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So, I saw yesterday that Sheriff Freitas has announced that he is retiring on August 1st. That means that it will be an open seat with no incumbent running in the next election. We really should be working to find someone to run for Sheriff that is pro-2A. Last time he was re-elected with no competition shortly after all the angst over the Andy Lopez incident. That was a missed opportunity. Know anyone in law enforcement that fits the bill and might be willing to run?
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Any word on who's stepping in to complete his term? Aug 1st is just 2 1/2 weeks away. If you Sonoma folk want things to improve re. CCWs, now's the time to organize and act! I'd LOVE to see Sonoma go from light red to light green.
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From: https://patch.com/california/sonomav...ces-retirement
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For inspiration, look to SD Co: http://sandiegocountygunowners.com/ Looks like they've got a viable candidate for sheriff: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s....php?t=1340431 The deadline for sheriff's candidates, IIRC, is late Jan or early Feb: just 5 months away. Quote:
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Popping in to say hello. Left Santa Rosa for Vermont in 2013
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Best place to pop in to say hello to 707 folk is at:
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s....php?t=1290727
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Will the new sheriff be better?
Any information or input for a prefered sheriff of the 4 Sonoma county candidates ?
Are any of them open to firearms community concerns? i apologize for poor posting technique. |
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Concealed carry isn't a question for them. That's already been decided. They're bringing in people who will vote for them. People from countries that don't have liberty. Where they've been abused by oppressive government for generations. And this invasion will lead to a build up of political power. Power kept by the politicians using the Sheriff's use of force as their extension. Why would they willingly allow a resistance to that force? Only a constitutionalist would. I refuse to vote for this. If I voted I would be making this acceptable. Voting for the lessor of evils legitimizes the government that will destroy you some day. #NotMySheriffElection |
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Time and place?
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I'd guess most CAians -- and even most CA gun owners -- still don't even know they could get CCWs if their elected sheriff wanted. Don't treat those voters as enemies, but as uninformed/misinformed friends. Quote:
If so, I'd start by informing the audience that "in 42 out of 50 states, if you are otherwise qualified, you apply and they 'Shall Issue' you a CCW permit" while showing the first graphic below. Then I'd say "in CA, where we are May Issue, each of the 58 sheriffs decide how difficult it is to get a CCW, whether to accept 'self-defense' as sufficient 'Good Cause.' As the graphic illustrates, in most CA counties, sheriffs readily issue CCWs whereas in only 14 counties, sheriffs do not readily issue CCWs. The counties that readily issue vary from rural, like Mendocino and Lake, to mixed, like Solano and Sacramento, to urban, like Orange. Yet none of them have had problems with CCW holders. "My question for each of you is will you switch Sonoma from rarely issuing to readily issuing CCWs so that we can exercise our 2nd Amendment Right to Bear Arms to defend ourselves, and if not, why not?" The sheriffs candidates will likely say they have to follow the courts and the courts have not said there is a right to carry or that they must issue for "self-defense." While true, that is a diversion: the courts also have NOT said they CANNOT accept "self-defense" as sufficient Good Cause either. It is up to each county sheriff to decide. If the forum allows you to follow up, be ready for that. If not, have another person behind you ready to follow up with that. Don't let them off of the hook by making it seem like their hands are tied by the courts. Sonoma folk need to realize if they want CCWs, they will have to fight to get them! You folks in Sonoma Co/"707 Banter" may have to organize your own PAC just like CGNers have done in San Diego Co http://sandiegocountygunowners.com/ Because of them, they now have a Dem front runner contender who is pro-CCW and has on their platform that they'll issue CCWs for Self-Defense as Good Cause. Sheriff Gore, the Repub incumbent, is being pressured to liberalize his CCW policy if he wants another term in office. Go and do likewise!
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I won't fight because I can't win. There's no voter ID laws and the number one issue for this election is ignoring imigration laws.
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Be sure to tell San Diego Co Gun Owners PAC trying to get a pro-CCW sheriff is a lost cause. They don't realize that because top Dem sheriff candidate is pro-Shall Issue for CCWs. Sure, he's also pro-illegal aliens (and "diversity"), but since the federal government controls the borders and border control, they're focusing on what a sheriff can do for them: issue CCWs for "self-defense" as Good Cause. But, that requires actually fighting/work, not posting.... And since you "won't fight", I won't bother replying to you again. I don't want to waste my valuable time and effort on those not willing to fight for CCWs. You are now on my Ignore List. For the peace of CalGuns, I encourage you to do the same with me.
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Freitas was pro issue for his election. What's that gotten us? Two weeks where he was actually issuing and none of that was part of an election promise. The way to win is to run our own candidate.
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Is this still on or has it been rescheduled due to the devastating fires?
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Any idea for when?
