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Desert Storm '91. Was part of an EVAC hospital, reassigned in theater to an MP unit of 3rd Inf. I think the 501st MP company if memory serves (its been awhile). Treated POW's and US soldiers.
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Low of 25 and high of 48F tomorrow in Pahrump.
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For those of you that have taken precision rifle what kind of rigs are guys running and how far out do you shoot? Do you need a Savage or Remington 700 or can you shoot it with an AR10 or Scar 17? What is the test for this one?
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For those of you that have taken precision rifle what kind of rigs are guys running and how far out do you shoot? Do you need a Savage or Remington 700 or can you shoot it with an AR10 or Scar 17? What is the test for this one?
I shoot a custom Remington 700. Most students shoot a bolt action (R700 or R700 pattern, Savages, DTAs, Sakos, FNH, etc.) There are a few AR10s. Never saw a Scar17 in that class. Caliber wise, most shoot .308 Rem, but I've seen .260, 6.5 Grendel, .338 Lapua, .300 Win Mag, .223 Rem.

You'll shoot out to 750 yds on paper.

The test is 10 single shots:

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300 yd head
head shot is ~4"x6". so that means you need to be able to shoot under 1 moa ? and under windy condition if needs to be ?
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It's still a little larger than moa. Moa at that distance is about 3.15". Yup, if it's windy, you still need to make the shot.
The OC is about 3.5"x5.5"

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I shoot a custom Remington 700. Most students shoot a bolt action (R700 or R700 pattern, Savages, DTAs, Sakos, FNH, etc.) There are a few AR10s. Never saw a Scar17 in that class. Caliber wise, most shoot .308 Rem, but I've seen .260, 6.5 Grendel, .338 Lapua, .300 Win Mag, .223 Rem.

You'll shoot out to 750 yds on paper.

The test is 10 single shots:

100 yd head
200 yd head
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Is there a time limit between shots?
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Is there a time limit between shots?
1.5 sec
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Just joking. There is no time limit to take the shot, within reason. The shooter needs to get set up, get comfortable behind the gun, load the rifle, adjust parallax, look at his chart, dial up elevation, judge the wind speed and direction, dial windage, etc. The shooter can wait until wind conditions are to his liking.

The test takes almost two hours.
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Back then, there wasn't all these specials, so for a low level membership, $10,000.00 was considered cheap!!!! Some of my freinds who were early members paid over $100,000.00!

I was an early member.
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For those of you that have taken precision rifle what kind of rigs are guys running and how far out do you shoot? Do you need a Savage or Remington 700 or can you shoot it with an AR10 or Scar 17? What is the test for this one?
Moa or less. People don't dg or g because of their set ups, its usually that they cannot read the wind. I have taken the course three times, twice with a 308 tc venture and a Swfa ss, and once with a homemade lr 308 with burris eliminator III. Each class I missed dg by one round.
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Sounds like a backfire to the new advanced test requirement. Yeah I know it's January 2nd and cold but I bet there would be more people if not for the new requirement. I can see him not wanting multiple classes but it would make sense to have a somewhat full class with the instructors there anyway. More people to buy food and ammo and maybe some gear etc.


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Awesome. I had a HCMP class with two students. We had to stop shooting for speed in the morning on the fourth day. We were just worn out. Needless to say we shot a bit more than the round count recommended for the class.
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Awesome. I had a HCMP class with two students. We had to stop shooting for speed in the morning on the fourth day. We were just worn out. Needless to say we shot a bit more than the round count recommended for the class.

I guess there's always an upside to things. You get much more practice in the four days and I'm certain your skills improve tremendously.


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that sounds like a plus to me.
note to self: bring lots of extra ammo.
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It's still a little larger than moa. Moa at that distance is about 3.15". Yup, if it's windy, you still need to make the shot.
The OC is about 3.5"x5.5"
That is a lot more difficult than shooting 1 moa.

When people talked about their gun shooting 1 moa. They are measuring the shot group. Even if all the rounds landed 1 foot away from x ring.

In reality. To hit a fixed size 1moa. Is a ton more difficult.
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I have trouble with that shot on the test. I think it's a mental block. It's not super hard though. Once you have that data for that distance, it's not bad. I've fooled around and can nail that shot at 400. I did it 2 for 2 last month.

When you take that shot on the test, aim for ear level. If you cut the head in half with the crosshairs, you'll be low.

