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Old 10-16-2018, 7:01 PM
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Default There is nothing more thrilling...

Tomorrow I'm having two CMP Garands show up.

I remember the olden days of waiting 4-6 months and just randomly getting a rifle at your house. I sent off a mail order for 2 M1s all the way back on last Tuesday and here we go...8 days later and they'll be here! Plus I already know the serial numbers.

3.7 mil Springfield Armory (late war rifle...here is to hoping for lock bars and perhaps a cartouche!)
5.75 mil H&R (somewhat rare serial number block)

There is nothing more fun than the surprise of opening the box. What will it be? Rebuild? New wood? Lockbars...oh please let there be lock bars.

Buying them is almost as fun as owning them.
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Old 10-16-2018, 7:07 PM
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Post pictures tomorrow! There’s definitely a sense of anxiety and exhilaration with it. Good luck!
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Old 10-16-2018, 7:22 PM
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Post pictures tomorrow! There’s definitely a sense of anxiety and exhilaration with it. Good luck!
Thanks. I'll try and get pictures up when I can. Never know what you're going to get.
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Looking forward to the pics
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Looking forward to the pics!
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I get really excited whenever I have a Firearm being shipped in. I check the tracking number several times a day to see if it got any closer,LOL

Kinda like Christmas as a kid. Looking forward to seeing what you receive. Hope they are nice.

I have a long searched for part for one of my old Whitney Kennedy Lever rifles coming this week and that is agonizing enough waiting, I bet your agony is ten fold.

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Very cool, I’m hoping for the day when H&R is a field or service grade option instead of luck of the draw

Congrats!
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Old 10-17-2018, 9:13 PM
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No pictures, long day, but here is the skinny:

1945 SA
3-49 SA barrel, TE 2, ME 1, original finish
Beautiful GI Birch stock...cracked CMP email tomorrow
Mix of GI parts
No lockbars or uncut oprod, no WWII GI wood...which is really what I'm after
Crown looks great, overall nice rifle

1956 H&R
This is the one that got me excited
5.75 so it is really, really late production
USGI HRA stock with 1/2 DAS and non serif P. A little rough but the original stock, so the wood is original and correct
Original finished barrel and receiver
11-53 Springfield Armory barrel. These are documented as observed and correct in late HRA rifles.
Mix of parts but she could be put back to correct. She needs the right trigger group, op rod and bolt, but that's doable.

Overall not sure that the WWII SA really has a long term home in my safe as I've got plenty of postwar rebuild examples, but the HRA is neat and fills a new spot in my collection. It's worth correcting as a project and gives me something to do.

Already have the itch to send out an order for a couple more. I love opening them and finding the surprises.
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Congratulations to two nice rifles.

It always excites me when the big white truck shows up before 10:00 AM unloading some long cardboard boxes and you know what's inside yet you really don't know till you open them up.



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Old 10-17-2018, 10:31 PM
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Three boxes...I like how you roll.
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Actually four boxes. Look closely at the second pic boxes leaning against the truck.
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Even better.

I think there really is no good reason not to buy the eight you can get a year. I am starting to think that probability is the best way to get real winners.

What four did you find? What's in the box?
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Just like the megamillions (900,000,000 now?), the more you buy the better your chance of winning.

This was a few years ago when CMP had them: 6 million, HRA correct, HRA service grade and an SA Service Grade Special.
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Old 10-17-2018, 11:11 PM
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We'll... It's not sporting to buy four tickets you know are winners!

I only bought two Greek returns. That was a mistake.
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I would try to refrain from trying to "correct" them. Correct to me is what they are now. You really cannot reverse what they are now and really gain anything by doing it. But that is just my thought. They are yours now. So you can do as you wish though. I personally prefer to leave em alone.
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I want one!
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Old 10-18-2018, 12:49 PM
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Congrats on the HRA, last maker I need and I’d love to have opened that box

I’ve been holding out on CMP offering HRA as a stand-alone option but my patience is wearing thin so I may just try and pick one up locally or from the boards
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Is the post-it-note request still working? I have a hankering to order one more Garand and I would prefer GI wood if I can get it.
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Old 10-18-2018, 4:30 PM
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I am 0/4 on post it note requests for an original finish WWII barreled receiver but I still try and I am sure they do too.
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Before the Turk/Filipino returns there was a release end of last year of service grade IHC/Winchester. I stickied a "pretty please" for original barrel and second choice USGI wood

got both, original barrels and USGI wood

Now, the two Springfields I ordered before that I stickied for USGI wood, both came in CMP stocks

So I'm 2/2
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Agggg....This is agony for me!
I sent in an order last year, after buying guns from CMP for 20 years, the NICS came back "denied."
I sent in an appeal, but they won't even look at it for another year and a half.
So, for a little while, all I can do is watch you guys open your boxes.