IIRC, the cutoff date for sheriffs candidates applying to be on the ballot is the end of January. The election is early June. Runoff, if necessary, is early Nov.
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"Our next speaker series will take place on Wednesday, January 31st. That event will be our sheriff candidate forum. Four people are running for the position of Sonoma County Sheriff. This forum was originally scheduled for October but was cancelled because of the fires. Come and join us to meet the candidates and hear what they have to say." |
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Just over a month until the 4 Sonoma County sheriff candidates will speak and have a Q&A period. As the Boy Scouts teach: "Be Prepared!" Be sure to also make sure the folks in "707 Banter" in the Off Topic forum know about this ASAP and make plans to be there. I want you folks to be able to get CA CCWs and to make Sonoma County "yellow" or, much better, "light green" in the map below after your new sheriff takes office in Jan 2019.
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Best just to act like a professional negotiator: find out why each individual is anti CCW, show them where what they fear, why they're against CCWs is mistaken, and why they should be pro. Best way to do that is by being a representative of a county PAC that has several hundred members who are law-abiding voters and focused on this one issue. The facts/data are either on our side or inconclusive. In the 30+ years since CCW reform stated nationwide, NOT ONE state has gone from less restrictive to more restrictive issuance. Every year every state has that choice, yet NONE of them have taken it. NONE of their CLEO orgs are pushing for it. That speaks volumes. Look at the CA CCW GC map I've posted: even within CA, more and more counties & cities are issuing and again, NONE of them are switching from less restrictive to more restrictive. Sonoma Co is almost surrounded by counties that readily issue: Mendo, Lake, and Solano. Even Napa, when you look at its numbers, issues at 2x the rate of Solano Co, so it isn't truly "anti-CCW." These sheriff candidates need to justify their anti positions just like we need to have facts/data and reasons to support our pro-CCW position. I doubt they do. I'm sure a LOT of Sonoma residents, when they had to quickly flee with their valuables stuffed in their vehicles, would have LOVED to be able to CCW to protect their vulnerable valuables and themselves. That's a possible argument to use to get Sonoma folks to join the cause and a local organization. Just look to San Diego county and the San Diego County Gun Owners PAC for inspiration (and advice): they've gotten Sheriff Gore to say he'll issue more CCWs! While Gore will probably only take SD from light red to yellow on the map, that is an improvement and maybe, once he's comfortable with that for a few years, he or his successor will be comfortable enough to go to light green. A small, but dedicated and focused group of activist can make real change happen. See: http://sandiegocountygunowners.com/ http://sandiegocountygunowners.com/ccw/ and http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/f...play.php?f=295 Plus, you can look into getting your city PD's to issue CCWs. fjold, a former CGN member in Santa Barbara county (dark red, worse than Sonoma Co), spent 4 years to get his city PD to start issuing CCWs and got his! But change won't happen without the Sonoma Co folk stepping up and making it happen.
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You Sonoma folk have got to tell the sheriff candidates that you were extremely vulnerable when you had to suddenly flee in your vehicles with all of your most valuable possessions. In such situations, living in temporary quarters or hotels/motels, having a CCW so that you could defend yourselves & your family from those who would steal your property would have been invaluable.
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http://www.pressdemocrat.com/news/78...chased?sba=AAS The article makes it sound like Sonoma Co IAs require you complete the training course BEFORE they'll decide whether you have sufficient GC or not. If so, that violates CA state law. If they are doing that, someone should contact the Sonoma Co Grand Jury to have them look into the application process to ensure all relevant laws are being obeyed.... http://sonoma.courts.ca.gov/info/adm...ion/grand-jury See also: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...352761&page=20
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Thanks. That's what I figured. The reporter just doesn't realize the implications and importance of the order of the things he listed.
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Was it reported upon by local media?
Did you hear from others how it went? Anything re. CCWs?
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All three candidates participated. I was not able to go as I have moved out of state, but I spoke with two friends that attended and they both said Mark Essick is the clear choice. He stated that if elected he would make Sonoma County a "shall issue" county. Now I know that talk is cheap especially with politicians, but if the others don't even talk pro carry then the choice seems easy.
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Be sure to post this info in the Off Topic forum's "707 Banter" thread. You may get members and/or leaders for your friends' group there. Their future is in their own hands. If they want CCWs in CA, they have to be willing to fight for them.
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I was there and I agree with this:
Thankfully, it seems that most of the current Sheriff force are supporting Essick. Hopefully he said what he believed (regarding supporting shall issue) and didn't change his message for the crowd. The other two are definitely on the wrong side with this and other issues. Someone did videotape the forum. I haven't heard yet if it's available anywhere. Unfortunately, we have office rent to pay, and these fundraising meetings are one way we pay our bills. |
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