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I have trouble with that shot on the test. I think it's a mental block. It's not super hard though. Once you have that data for that distance, it's not bad. I've fooled around and can nail that shot at 400. I did it 2 for 2 last month.

When you take that shot on the test, aim for ear level. If you cut the head in half with the crosshairs, you'll be low.
This is some useful info. I tend to bisect the whole target on the test and end up low in the thoracic. I'll have train myself to start aiming for ear level as well as to remind myself aim at armpit level.
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Is it ok for me to sell my diamond membership and if so how much are they going for now a days?

I bought mine years ago and have NEVER been able to get out to use it and dont forsee it happening anytime in the future.
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not really financially feasible for you to sell your only membership. IIRC, the fee that Frontsight charges to transfer that membership would be $495. better to just keep the membership and hope that you can eventually make it out there.
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not really financially feasible for you to sell your only membership. IIRC, the fee that Frontsight charges to transfer that membership would be $495. better to just keep the membership and hope that you can eventually make it out there.
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I bought the membership when I was making money back in 2007. I am now working part-time, a college student and newly wed. lol I need money more than I need a membership to a firearms training facility in another state.
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I bought the membership when I was making money back in 2007. I am now working part-time, a college student and newly wed. lol I need money more than I need a membership to a firearms training facility in another state.
Yea, I get that. Not to much chance of selling it with the $495 transfer fee attached. I think previously there was not any way to transfer one registered to you other than as part of an upgrade.

Hopefully Front Sight will be around long enough for you to use it sometime in the future. I am crossing my fingers they will be, as I have given memberships to my kids and grand-kids and they are mostly not in the financial position to take advantage of it yet either due to the travel and ammo costs.

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Anyone taking the shotgun skillbuilder class starting on Jan 6th? Looks like nice weather for it . . . Lows in the 40's, High of 68, and mild wind. Should be good.
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I bought mine years ago and have NEVER been able to get out to use it and dont forsee it happening anytime in the future.
Don't sell it. Hopefully they are still there 5-10 years from now and you can make it out there. I know someone who sells diamond memberships for $99 so asking for more than that is not a good idea. Put money aside and go in 5 years our something.
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That is a lot more difficult than shooting 1 moa.

When people talked about their gun shooting 1 moa. They are measuring the shot group. Even if all the rounds landed 1 foot away from x ring.

In reality. To hit a fixed size 1moa. Is a ton more difficult.
If 1 MOA, all rounds from 100 yds. would be in a 1" circle (or less).
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I'm taking my first 4-day Tactical Shotgun class starting Jan 30. Looking for preparation and equip/ammo tips.
I've read that low recoil ammo is suggested - Does anyone know of specific brands that work well and are reasonably priced?
What shell holders are recommended?
Any recommendations on how best to prepare for the class - shooting at the range?


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I'm taking my first 4-day Tactical Shotgun class starting Jan 30. Looking for preparation and equip/ammo tips.
I've read that low recoil ammo is suggested - Does anyone know of specific brands that work well and are reasonably priced?
What shell holders are recommended?
Any recommendations on how best to prepare for the class - shooting at the range?


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As far as ammo goes, the Federal 13200 low-recoil 00 buck has a reputation for a tight pattern at decent distances. Make sure the box says it has the flitecontrol wad. SGammo has it in stock right now.
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I'm taking my first 4-day practical rifle course starting Feb 6.
Im looking for preparation and equipment tips.
I'm planning to shoot one of my AR's. I have a carbine - simple, low cost version) and a target version (with a 20" heavy barrel on a White Oak Armament upper, with Giesle trigger etc). The carbine shoots 3-4 moa while the target version shoots about 1 moa. The target version weighs in about 12-14 lbs while the carbine weighs about 7 pounds. I have a mil/mil 4-14 scope that I can mount on either, or use either with iron sights.
Is higher accuracy needed for this course? Will the extra weight of the target version be a detriment?
Are Mag pouches recommended? I live in CA and only have 10-round mags - it seems difficult to find mag pouches for 10-round mags - does anyone know of pouches that work with 10-round mags? Are 10-round mags a detriment in the class? If so, do they rent 20 or 30 round mags? It doesn't make sense to buy them since I can't take them home with me.

