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Old 11-14-2019, 1:58 PM
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OC, those are very nice lever guns that don't get a lot of mention. They seem to be a bit hard to find, but, they're out there. And not overly priced as most would expect. Nice rifles indeed.

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I have had a Rossi for about 5 years and love it. It just works with anything I put in it. Fit and finish is OK but not great but for a $500 plinker it is a great deal.
Plenty of youtube vids oe to DIY refinish stocks. It is what i did.
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Plenty of youtube vids oe to DIY refinish stocks. It is what i did.
The Brazillian mystery wood is tough to work with. I've tried to darken the wood on 3 different R92s, they just don't want to soak up any stain.

I just drosed a new 20" carbine yesterday. Its the nicest looking new Rossi 92 I have seen. Of course I'm to hard headed to leave it alone.
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Henry website does not show a sidegate in 38/357

https://www.henryusa.com/rifles/side-gate-lever-action/

only .30-30 Win, .38-55 Win, .35 Rem, .45-70 Gov't

does someone have more updated info if this is wrong ???


Im pretty sure the only side gate they have is the new .327 Federal Magnum they created recently. Hickok45 did a piece on it not too long ago
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Because the new ones are $650ish and at present they might even be better.
"They MIGHT even be better" as in what smitty?
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Marlin with 18" barrel here. Well balanced carbine. My fave "camp gun". In contrast to the 45 Colt with 16" barrel which is not as well balanced.
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The Brazillian mystery wood is tough to work with. I've tried to darken the wood on 3 different R92s, they just don't want to soak up any stain.

I just drosed a new 20" carbine yesterday. Its the nicest looking new Rossi 92 I have seen. Of course I'm to hard headed to leave it alone.
Frankly, i'm surprised. I bought "gunstock 231" stain/finish at Homedepot.
With sandpaper removed all old finish to bare wood, stained with two layers of the stain. Then finished it with 7-8 layers fo hand-rubbed Tru-Oil gunstock finish (prohibited in CA, so buy it on eBay, they do not know).
If interested i can post some pix of finished product.

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Frankly, i'm surprised. I bought "gunstock 231" stain/finish at Homedepot.
With sandpaper removed all old finish to bare wood, stained with two layers of the stain.
If interested i can post some pix of finished product.

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'I'm a big fan of Tru-oil.
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Here are some. I's been 6-7 years and 100s and 100s of rounds, was bitten up on many pig hunts range and camping trips so many scratches and what not. I think the finish held perfectly for the hell this gun went through.
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Here are some. I's been 6-7 years and 100s and 100s of rounds, was bitten up on many pig hunts range and camping trips so many scratches and what not. I think the finish held perfectly for the hell this gun went through.
Very nice carbine. The finish doesn't look any darker than factory tho..That tru-oil is tough stuff, it holds up really well.

I'd like to get mine dark dark walnut but the wood just wont soak up the stain, no matter how much I put on it.

Thanks for posting up the pictures. Its a great model 92 you have there.
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That leather wrap on the stock is one of the few I actually think looks really good. Nicely done.

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Here are some. I's been 6-7 years and 100s and 100s of rounds, was bitten up on many pig hunts range and camping trips so many scratches and what not. I think the finish held perfectly for the hell this gun went through.
Especially love the forend treatment!
Wish I had the skills and temerity to do the same to mine.
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I smell another MLC shoot soon. Who's with me.
Sniffing here. I'll be in contact. Soon!

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Very nice carbine. The finish doesn't look any darker than factory tho..
I'd like to get mine dark dark walnut but the wood just wont soak up the stain, no matter how much I put on it.
There are some things i have to add:
1. on the picture It looks much lighter than the real thing due to the strong LED lights.
2. It is as dark as i wanted it to be. It was the second attempt. The first was darker "walnut" which i did not like. The lighter version of "gunstock" is what appealed to me and came in "harmony" with the leatherwork.
3. Use a darker finish/stain. It will take it. With patience, you can stain even oak. I stained "mahogany" my oak knife handle. Took little time.

I read and reread many posts about the R92 staining. No one expressed any difficulty in re-staining the stock after proper finish removal. See all the links below.

Maybe you got "one of a kind" ;-)


Here are some links which might help you:
https://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/t...-question.html
http://castboolits.gunloads.com/show...Rossi-92-stock
http://rossi-rifleman.com/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=2577
https://www.ar15.com/forums/armory/S...se_/47-361332/
https://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/t...uestion-3.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXq3VZzCHjY
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Depends. What vintage is your 92? I ask because the one I have, purchased five years ago, new, has very porous grain. Almost like balsa wood. There was no gloss finish on it, either. I have simply oiled mine with Hoppes gun oil, and twice. No sanding or other prep. It's nice and smooth, though still appearing porous.
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Depends. What vintage is your 92? I ask because the one I have, purchased five years ago, new, has very porous grain. Almost like balsa wood. There was no gloss finish on it, either. I have simply oiled mine with Hoppes gun oil, and twice. No sanding or other prep. It's nice and smooth, though still appearing porous.
Try to wet-sand it with "Tru-Oil". The sand dust will fill the pores. Let it dry and repeat. After 3-4 layers it is going to be mirror-smooth with no pores. Use 400 grit sandpaper.
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Maybe you got "one of a kind" ;-)
Actually it would be 3 of a kind. I'll be getting my 4th one on Saturday.

