sorta makes sense if you're thinking of "your internet" like you think of "your gun". I.e. "if you leave your rifle out on your windowsill and it gets stolen and used to murder a puppy, it's partially your fault for not securing it".

Some of us like sharing our (bought and paid for) bandwidth with the neighbors. Some of us have lots of friends over from time to time and would prefer not to have to always give out passkeys. Some of us like the plausible deniability of having an open wireless network. Some of us just don't care.

Welcome to America. It's my internet connection, I'll do with it what I want. Welcome to America. If you want to sue me, you have to prove I actually did it, not merely that my name was on an internet bill that had an IP address that you think was used to pirate a movie.

Passing a law requiring all wireless networks to be secured is like that city in the northeast (forget which one) that's passing a "anyone who owns more than X guns has to have a safe with an alarm rigged to the police station and records with us as to what guns they own....". It's intrusive, unconstitutional, and wrong.
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I saw that movie in the theater. It was OK, but a lot of things were just stupid. Like that old fart stallone falling u love with maybe a 22 years old woman? U SНITTIN ME? Not worth watching 2nd time.

As for illegal downloads, well.... Walmart sells DVD's pretty cheap, maybe $10 or $20 for one that just came out. If you just want to see it once, netflix I guess?
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This is what you deserve when you try to watch a movie by the pro-Brady Campaign douchebag Stallone.
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Some of us like sharing our (bought and paid for) bandwidth with the neighbors. Some of us have lots of friends over from time to time and would prefer not to have to always give out passkeys. Some of us like the plausible deniability of having an open wireless network. Some of us just don't care.
And at least one judge has common sense.

http://www.globalregulatoryenforceme...identify-user/

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How can they prove its not your roommates. How can they prove someone did not hack your network. Its completely legal to download something you could of bought, cause you can make a back up.

Like someone missed a show last night they download it. That's legal cause it is no different then recording it in tvo. Now uploading the movie is illegal. You rarly see downloaders get in trouble, notices and letters go out but early make it to court.
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I guess that sorta makes sense if you're thinking of "your internet" like you think of "your gun". I.e. "if you leave your rifle out on your windowsill and it gets stolen and used to murder a puppy, it's partially your fault for not securing it".
Just like if someones runs a red light camera in your car you get the ticket.



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How can they prove its not your roommates. How can they prove someone did not hack your network. Its completely legal to download something you could of bought, cause you can make a back up.
GettoPhilosopher understands. He his post above.
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I was reading up on this and this pales to Hurt Locker 24,000 plus they are "sueing" one issue it will take over 6 years to actually look up the IP to homes up.

http://www.zeropaid.com/news/93553/h...torrent-users/
ps i do not support any illegal activity.
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Old 06-05-2011, 2:26 PM
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Just like if someones runs a red light camera in your car you get the ticket.
Your wrong you dont get a ticket, you take the picture to court and say its not me, case dismissed period. You dont even have to say who it was. This is a common tactic for redlight camera tickets. At least in CA.

Edited, well you will get a ticket but you dont have to pay.
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Redbox is free if you wait for the freebie codes to come out.

It's not worth downloading movies in this day and age - which is pretty much what the copyright holders want us to think.

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