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Old 01-06-2014, 7:46 AM
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Hi Trap

Mine is a model 94 sn 1838493

1951 or 1952?
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Mine is a model 94 sn 1838493

1951 or 1952?
Made late in 1951, with 115,000 made that year.
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Hey Trap
Any source for a M97 16ga hammer? I'm looking at one but the hammer is trashed.
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Any source for a M97 16ga hammer? I'm looking at one but the hammer is trashed.
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Looking at this one, has patina for a finish, wood is decent but the hammer has been ground almost off, not sure why anyone would do that. $299 is the current price they have on it, it is a take down model, vintage 1907.

Would the 12ga hammer be the same as the 16ga?????
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Hammers are the same. Are ya sure it's a 1907?
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Hammers are the same. Are ya sure it's a 1907?
Only got a quick look and didn't write down the serial I know I shoulda got that but was late for a doctors appointment.

The Tag Said, Winchester 16ga "1907" $299
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You forgot to get the serial number? 30 lashes with a bore snake!
Speakin of a bore snake, take one with you and run it through the barrel. Then take a look with a bore light for pitting. Frosty pitting, meh, burnish and shoot. BB size or bigger craters, run away.
You'll have to swap the stirrup and pin on the hammers, and sometimes those pins can be a beotch to drive out. If it is, PM me for some tips to get it out.
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Hey trap, nice what you're doing on your time. I just came into a hybrid.
Sears Model 3T 22S-L- LR, serial #133xxx. Some have said it's a Winchester 190. Some say it's a savage. Some say a Ted Williams. All I know is it is like brand new! Awesome smooth action, gotta be a Winchester. Ideas? Internet search has me chasing my tail.
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Hey trap, nice what you're doing on your time. I just came into a hybrid.
Sears Model 3T 22S-L- LR, serial #133xxx. Some have said it's a Winchester 190. Some say it's a savage. Some say a Ted Williams. All I know is it is like brand new! Awesome smooth action, gotta be a Winchester. Ideas? Internet search has me chasing my tail.
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A Sears Model 3T is a Winchester 190.
There are two reasons why you'll never catch your tail!
To date, there is no serial number data on the Win Model 190 and 290.
On top of that, all the guns that Winchester made for store brands like Sears, Ted Williams, etc., all have a separate serial number from the Winchester serials, and there's no records of those either. Winchester didn't have them, and the stores they were made for don't have them.
I can tell you, that the 190 and 290, were made from 1963 to 1974, with a total of 2,171,263 made.
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Thanks Trap, I knew you would give a straight answer, as my tail kept getting shorter !! I was just curious as to what I got, don't need any parts, as like I said, this baby is like new! Can't wait to go out and run some rounds in her, the bolt works soooo smooth and chamber area has just a little dusting of powder. Just gonna give it a good once over, then off to the range. Again thanks for the confirmation.
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Hey Trap...My fathers model 94 30-30 Winchester sn 2738463 found its way back to me...I used to deer hunt with this rifle many years ago when I was a young buck. What can you tell me???
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Hey Trap...My fathers model 94 30-30 Winchester sn 2738463 found its way back to me...I used to deer hunt with this rifle many years ago when I was a young buck. What can you tell me???
Serial number 2,600,500 was the last one made in 1963, and that's where my data ends. Serial number 3,000,000 was assembled in 1970.
My best WAG would be 1967-68?
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Thanks for reply, I talked to my mom and she is sure dad owned rifle when they sold a house and bought the house my mom owns now and that was back in 1967. Its "Green grass and high tides forever" for dad so I'll have to catch him later
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Win 1897 E 795xxx

1928 according to one source.
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1928 according to one source.
Made Jan-Feb of 1925, with12,205 made that year.
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Made Jan-Feb of 1925, with12,205 made that year.
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Trapp55 i was wondering if u know anything on a model 54 sears 30-30 serial #001838. Has the yellow wood. Shoots great but i want to darkin up wood. Is that a do or dont? Thank you for your time
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Trap55, first thank you for sharing this great knowledge. Second, do you have any information on a model 1890, serial number is 368726? It is a .22 short chambered takedown model rifle.
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Trapp55 i was wondering if u know anything on a model 54 sears 30-30 serial #001838. Has the yellow wood. Shoots great but i want to darkin up wood. Is that a do or dont? Thank you for your time
I posted on your other thread.
The Sears Model 54 is a Winchester Model 94, made for Sears. The serial numbers were separate from Winchester serial numbers, and there is no known data reference for them.
There is no real collector value on them, so restore away.
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Trap55, first thank you for sharing this great knowledge. Second, do you have any information on a model 1890, serial number is 368726? It is a .22 short chambered takedown model rifle.
Made in 1908, with 48,059 made that year.
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Hi Trap55; I have become the owner of two model 94's in the last week or so, one is serial number 950854 which I beleive is 1923, the second is serail 1324638 which falls in the '42 to '44 range if what I've garnered from this thread is correct? The 1923 had the metal "etched" somehow in the past but is still a looker with the elevated rear sight. The newer one is in fair condition but the price was right, Thanks in advance, Larry
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Hi Trap55; I have become the owner of two model 94's in the last week or so, one is serial number 950854 which I beleive is 1923, the second is serail 1324638 which falls in the '42 to '44 range if what I've garnered from this thread is correct? The 1923 had the metal "etched" somehow in the past but is still a looker with the elevated rear sight. The newer one is in fair condition but the price was right, Thanks in advance, Larry
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Serial # 950854 was made about Nov of 1922, with 15,722 made that year.
Serial # 1324638 was made in late 1940, with 43,398 made that year.
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Hello Trap55, thank you for curating this great information.

