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San Jose PD CCW info
The main advantage of living in a city that issues is you get "two bites at the apple": you can apply with your city's PD. If you're denied, you can then try again with the Sheriff's Office.
San Jose PD issues. Under "Records", there's a column on the left side that's title "Related Information". One of them is "CCW Procedures" (Besides us gunnies, does the average resident know what "CCW" stands for?) That takes you to a page with the following: Quote:
I added the numbers in brackets to the above statement re. GC to make it clear all of the conditions that must be present simultaneously for your GC to pass. It's basically CA AG John Van de Kamp's 1970s opinion on GC. Depending upon how tightly/loosely it is interpreted, it would be either dark or light red on the CA CCW GC map. To get a GC determination you have to have a $150 psych eval + pay a $20 application fee. If your GC passes, you have to pay another $80 for permit processing to get your CCW. Under Records, and then under just "Public Safety Permit Fee Schedule" (I had to reformat it since I can't do tabs.) Quote:
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Santa Clara Co. city PDs re. CCWs
The main advantage of living in a city that issues is you get "two bites at the apple": you can apply with your city's PD. If you're denied, you can then try again with the Sheriff's Office.
The Town of Los Gatos/Monte Sereno PD issues CCWs Unfortunately, there's no info re. their GC standard. Probably very restrictive. Quote:
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The main advantage of living in a city that issues is you get "two bites at the apple": you can apply with your city's PD. If you're denied, you can then try again with the Sheriff's Office.
Campbell PD issues and had information https://www.ci.campbell.ca.us/522/Permits Quote:
No info on Gilroy PD website: http://www.cityofgilroy.org/151/Police-Department No info on Los Altos PD website: https://www.losaltosca.gov/police/page/forms-permits Los Altos Hills uses the SO: http://www.losaltoshills.ca.gov/222/Public-Safety No info on Milipitas PD website: http://www.ci.milpitas.ca.gov/milpit...tments/police/ No info on Morgan Hill PD website: http://www.morgan-hill.ca.gov/129/Police Mountain View PD issues CCWs and had this minimal info: https://www.mountainview.gov/depts/p...fo/permits.asp Quote:
See: https://www.mountainview.gov/civicax...px?blobid=7279 No info on Palo Alto PD website: https://www.cityofpaloalto.org/gov/d...ol/default.asp Saratoga uses the SO: https://www.saratoga.ca.us/195/Sheriffs-Office No info on City of Santa Clara's PD website. http://santaclaraca.gov/government/d...ice-department No info on Sunnyvale PD website: https://sunnyvale.ca.gov/government/safety/default.htm
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You can try but I highly doubt they will issue you a permit.
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At least that's what the law says.
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I tried applying to Monterey County for a non-resident 90 days work permit. They denied me. They said I didn’t qualify the residency requirement and told me to apply to Santa Clara. Why would any anti CCW PD or SO issue to a non-resident when they won’t even issue to their own? Monterey is shall issue. I’m referring to the PD and SO of the Bay Area.
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Many IAs do not issue the 90 day business permits even though they can.
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Do you know if SJPD issues a little more leniently than the Santa Clara SO?
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If you have a very good GC (e.g., stalker who's been reported to the police and restraining order granted or you carry lots of cash due to your business and have been attacked in the past (and reported)), then I'd go for it. Apply first with SJPD and if you're denied (and denied after appealing your initial denial), apply and do the same with Santa Clara SO. (I'd wait until after the Nov 6th election re. SCSO: If Smith wins, apply whenever you're done with SJPD. If she loses, apply after January w/Hirokawa.) See the advice I gave phdo in post #731 and following at:https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/...352799&page=19 In another thread, IIRC the main Santa Clara Co. CCW Info thread, I went back 4 years and could not find a single applicant who's app wasn't dependent upon us winning Peruta. IOW, we're all operating off of ignorance re. SCSO/Smith's issuance practices. Similarly, I don't recall anyone in the past 4 years saying they applied with SJPD. So, you place your bets, you take your chances -- or not.