Its a common problem with the Brazillian mystery wood.

Chris, yours is a Puma or Legacy Arms, correct? It also has a very dark finish. I've noticed that with some of the older guns.
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golfish and 'Apples; Putting new optics on the .45 Colt. Tired of squinting and not seeing diddley. Scope time fellas! Mark, when I get it set-up, I'll send a picture.

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golfish and 'Apples; Putting new optics on the .45 Colt. Tired of squinting and not seeing diddley. Scope time fellas! Mark, when I get it set-up, I'll send a picture.

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I hear ya. I spent a pretty penny on some Skinners signts that I can't use. I'll keep em for Cole and my Grandson.

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Thanks Boarhuntor.

Since I'm having trouble texting and phoning, I'll put this here. Tom, Mark, headed out to our spot off the 395 this Thursday, if not then Friday for sure. If it's raining in the basin on Thurs, the weather app says the dez should be clear.
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Found a new Rossi OTD $715. If my PPT comes through Iím spending $15 for this.
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Found a new Rossi OTD $715. If my PPT comes through I’m spending $15 for this.
I just picked up a 20" round barrel. Its was $486.98 at Buds Gun. OTD it was $602 and change.

Just like the other 3 rossis that I have, it has problems. This one won't cycle the longer .357 rounds. I'm not worried, it will probably smooth out or I'll just make some shorter loads..

I've come to the conclusion that the Winchester is the way to go. Its right at a $400.00 differents.

The bluing on the Rossi's is beautiful, the fit is ok and the wood is just ok. If you take a white cloth and rub it over the wood it will turn a redish brown due to the shoe polish finish they use. I'm going to just try some 1/3rd mix on it.

Suprisingly, the action on this one is smooth and easy.
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Just bought a Henry Big Boy Steel.
From grab a gun. $785 OTD
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Just bought a Henry Big Boy Steel.
From grab a gun. $785 OTD
Your going to really like that gun. IMO, the tube feed guns are great for the range and just plinking. Please post up some pictures and a range report.

I can't wait for the side loader in 44mag to be made ..
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Now I wish I got the big loop version. Oh well guess see how I like this and upgrade later. Iíll practice fast tube loads for the zombie apocalypse
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And anyone have experience with what these Henryís like in 357 and 38? Hear a lot of these lever guns are picky with ammo
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My Henry Big Boy brass in .357 handles .38 spl just fine. But, I've only run 158's thru them in .38 cases. I usually run .357 thru it.
Oh, as a side note: .38 loads in .357 cases works well. This eliminates the "carbon ring" in the chamber. That ring can eventually lead to difficulty in chambering .357 rounds. Regular cleaning helps a bunch.
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Finally jailed my Henry Big Boy Steel .357 20Ē. The worst 10 days of my life

Thanks to all that gave input and especially golfish, helped me finally decide on the Henry.
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Whichever you choose, I can tell you that shooting commercial .357 from a lever carbine is about the most fun you can have with yer pants on.

And that's a fact.

Learn to handload (which I do but for .44 and .45-70) and I'm sure it'll be even more fun.
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Your going to hate me cause your going to want another, and then another..
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^lol im sure I will. Probably wonít want another gun soon. But I know Iím gonna spend a bunch of money tinkering with this bad boy.
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Whichever you choose, I can tell you that shooting commercial .357 from a lever carbine is about the most fun you can have with yer pants on.

And that's a fact.

Learn to handload (which I do but for .44 and .45-70) and I'm sure it'll be even more fun.
I bet. I have ARs and an Ak. But the most fun I have at the range is with my Remy 700 and 10/22s. Iím betting this lever gun is not gonna help the wallet. Especially when Iím shooting this and the GP100.
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I think you mentioned that your up north. If you ever get down this way with your lever gun/s your more than welcome to join us on a Mojave shoot.

I have to say that everytime that I have been shooting in the Mojave with Apples and Penn, there's a lot more talking than shooting. I really think that we could all show up with 20 rounds of every caliber we have in the trucks and still walk away with a few rounds that we didn't used.

Lots of talking, looking and good times.
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Mark, I have an excuse to shoot more next time: Sight in the now scoped .45 Henry. Unless it's dialed right in, then, more yapping. Think I'll bring my 30-30 also.

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Last time we shot together I was pressure-lapping my .44 SBL.

I won't subject you fellers to that again.

I was out early last month to a spot my son and I used to shoot at when he lived in Tehachapi. I was pressure-lapping my Super Blackhawk, shooting my .44 SBL and 1911. I went through some ammo.

Two older dudes (older than me!) rolled up in a Suburban with a couple of Glocks but parked about 75 yards east of my spot.

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F-150 lookin' good Chris. How did the .44 SBL do?

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Old 12-03-2019, 8:13 AM
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Itís a neat piece. Pretty much a longer-barreled shoulder-fired ree-volver.

I can back off my powder charge for the 270 grain Deep Curls, though. Was looking for 1500+ from book recipes but I think 1400 - 1500 fps might be the sweet spot for this 6 lb carbine. It loves any and all 240 grain loads. Iíll see how fast I can get those going according to the books.
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