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Gonna bring them to the Saturday match? Maybe there will be 3 relays. Enjoy!!
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I would try to refrain from trying to "correct" them. Correct to me is what they are now. You really cannot reverse what they are now and really gain anything by doing it. But that is just my thought. They are yours now. So you can do as you wish though. I personally prefer to leave em alone.
I feel the same way. They are already as "correct" as they are ever going to be coming from the CMP. Switching out parts other than for repair just destroys the history of that particular gun. Who wants less history? Not me. Thats why I've never bought an M1 from other than the CMP. Even if the CMP replaced a part, they are still a US sponsored organization receiving these direct from the military. Its still more authentic then some douche replacing parts in his garage.

The last time I ordered, I ordered 3 guns. All of them were keepers. One of them was an HRA LEAD rebuild. So I recommend ordering at least three at a time to increase your odds of getting something a little out of the ordinary.

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I feel the same way. They are already as "correct" as they are ever going to be coming from the CMP. Switching out parts other than for repair just destroys the history of that particular gun. Who wants less history? Not me. Thats why I've never bought an M1 from other than the CMP. Even if the CMP replaced a part, they are still a US sponsored organization receiving these direct from the military. Its still more authentic then some douche replacing parts in his garage.

The last time I ordered, I ordered 3 guns. All of them were keepers. One of them was an HRA LEAD rebuild. So I recommend ordering at least three at a time to increase your odds of getting something a little out of the ordinary.

That's a beautiful set of rifles.

As to correcting, a nearly original rifle is something I'll invest the time in. A LEAD rebuild, or any other GI rebuild...those are also history and I'd also leave them be. As to the "douche in the garage switching out parts" well I guess we're just graduated from the douche in the barracks who switched them around to begin with.

I am going to go ahead and order three more on your advice.
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That's a beautiful set of rifles.

As to correcting, a nearly original rifle is something I'll invest the time in. A LEAD rebuild, or any other GI rebuild...those are also history and I'd also leave them be. As to the "douche in the garage switching out parts" well I guess we're just graduated from the douche in the barracks who switched them around to begin with.

I am going to go ahead and order three more on your advice.
Haha. I like your sense of humor. But I think its completely different if talking about GI's switching out parts. Thats a part of the gun's "service history". I want my M1s to be as close to what they were when they left military service. If that means every single part is mismatched and it was rebuilt a hundred times, I dont care. As long as it was all done while property of the DOD. Some people look down on "mix masters". I dont really care as long as it was all done while the gun was in military service and the TE and ME readings as well as the overall condition of the gun is good. A mixmaster is still a genuine USGI M1 rifle. Just as authentic as an unissued all original M1. It might not be as valuable but they are every bit as authentic.
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Very cool, I’m hoping for the day when H&R is a field or service grade option instead of luck of the draw

Congrats!
I bought a H&R in 2013 that was listed as a Service Grade Special (RM1HRASSP) consisting of collector grade metal in CMP wood, it is absolutely pristine and it shoots great, I just wish it was in correct GI wood... some people are never satisfied.
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unless its on a pallet using a freight company...meh
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The so called "correcting" thing is why I got out of M1 Carbines. They were correct only once. Problem with people doing this kind of thing is alot of times are they not only removing history of the replaced parts when in service.

But in alot of the cases with M1 Carbines, they were removing parts that may have been original form the beginning. Parts were swapped between most Makers to keep the production lines rolling.

So for instance a guy would swap out a hammer in his IBM that had a NPM one and put in a IBM marked one. Well that NPM Hammer could have very well been in that Carbine the day it was made.

Garands, I am not all that well versed in those to know if alot of parts were borrowed from other makers or not.

Will not even get into the sour taste that fake stamped parts gives me.
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I bought a H&R in 2013 that was listed as a Service Grade Special (RM1HRASSP) consisting of collector grade metal in CMP wood, it is absolutely pristine and it shoots great, I just wish it was in correct GI wood... some people are never satisfied.
I'm in the same mindset as you since I have that exact rifle too. The CMP wood is beautiful but I wish it were USGI wood.
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