Has anyone used the mag magnet for the bullet button mag release? I'm thinking about getting and using this http://ar-magmagnet.com/i-8599449-mag-magnet-gen2.html
I had issues with my bullet button coming undone, so I used locktite to hold it together and am concerned I'll mess it up if I try to install the standard mag release (when I get to NV)
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As far as ammo goes, the Federal 13200 low-recoil 00 buck has a reputation for a tight pattern at decent distances. Make sure the box says it has the flitecontrol wad. SGammo has it in stock right now.
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What shell holders are recommended?
Any recommendations on how best to prepare for the class - shooting at the range?


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Lots of folks use the low-recoil LE ammo. Make sure it runs well in your gun, especially if you are running a semi-auto. I prefer low-based shotshell. My shotgun is harder to operate with high base.

I use California competition shell holders like these: http://www.brownells.com/shooting-ac...-prod4148.aspx Some use these to hold slugs for drills: http://www.brownells.com/shooting-ac...prod27520.aspx

I also use a dump pouch. I like these for both the shotgun and AR classes: http://www.maxpedition.com/store/pc/...Pouch-p228.htm

Some guys like to use these: http://store-fzh7d.mybigcommerce.com...g/BDWSAB/1.jpg It is not my preference.

Many have side saddles on their gun. I find it makes the gun pretty heavy by the time you run an extended mag and side saddle. Side saddle probably faster for select-slug drills.

As far as preparing, get comfortable presenting and shooting from the: high-ready, ready-ready, and low-ready. Practice shooting out to 50 yards off hand. If you know the techniques for port loading, tactical reloads and slug selection, I would practice those as well.

Finally, depending on the shot-shell you use, their length will vary. For example, traditional 6 point crimp vs. roll crimp. Make sure your shell holders work for the ammo you intend to use. The flight control wad ammo is awesome but generally expensive compared to other ammo available.
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I'm taking my first 4-day Tactical Shotgun class starting Jan 30. Looking for preparation and equip/ammo tips.
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What shell holders are recommended?
Any recommendations on how best to prepare for the class - shooting at the range?


Thank you
Yes, do yourself a favor and get the low recoil buckshot AND slugs, your shoulder will thank you after 4 days. I run the winchester Rangers LE low recoil stuff. The buck patterns well but nowhere mere as well as the federals with the fightcontrol wadded stuff. The ranger slugs I can consistently do headshots at 35y and drill a 5" circle at 50y.
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Well just finished up day 3 of Handgun Combat Master Prep. We added 5 people to our class who are just taking the 2 day (test days only). So a total of 9 people in the class allows us to double up on the test. We are doing it 8 times total.

My best today was 124 down. This test is no joke. Crazy fast. Hollenbach showed up today and passed it twice. He might have gotten 3 but I got a squib that I didn't catch during test 4 and ended with a catastrophic failure. Looks like it might just be a lost barrel. Not hurt easy fix and lesson learned. Was a primer no powder. I saw and felt nothing that would have indicated a squib. But things are moving so fast I could have missed it and went right into my tap rack.

Anyway, just an update I'll have more details on the class after I'm home. Did I mention crazy fast?

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Yes, do yourself a favor and get the low recoil buckshot AND slugs, your shoulder will thank you after 4 days. I run the winchester Rangers LE low recoil stuff. The buck patterns well but nowhere mere as well as the federals with the fightcontrol wadded stuff. The ranger slugs I can consistently do headshots at 35y and drill a 5" circle at 50y.
Also, you can get some low-recoil target loads in bird shot. Many buy the Walmart 100-pack promotional loads and they are pretty hotly loaded. Get something with 2 3/4 DRAM equivalent for bird shot or something less than 1200 fps. This assumes a 12 gauge.

This should be a very low recoil round with less than a 2 3/4 DRAM equivalent: http://www.winchester.com/PRODUCTS/S...s/AA12FL8.aspx
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Old 01-04-2015, 6:28 PM
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Well just finished up day 3 of Handgun Combat Master Prep. We added 5 people to our class who are just taking the 2 day (test days only). So a total of 9 people in the class allows us to double up on the test. We are doing it 8 times total.

My best today was 124 down. This test is no joke. Crazy fast. Hollenbach showed up today and passed it twice. He might have gotten 3 but I got a squib that I didn't catch during test 4 and ended with a catastrophic failure. Looks like it might just be a lost barrel. Not hurt easy fix and lesson learned. Was a primer no powder. I saw and felt nothing that would have indicated a squib. But things are moving so fast I could have missed it and went right into my tap rack.

Anyway, just an update I'll have more details on the class after I'm home. Did I mention crazy fast?

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124 down is awesome. When you hit the double digits you are a serious contender. Well done.
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