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Old 12-07-2009, 1:34 PM
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don't mean to hijack here, but how accurate is the Saiga .308 compared to the M1A?





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Old 12-07-2009, 6:22 PM
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Default Saia Converted this Weekend

Not quite finished yet, but it's CA legal.
Mag lock installed and folder mechanism is disabled to maintain legal minimum lenght.

Can't believe I worried about converting. It was a great project and the improvement in the trigger alone is worth the effort.



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Hey 4thSBCT...great photo..what's the length of the muzzle device? I need to add overall length so I'm not below 30 inches when folded...thanks?
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don't mean to hijack here, but how accurate is the Saiga .308 compared to the M1A?
Havent really put them up against each other back to back at 100yds..

THey're both sighted in a 25 and it's pretty much the same thing
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heres mine 762 and 12
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close to complete...still need to do the paint job.
Galil foregrip with 10 round Saiga magazine
Galil foregrip with 10/35 Galil mag (no bullet guide yet, so I haven't tried firing it)
Love this conversion!.
IF YOU OWN A SAIGA, CONVERT IT! YOU WILL LOVE IT!






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Looks great!
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its a long barrel 308 Saiga rifle..
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Sherm2954 - Ditch the dust cover rail. Its not a stable platform for an optic. Go with either a beryl or side mounted rail.
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I have a side mounted rail...just need to zero the red dot on it....i appreciate the input, as i'm a neophyte to the ak but always willing to listen!!!!!
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What did you use for the hanguard retainer?
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the handguard is a tapco galil-style with a metal retainer that has a bolt that runs through the front and tightens it in place. There is a second screw at the rear base that goes where the original saiga screw goes. Here's another photo...btw...i got the foregrip off ebay used...i admit that i'm cheap, but why would i spend 80 bucks when i can spend 40 and still buy more ammo?

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the handguard is a tapco galil-style with a metal retainer that has a bolt that runs through the front and tightens it in place. There is a second screw at the rear base that goes where the original saiga screw goes. Here's another photo...btw...i got the foregrip off ebay used...i admit that i'm cheap, but why would i spend 80 bucks when i can spend 40 and still buy more ammo?
Thanks for the answer. And, I totally agree. I'm all for shooting a rifle instead of accessorizing it.

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Drool.
This is a .308 right?

Can you use 7.62x39 parts for the conversion?
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Drool.
This is a .308 right?
Yes sir. That poor thing is just screaming out for a friggin muzzle brake though.

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Can you use 7.62x39 parts for the conversion?
Not sure what you mean. It has a US made AK stock, a US made AK pistol grip, and a US made AK fire control group. The hammer has to be modified to work in the .308 Saiga however.
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Yes sir. That poor thing is just screaming out for a friggin muzzle brake though.
I'm sure it's a beast to shoot.

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Not sure what you mean. It has a US made AK stock, a US made AK pistol grip, and a US made AK fire control group. The hammer has to be modified to work in the .308 Saiga however.
You answered my question. What modification was required for the hammer? Easy/simple?
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I'm sure it's a beast to shoot.



You answered my question. What modification was required for the hammer? Easy/simple?
Pretty simple...with a dremel.
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=255455
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Tom, what do you use on your conversions to retain the axis pins? Shepherds Crook? Retaining plate? or Hitch pins?
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Tom, what do you use on your conversions to retain the axis pins? Shepherds Crook? Retaining plate? or Hitch pins?
Retaining plate. Red Star Arms style.
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Retaining plate. Red Star Arms style.
Thanks for the tip. I found that its half the price of the one from Krebs. Heres the link for anyone else interested.
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ok wait... i was told that you cant put a pistol grip on a saiga. can someone clarify please?
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ok wait... i was told that you cant put a pistol grip on a saiga. can someone clarify please?
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that didnt help at all
If you put a pistol grip on a stock Saiga, you will be a felon....

Now you can turn your Saiga into a fixed mag rifle by installing a bullet button and then you can have a pistol grip. Personally, I'd rather have the ability to drop mags without messing around with all that BB stuff, so Im not a fan of putting pistol grips on Saigas..

Speaking of Saigas, I just put a different optic on mine..
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If you put a pistol grip on a stock Saiga, you will be a felon....

Now you can turn your Saiga into a fixed mag rifle by installing a bullet button and then you can have a pistol grip. Personally, I'd rather have the ability to drop mags without messing around with all that BB stuff, so Im not a fan of putting pistol grips on Saigas..
You can "convert" your Saiga and still have a drop free mag without any maglock. All you need is to replace the pistol grip with one of these:



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Check out my converted Calilegal 18'' Saiga .308. There's nothing wrong leaving in the sporting conf., but i chose to tacticool mine: (Tapco G2, pistol grip and stock/Solar Tactical maglock/10rd surefire mag/DPH rail/Texas Weapon System dogg rail with rear peepsight...ROCK SOLID!/FSC 30 muzzle brake...it's obnoxiously LOUD and really tame this beast/4-16X50 vortex optic). New harris bipod coming soon.

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Check out my converted Calilegal 18'' Saiga .308. There's nothing wrong leaving in the sporting conf., but i chose to tacticool mine: (Tapco G2, pistol grip and stock/Solar Tactical maglock/10rd surefire mag/DPH rail/Texas Weapon System dogg rail with rear peepsight...ROCK SOLID!/FSC 30 muzzle brake...it's obnoxiously LOUD and really tame this beast/4-16X50 vortex optic). New harris bipod coming soon.

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Nice! Been looking to put the "Dog Leg" rail on mine. How do you like it? Did you get it from Tac47?
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Thanks vin. This rail is very sturdy, no play at all with the scope I'm using (4-16X50). Just make sure you use the bigger screw that came with it. Also, the rear peepsight aligns very well with the frontsight with minor adjustment...nice grouping at 50yds. I got the TWS from JABTAC.
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