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Morgan Hill PD
This is my first post here, but thought I'd add that Morgan Hill does do CCW processing. I emailed the chief a while back and got this reply:
"We issue permits; however, the process requires the showing of good cause. Please contact Lisa Cardenas, copied here, for more information." Lisa's email is Lisa.Cardenas@morganhill.ca.gov I don't know what constitutes GC with them, but I'll be filing for one this week. Jon |
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Any links available for this? EDIT: Found the info on this Thanks Last edited by JonMorganHill; 11-06-2018 at 7:46 AM.. |
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I'm also preparing to apply for CCW with the Morgan a Hill police department.
As Jon noted above, they require a showing of good cause. Per their emailed requirements, they define good cause as: You must show good cause for the issuance of the permit. In Morgan Hill, good cause will be determined by information that there is reasonable cause to believe that a clear and present danger to the life of, or great bodily injury to, the applicant, spouse, children, or other members of the immediate family exists which cannot be mitigated by alternative forms of intervention |
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I encourage anyone who's applying to any Issuing Agency that is not "dark green" to read the first 3 posts in my thread of California CCW Application Advice thread pinned at to of this forum: it can help you and won't hurt you. Why face needless risks with your application?
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s....php?t=1482924 Share the link with family, friends, shooting buddies, etc.
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Unless anyone else has spoken with Chief Sellers about this, it's probably something that needs to be revisited. I will ask around, but the last time I placed an inquiry, it went unanswered.
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No. Permits may only be issued by a sheriff (PC 26150) or a "chief or other head of a municipal police department of any city or city and county) (PC 26155). A University Police Department is not a "municipal police department of a city or county."
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Paladin,
Have you checked to see how many CCW permits have actually been issued by San Jose PD and the other agencies cited? The reason I ask is that the issuance criteria published on the websites gives the impression of being supportive of issuance, but the provision where the applicant is presented with a threat that "cannot be alleviated by other means" is pretty much a proverbial "kiss of death." That same terminology is used in Los Angeles County to cause the near universal denial of applications. When you think about, there are alternative means to mitigating just about any threat, not the least of which is to hire a bodyguard.
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Milpitas
Update for Milpitas: found the MPD Policy Manual for 2019. Took the relevant pages - see attached PDF.
What's positive is their supposed determination re. Good Cause, which is at least a lot more open than "cannot be alleviated through other means" (i.e. San Jose). Quote:
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Sometimes an IA issues more liberally than the stated acceptable GC on their website.
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https://www.santaclaraca.gov/home/showdocument?id=65509 Quote:
On further consideration, isn't the above in violation of CA state law? If the City chief enters into a MOU with the County, then the County Sheriff is the IA... but the City can't selectively be IA only for their own officers, right? Relevant CA Penal Code section 26150: https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/f...ctionNum=26150
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Santa Clara PD Chief is elected.
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SCC CCW *326 Days* Application: 2/27/2023 ($72.33) Original Interview: 12/21@1030|Actual: 4/13@0900 'Informal" email Background complete: 9/19 Email to schedule Psych: 10/27@1539 ($150) Psych Test: 11/3@0800|Psych Interview: 11/9@0900 (Dr.McKenzie) LiveScan: 11/9 (UPS Store $93+$25)|Livescan cleared: CA/FBI 11/9, Firearms 11/20 LiveScan Email: 11/17@0842 Training Email: 11/29@1007|Instructor: 1/10/2024 SaberTactics ($399+40)|Docs: 1/12 Approval: 1/17@1346 ($264+$7.96)|Pickup: 1/19@1030 |
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Really? With sheriffs, the June primary usually decides who wins. If no one gets >50%, the Nov election is a runoff. Is that the same with Santa Clara CoP? If so, who's in the runoff and what are their stances re. CCWs?
If you aren't already, you may want to contact: https://gs2ac.com/blogs/ They're also on FB, etc. You could probably find 2nd A activists there willing to help with SC CoP election even if they don't live in SC. Let us/me know how things go!
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