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California 2nd Amend. Political Discussion & Activism Discuss gun rights activism and 2A related political topics here. All advice given is NOT legal counsel. |
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Au Contraire Monsieur. Feinstein's AWB may be dead-today. But gun control bills are like Imhotep in The Mummy movies: no matter the spells you cast or how deep you buried the sarcophagus, gun control keeps coming back to life. When Imhotep's AWB inevitably comes back from the grave after the next mass shooting, I intend to send it back to the Underworld via the "Golden Book", AKA the US Constitution.
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I assume(hope) prices should lower slightly considering. More importantly, this is a good win. At least for now!
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Feinstein's ban is not dead merely delayed until she offers it as an amendment to another must pass bill. Add to that the fact that Magpul and other may have to pick up stakes and move I don't see any improvement for a while.
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I was not expecting to crack a smile reading this thread, thank you sir.
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Not until the gun bill is voted on and there's no chance these things will be introduced as amendments.
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Her bill isn't dead. in 1994 they got the awb passed the same way, as an amendment. Keep calling, keep emailing, keep fighting.
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don't even think for one second she is going away with this. she is going to wait for the next shooting and propose it again. or wait until the 2014 midterm elections are over. if the demoKrats get control of the House it's game over.
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...state Democrats have their marching orders; try to get similar laws enacted at the State level. It ain't over, not by a long shot. And as already posted, the Mummy awaits to resurrect her failed ban again and again.
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Even if the AW ban proposals never happen again, as long as 922r is on the books and the barrel ban is enforced, high prices are here forever. This is one the NRA should be putting their muscle behind, plucking the low hanging fruit of 922r. |
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Although the fight is not over by a long shot on the Fed level, the full court press at state/local levels with similarly worded bans/retrictions will keep demand high and supply low. While I'm definitely a capitalist and begrudge nobody a profit, there still is such a thing as price gouging. Thanks to those who are not so gouging. As to those who buy at such prices, it really is their business. If a $20 pmag is worth $75 to them so as not to be deprived should new laws follow, so be it, even though I wish it were different.
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lol...
We Californian's never had to really fear the federal ban... Read up on SB 396 SB 47
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S.462 - United States-Israel Strategic Partnership Act of 2013 This bill has "overwhelming support" by both republicans and democrats and no one will dare vote against it if they want to keep their congressional seats. I can picture a big Obama rose garden signing ceremony for this. |
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She wont even wait: it will be attached as an amendment—repeatedly—until it either passes or she does.
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It looks like they have some scary changes to the penal code. Even the rewording of punishing someone for possessing a .50 BMG has been changed to apply to all "assault weapons". You used to be exempt from those provisions if you were grandfathered, but now you are only exempt from the punishment, so the new rules may apply to grandfathered guns unless you register as an assault weapon. The DROS fees are now indexed for inflation.. How come they didn't index AMT and other tax income limit from inflation? You have to register weapons with magazines that "can be removed readily from the firearm with the use of a tool". There goes the bullet buttons on the guns (without registration). We need a good lawyer to digest through this crap of changes to California that will definitely be implemented by the supermajority. http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/fa...=201320140SB47 SB 47 --------------------------------- (b) For purposes of this section, “fixed magazine” means an ammunition feeding device contained in, or permanently attached to, a firearm in such a manner that the device cannot be removed without disassembly of the firearm action. Any person who, from January 1, 2001, to December 31, 2013, inclusive, lawfully possessed an assault weapon that does not have a fixed magazine, as defined in Section 30515, including those weapons with an ammunition feeding device that can be removed readily from the firearm with the use of a tool, shall register the firearm before July 1, 2014, with the department pursuant to those procedures that the department may establish. Existing law requires that any person who, within this state, possesses any .50 BMG rifle except as otherwise provided, be punished by a fine of $1,000, imprisonment in a county jail for a period not to exceed one year, or by both that fine and imprisonment. This bill would exempt those provisions a person who possessed an assault weapon prior to July 1, 2014, if specified requirements are met. Revisions: -------------------------- Existing law requires that any person who, within this state, possesses an assault weapon, except as otherwise provided, be punished as a felony or for a period not to exceed one year, in a county jail. This bill would exclude from those punishment a person who possessed an assault weapon under that provision prior to January 1, 2014, and until July 1, 2014, if specified requirements are met. Last edited by ShadowX; 03-23-2013 at 4:50 PM.. |