I recently acquired an 1897 serial # E578222 and a Model 94 serial # 2447459. I was thinking 1914 and 1960 respectively. How'd I do?
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Thanks Trap; Man, that was some fast info. I have the 1965 '94 I bought when 18 yo for $75.00 but could not pass up on these two beauties as one has to wonder where it has been, who loved it, and the stories that cold be told. Thanks again from all of us who inquire and are lucky enough to have you to ask, Larry
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Hello Trap55, thank you for curating this great information.

I recently acquired an 1897 serial # E578222 and a Model 94 serial # 2447459. I was thinking 1914 and 1960 respectively. How'd I do?
Ty, your Model 1897 serial # E578222 was made in early 1913, with 34,688 made that year.
Model 94 serial # 2447459 was made about Dec of 1960.
You're batting .500.
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Hey TRAP55

Stumbled across this wonderful thread by accident, but I happen to have a Winchester model '94 serial # 2324644

Guessing late 50's by looking at your previous postings...

Any info would be appreciated!

Thanks for your time!
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Stumbled across this wonderful thread by accident, but I happen to have a Winchester model '94 serial # 2324644

Guessing late 50's by looking at your previous postings...

Any info would be appreciated!

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Serial # 2324644 was made in Jan/Feb of 1959, with 65,500 made that year.
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Hi Trap, one more for you: Mod. 1894 - 120512
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Made in 1901, with 33,126 made that year.
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Howdy Trapp55!!!! I've been trolling lately but I thought I'd tell what I just got......model 86 in 38-70!!! Only 830 made in that caliber!!! Yeah that's me doing that happy dance!! Hope all is well.
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Hey Trap; Went right bye you today on the way to Sacto to pick up the 1940 '94. It's in very good condition 60% blue left, all stock. The thing I noticed was the forearm band is held on with a rivet (old) not a screw, is that the way they did it sometimes??? The guy also threw in 2 boxes of ammo, one is Winchester Silvertips 170 gr (full box) in a mint box with a Grizzly on the box which from the internet tells me it's from the '40's, one site was asking $125.00 for the full box. The other is a box of Sportload (Staklean) 170gr (Red box) also in great condition sold by Sears & Roebuck also FULL. I still looking for info on the Sportload on the web. All in all I'm really pleased with this deal, Thanks again for your help, Larry
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Manny, no pics? You're still trolling!
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Hey Trap; Went right bye you today on the way to Sacto to pick up the 1940 '94. It's in very good condition 60% blue left, all stock. The thing I noticed was the forearm band is held on with a rivet (old) not a screw, is that the way they did it sometimes??? The guy also threw in 2 boxes of ammo, one is Winchester Silvertips 170 gr (full box) in a mint box with a Grizzly on the box which from the internet tells me it's from the '40's, one site was asking $125.00 for the full box. The other is a box of Sportload (Staklean) 170gr (Red box) also in great condition sold by Sears & Roebuck also FULL. I still looking for info on the Sportload on the web. All in all I'm really pleased with this deal, Thanks again for your help, Larry
I'm home all day, you could've stopped and showed it off! Should be a band screw, no rivets. Somebody probably lost the screw, or stripped the threads in the band. If the threads are okay, Tapadera has the screw.
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Trap, is there any way of dating a Model 67 with no SN? I pick it up next Tuesday.
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Hi Trap; I can see where the thread side of the band is waaaay bigger then it should be so it was a repair of some sort. The person did a good job though and so I will leave it alone, it's real tight and if its held for this long why mess with it. If the forearm ever needs to come off then that would have to change, Thanks again for an answer though, Have a good one, Larry
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Trap, is there any way of dating a Model 67 with no SN? I pick it up next Tuesday.
Nope, sorry Dutch. Models 64 through Models 679 were not serial numbered. The 67 was made from 1934 to 1963, with a total of 652,538 rifles made.
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