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Old 07-30-2018, 7:20 PM
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Are you referring to the 1000 yard distance one must maintain yea that would be kinda hard in a place like LA ?

With all these 2A "wins" I wonder if we will hear anything on the handgun roster soon
1000ft, and yes.
There are maps available that show restricted and unrestricted areas in some of the major metropolitan areas like LA and SF.
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I don't know about any other of you San Diego County residents, but it seems like Gore is almost as tight as he was before. There are a couple new "justifiable" categories, but overall he's pretty restrictive.

https://sandiegocountygunowners.com/...heet-SDCGO.pdf
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please forgive me if this has been answered, i have not been on this forum much lately because i dislike forums on an android and only go to forums with my hardly used laptop.
Anyway, is open carry or loaded/unloaded car carry now legal in CA?
I often cross unmarked borders into CA with a loaded revolver ( a sweet S&W 625 )

thanks, and i apologize for asking a question that has probably been talked about , to death, already.
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Anyway, is open carry or loaded/unloaded car carry now legal in CA?
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please forgive me if this has been answered, i have not been on this forum much lately because i dislike forums on an android and only go to forums with my hardly used laptop.
Anyway, is open carry or loaded/unloaded car carry now legal in CA?....
No.

First, Young isn't final yet.

Second, Young addressed only Hawaii law. It therefore doesn't automatically apply to any other law. Depending on how things finally turn out, it's possible that a final, favorable ruling can then be used to successfully attack California law.
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Old 08-05-2018, 8:35 PM
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thanks, I'm sad I still can't carry but remain hopefull.
calguns is awesome.
I sure do miss the old highroad b4 the split with oleg tho.
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So how much longer does Hawaii/other judge have to challenge the ruling ?
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So how much longer does Hawaii/other judge have to challenge the ruling ?
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s....php?t=1424391

Check out this thread

HI was granted an extension which I believe was 45 days to request en banc review by the 9th...
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http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s....php?t=1424391

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HI was granted an extension which I believe was 45 days to request en banc review by the 9th...
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Good breakdown of what happened:

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Because permitless OC is not a win in California metropolitan areas due to PC626.9.
California's GFSZ requires a win for "permitted" carry... whether OC or CCW.
Maybe, but when a law like the GFSZ places such broad restrictions on a core constitutional right that effectively render it meaningless for millions of Americans, it is itself subject to challenge under the principles laid out in Young v. Hawaii.
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Because permitless OC is not a win in California metropolitan areas due to PC626.9.
California's GFSZ requires a win for "permitted" carry... whether OC or CCW.
You not foresee a challenge to a gun free school zone that amounts to an arbitrary line 1000 feet away from a school campus that does not control or regulate entry via security or metal detectors?

If open carry is the core of the right to bear in public, then 626.9 stands in the way of the right to bear in public in the same way Hawaii prevents carry by not issuing any carry licenses at all. I'd challenge this personally.
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Maybe, but when a law like the GFSZ places such broad restrictions on a core constitutional right that effectively render it meaningless for millions of Americans, it is itself subject to challenge under the principles laid out in Young v. Hawaii.
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You not foresee a challenge to a gun free school zone that amounts to an arbitrary line 1000 feet away from a school campus that does not control or regulate entry via security or metal detectors?

If open carry is the core of the right to bear in public, then 626.9 stands in the way of the right to bear in public in the same way Hawaii prevents carry by not issuing any carry licenses at all. I'd challenge this personally.
Of course, and if the court does its job, it will be overturned.
But if the courts did their job, that would have happened years ago.
Remember, this was the same presiding judge that ruled in our favor on Peruta. Hawaii will most likely call for en banc.
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