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We need to show anti 2nd Amendment politicians they will be voted out for attemping to take away our civil rights. Anti- 2nd Amendment Politicians could become emboldened again if we do not assert ourselves in the midterm elections. Or even worse, the "Perfect Storm" of midterm elections not going our way, followed by another gun related massacre. The "gun free zones" virtually guarantee the next massacre will be a high body count, and the media will once again fill the airwaves with anti gun propaganda. All pro 2nd Amendment organizations need to have a well thought out, vetted plan for dealing with the anti's propaganda onslaught when the next gun related massacre occurs. Hopefully, the NRA will step up its game on countering this flood of anti gun rhetoric that inundates us each time one of these horrific events occur. Waiting one week before making any statement about these massacre's just seems to play into the anti's "let's demonize the NRA" playbook. Hiring people like Colion Noir will definitely help NRA with countering the lies and distortions spewed forth by biased media and anti gun politicians after these tragedies occur. Noble |
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Why is everyone concerned about these laws only as it affects PRICES? This is an effort to demonize every gun owner and make us into criminals. I don't give a **** what rebuild kits cost. Bragging about hi-cap rebuild kits didn't help us!
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If there were not; someone would lower his price to pick up market share... and then someone else would have the same thought... and so on and so forth... |
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No; we are worried about that also... but we could still use some more mags...
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Lance has them for a fair price if you are patient...
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Has anyone seen the movie "Demolition Man", where they have a gun-free society. Only the bad guys have guns...even the police can't understand how to take on these bad guys. Well, in the movie we had the hero - Mr.Rambo take on the bad guys.... I guess Obama has a plan how we're going to take on the bad guys, when good guys have no guns to defend.......Has anyone asked him THAT question? |
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If for some reason you don't think this isn't going to be a city by county by state by federal by international fight the rest of your life then you are fooling yourself.
The ups and downs of guns, ammo and parts notwithstanding.
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Of course no PMags, but mags seem to relitively easy to find. |
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When I asked ppl what to invest in and they told me "guns and ammo", I did. And so did a lot of ppl.
So now is the time when the investment is worth it. This is WHY we invested in guns and ammo, for when everybody wanted them for higher prices. I don't see the problem here. I haven't sold anything, but at least what I have has value instead of just being a hedge against inflation. Prices will stay where they are as long as states keep enacting laws or politicians keep talking about it. Guns and ammo only devalued after Obama was first inaugurated in 2009 when guns weren't discussed for over a year. |
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I even got a bunch of stuff the week after Sandy hook, low price, plenty of stock no problem. I hope I planned accordingly, cause I think the ammo/components I have is going to have to last all year.... |
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http://sgcusa.com/tax-refund-sale/dp...6-30round.html |
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The runs on guns, ammo, and mags will ease. All bubbles go through the sames phase because they have the same cause are tied to the emotions of fear and greed, supply and demand, and ROI and capital sources and investment alternatives. I beleive this one is near the peak and the speculators are getting nervous that a free-fall end is coming. Just be patient and don't take your eye off our state and federal legislators. I fear we'll need the courts in the PRK to stop anything Brown doesn't veto (if he vetoes anything at all this round).
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Demand is still high. When it drops off, and it will, the prices will normalize. The question is, in California, can YOU wait for it to normalize before stupid laws get passed and implemented. |
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Looks like Obummer & Bloomberg are not ready to give up
http://www.buzzfeed.com/evanmcsan/ob...gun-control-fi |
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We are not out even close to being of the woods yet.
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