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Rimfire Firearms .22, .17 and other Rimfire Handguns and Rifles |
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.22 for defense
Now I would never use a .22 for home defense unless I had no other option. Here is some food for thought. This article has some great stats on the .22 for defense at http://www.shootingillustrated.com/i...-self-defense/
Also a vid of different .22 rounds damage to balistics gel. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=WDvdjdzB_ro |
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Plenty of people around the world, both good and bad, have been killed with the .22 cartridge.
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Indeed. Of course a .22LR isn't the "optimal" choice vs. a 12 gauge with 00 Buck (or insert your favorite choice here), but if it was the only firearm I had, I'd certainly take that over my hands, a knife or some random blunt object.
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Ruger LCR 22 magnum! :-)
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http://www.gunblast.com/Ruger-LCR22Mag.htm The pic: Last edited by sd_shooter; 02-02-2013 at 4:42 AM.. |
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+2, you can kill with a thumb tack if you have the talent.
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Umm...okay.
I think I'll stick with my more traditional means of defence.
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Seeing as how Feinstein has now added 22 ar clones to her ban proposal they must be the devil. Like others have said shot placement is key. Remember though a person attacking while on pcp will be hard to stop even with a 45, but for most situations I believe if you can put the round where you intend it will stop an attacker. I use a 32 acp as my concealed weapon yes it is bigger but not by much. Do a google search for .22lr supressed sniper rifle you will see some country's use this as the silent killer to start an assault all boils down to shot placement.
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Shot a coyote with 10-22 and stinger 20 yards away and he brake danced for a sec then ran off
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Rimfire kills a large number of humans every year. Doesn't mean it is a good defensive caliber. There's a huge number of guns out there that get handled and mishandled everyday. It is these huge numbers that account for the high numbers of rimfire deaths not its stellar stopping power. Only seeing these fatal numbers doesn't say how many were shot and ran away or continued the attack.
When out shooting my rimfires I seem to enjoy good reliablity but still get a jam once in a while. Lets say a good rimfire reliable number is 2 per thousand will misfire or jam. Well I have thousands and thousands of rounds down the tube of my centerfire HD pistol and not one jam or stoppage. Centerfire ammo makers will take one instance of a misfire and investigate the cause. Try to get the attention of anyone over a "few" misfires or jams. They will laugh and truck on. Do you want that misfire or jam you know will happen at the wrong time. People who want to use rimfire for SD are misguided. And they have no idea how fast an attacker can cover the last 7 yards. Can you unjam your rimfire in that time? If that is all you have go ahead and just choot em. |
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I would have no issues with a 10/22 stuffed with CCI Velocitors.
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Shot it right behind the shoulder.
Shot placement is limited when terminal ballistics are inadequate. It's not the first I have shot and ran off. Other then a spine or head shot it lacks the stopping power for coyote hunting. 22LR is not recommended for SD. If thats all you have so be it. Normally I use .223 here is a 5.56 gelatin video. http://youtu.be/PGgojSI62pI
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Here we go again.
This is why I reload 22lr for home defense. 100% reliability with stopping power you wouldn't believe. .25gr Unique under my own design 400gr WLN bullet. My chronograph can't pick up fps but I know it's really down there. |
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Just curious about the bullet's BC. Fill us in?
And I'd use a .22 for defense if I didn't have any other firearm available. But I'd use a .25 acp before resorting to baseball bats or candlesticks.
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Pretty hard to chamber those isn't it?? |
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Not really, that's why I use a break open single shot.
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I just imagined what a 400gr .22 would look like. Lol
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Might need a shoulder thingy that goes up....
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400 gr .22 bullet lol
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If given the choice I would not pick a .22 or even a .22 mag for self defence. However like my buddy BUBBA once said to me. "Let's test it out. I'll shoot you in the chest a cpl of times and see what happens". We didn't test it but I'm betting I would have felt some discomfort.
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or just start pointing it at the bad guys man area.
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I would totally use .22 for defense if that's all i had or if the conditions were met to use a 22. my 1022 shoots 1 inch groups at 50 yards. i think 10 rounds of 22 at the chest is gonna put someone down. If it doesn't then i'll run to the threat and start whacking him over the head with the ruger
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I would not be afraid of using one of CMMG AR22s for self defense. 50 rounds will sure stop anyone. Very light at 5 pounds,easy to aim and accurrate to shoot in a small space. I could put those 50 in em pretty Darn quickly too.
Is it the perfect cartridge,no,but I personally would trust the right .22 model to do the job. I know one of the big arguments against .22 as self defense is they can sometimes have misfires and do so more than centerfire. However if I use good quality .22 in mine and it never ever jams or has a dud round. But Murphys Law could be a problem,with my luck it probably would be .22 Rimfire has become alot more reliable than it used to be. Any weopon can fail at anytime. They are mechanical devices and mechanical devices usually fail at the most inopportune time,as we all know.. I would trust my CMMG to do the job if it ever actually did come to that. 50 rounds in a firearm, is sure a big advantage, in my theory anyway.. Last edited by AR22; 02-02-2013 at 11:30 AM.. |
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Certainly not my first choice, but better than a rock or a stick.
Use what you have don't miss!
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Why would you insist on using a .22 for home defense, when shotguns are cheap and available.
You don't want to stop the bad guy on the 5th round. You want to stop him on the first round.
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Way back in the last century, when I went to arrest fugitives, who were hiding in a motel or hotel, besides my service revolver, I carried a 10-22 with a folding stock.
If there was to be shooting on my part, I didn't want any rounds going through a wall. Once, an officer said, The .22 makes small holes." I replied, "I have a 30 round magazine, it will make a lot of small holes." Last edited by yelohamr; 02-03-2013 at 11:03 AM.. |
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Please give details. Shot placement, rounds fired, number of hits etc. would be helpful for those of us that think going after a bad guy with a 10-22 is a really bad idea, regardless of the penetration issues. Would also be nice to know which department gave you their blessing to use a 10-22 for the scenario you explained. |
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