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View Poll Results: Favorite Tactical Firearms Training outfit(s) in SoCal | |||
Academi/U.S. Training Center/Blackwater | 7 | 4.38% | |
FOG (Falcon Operations Group) | 41 | 25.63% | |
FTA (Firearms Training Associates) | 14 | 8.75% | |
GGT (Grey Group Training) | 15 | 9.38% | |
ITTS (International Tactical Training Seminars) | 25 | 15.63% | |
TAC-1 (Tactical Advanced Combat) | 16 | 10.00% | |
TASC (The Academy of Saint Crispian) | 60 | 37.50% | |
TFTT (Tactical Firearms Training Team) | 14 | 8.75% | |
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 160. You may not vote on this poll |
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I just got from T.A.S.C. today and have taken his other courses and it's been hands down the best classes i have taken compared to others that I will not mention. +1 for Stan. Great instructor, great guy.
Be prepared to do ALOT of shooting!
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I just got from T.A.S.C. today and have taken his other courses and it's been hands down the best classes i have taken compared to others that I will not mention. +1 for Stan. Great instructor, great guy.
Be prepared to do ALOT of shooting!
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A golf course is a terrible waste of a perfectly good rifle range. -Lt. Col. Dave Grossman |
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I vote for TASC- Stan is a great instructor with a great background and teaching skills. I have a more extensive review in the TASC thread as well http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...=467279&page=5, post 170 and another one below that. The prices are great and Stan was very enthusiastic about his students learning. Would recommend!!
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A few more outfits that I've tried recently except for Mossie Tactics which will be in August:
I have personally trained with all 12 outfits (the original 8 + the above 4) except for MT.
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DTC was actually from March 26, 2011 (last year but I had forgotten to mention them before) and it was called "Intermediate to Advanced Training for IDPA Competitors". A lot of shooters and we got good tips on how to cut our time as well as on the classifier.
C6 was an "Advanced Tactical Handgun" and it was great (AAR). They look very promising. PTS was a half day of "Close Contact/Intermediate Distance Class" and it was fairly good with a lot of repetitions. Would like to go to an advanced handgun with higher caliber of shooters when they have it to judge them better. Another of the recent ones I attended for the first time was FTA and the "Advanced Pistol - Low Light & Night Shooting" had just too many shooters who were not advanced.
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Took several classes with them back in 2007 before I knew any better. I confessed to my sins.
Enough has been said about ADE. Personally, NOT recommended.
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Has anyone taken any Executive Protection courses from Covered6? How do they compare/rate to any other socal training facility for Executive Protection courses? Additionally, what about their Advanced Pistol courses?
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I did take a 1-day "Advanced Tactical Handgun" with C6 in Feb. 2012 and it was great (click here for the AAR).
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In February I had my first two full days of instruction with TASC/Stan at Prado. The all day CAT 303 is well worth your time and money. Look at it as a quick but detailed pre-deployment carbine & pistol exercise. Stan loads you up with an email before the class explaining everything with PP slides. You start the day with warmup with primary and secondary weapons at various distances to include turns and moving while shooting. Then, you get into moving, shooting and communicating as 2 and 4 man teams. Moving forth, back and lateral based on range (35 yards) to target. Assessment of ACE (ammo, casualty, equipment) at LOA (limit of advance). We also did various team movement with barricades.
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A TASC video you may find useful to judge how Stan is as an instructor:
http://youtu.be/uiXsPKqg3uw: |
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Larry Vickers Ken Hackathorn Pat McNamara Kyle Defoor Mike Pannone Northern Red Rob Leatham John McPhee Dave Harrington
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Vickers and Vogel are coming back to RR&GC and I think RB1 is tenatively scheduled at Chabot this summer but that's it for the top tier classes up here I've seen so far. |
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yeah, I don't see any of the classes fit into my schedule based on current version.
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Tacfire ( www.tacfire.com ) has excellent training, though lately the classes have been limited, looking for a new "home" range.
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Just a side note about DTC or Dynamic Training Concepts. We have intentionally not offered tactical style classes to the general public because I disagreed with what seems to be the current popular trends. Taking classes teaching military style tactics while fun really doesn't prepare you for a conflict on the street, at least not here in the USA. At least it doesnt prepare you for surviving the criminal and civil aftermath of a lethal or near lethal encounter. Instead we have focused on providing competition based classes, usually by request, to small groups of competitors. We would only open them up to the general public to fill up a class.
Recently however, due to ongoing demand we are going to start offering our "Street Survival" class to the general public. It is based on what we believe are the needed skills to survive a violent encounter on the streets, not the battlefield. It will include a mixture of empty hand defensive techniques, basic responses to an edged weapon and chemical sprays, the Trueller concept, weapons retention and takeaways, and of course firearms and the skills needed to win an encounter from 0 - 10 yards. This, at least for the foreseeable future, will be our sole tactical offering to the general public. All classes will be restricted to a maxi of 8 students. We rarely advertise our classes, at most a small post on the website, so if you have an interest please contact us. Often times classes are sold out before they are even scheduled, usually by the individual requesting them. |
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Send me an email at bob@dynamictrainingconcepts.com and we will get a list started. The first one is already sold out, but if the interest is there we can schedule another for late Jan or early Feb.
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I've taken courses at Academi and one not on your list, Aegis Academy in north county san diego.
Guys are great, I've taken two classes with them. Check 'em out. www.aegisacademy.com
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Which of these schools or do all these schools have hands on qualification tests to prove a student has mastered the material at one level before progressing to the next level? OR is cold hard cash and a clear schedule all that is required to progress to the next level??
If your school does not have a solid, non negotiable vetting process does that worry you are you progresses to more dynamic and challenging training levels? |
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Great prerequisite to take Advanced Pistol by passing their Advanced Course Qualification on day one (doesn't say start holstered but it probably is): Quote:
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Indeed. There's the rub.
Obviously, enough time has transpired to merit an update. However, what constitutes "local"? Twice a year visit? Additionally, I should not be a final arbiter of inclusiveness even though I attend a wider variety than most.
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I would like to be considered for the list as well since I am very much local!
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Cash is king and F the ones who are advanced, thats the norm at alot of the "advanced" courses I have found.
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