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Old 10-20-2020, 8:48 AM
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Default Calif/Newsom's holiday gatherings Covid edict

Have you all got the new normal rules straight for this years Thanksgiving and Christmas ? No cheating now.

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Old 10-20-2020, 8:47 PM
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We are planning to have all the family and friends over for a fiery but peacefull protest. It’s been proven that Covid is not spread that way.
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Old 10-20-2020, 10:10 PM
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We are planning to have all the family and friends over for a fiery but peacefull protest. It’s been proven that Covid is not spread that way.
Well... maybe not 'proven.' However, if you conform to the parameters allowed by our beneficent State authorities...

Guidance For Private Gatherings - 10/9/20, California Department of Public Health

Now, according to the State's... California ALL Q&A (updated 10/16/20) under "protected activities" where the question is "Can I engage in political protest gatherings?"...

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Yes, although in-person protests present special public health concerns.

Even with adherence to physical distancing, bringing members of different households together to engage in in-person protest carries a higher risk of widespread transmission of COVID-19. Such gatherings may result in increased rates of infection, hospitalization, and death, especially among more vulnerable populations. In particular, activities like chanting, shouting, singing, and group recitation negate the risk-reduction achieved through 6 feet of physical distancing. For this reason, people engaging in these activities should wear face coverings at all times.

Therefore, it is strongly recommended that those exercising their right to engage in political expression (including, for example, their right to petition the government) should utilize alternative channels, such as the many online and broadcasting platforms available in the digital age, in place of in-person gatherings.

However, state public health directives do not prohibit in-person outdoor protests as long as you maintain a physical distance of 6 feet between persons or groups of persons from different households at all times. When you can’t maintain a safe physical distance of 6 feet from people not in your household, you must wear a face covering or mask. Local Health Officers are advised to consider appropriate limitations on outdoor attendance capacities, factoring their jurisdiction’s key COVID-19 health indicators. Failure to follow these requirements may result in an order to disperse or other enforcement action. Masks and face coverings are strongly recommended.

In counties in the Widespread (purple) tier, indoor protests are not currently permitted. In other counties, state public health directives do not prohibit in-person indoor protests as long as (1) attendance is limited as required by the relevant restrictions on places of worship, (2) physical distancing of 6 feet between persons or groups of persons from different households is maintained at all times, and (3) singing and chanting activities are discontinued. Failure to follow these requirements may result in an order to disperse or other enforcement action. Masks and face coverings are required in compliance with CDPH directives.

Participants must maintain a physical distance of 6 feet from any uniformed peace officers and other public safety personnel present, unless otherwise directed, and follow all other requirements and directives imposed by local health officers and law enforcement, or other applicable authorities.

This limitation on attendance will be reviewed regularly. This review will assess the impacts of these imposed limits on public health and provide further direction as part of a phased-in restoration of gatherings that implicate the First Amendment.
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Old 10-20-2020, 10:34 PM
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I for one am totally fine with Newsom's new edicts....

IF, and only IF....

He livestreams his entire day on both Thanksgiving and Christmas. You know, so we can all see how it is done by a professional.
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Old 10-20-2020, 10:43 PM
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F that nazi holiday hating gavin...
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And I just heard on the News that you don't have to wear a mask to vote, because it's against state election law, it is an exclusion, or is it a loophole?
This state is run like the Mad Hatters Tea Party
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Nobody listens any more.
A few TDS freakers here do, I guarantee it. They are writing down the edicts and pinning them to their doors to make sure they don't accidentally violate them and upset newsom.
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Tucker Carlson and Adam Carolla had something to say on the issue.

So has The Federalist... California Just Declared War On Thanksgiving With Kafka-Level Regulations

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...If these rules weren’t severe enough, the regulations also give “local health jurisdictions” permission to enforce even stricter rules. Which raises the question: how is this going to be enforced? Are neighbors going to be encouraged to rat each other out — as New York Mayor Bill de Blasio did — or is this just a political stunt with no real teeth?

Some of Newsom’s rules might be fine as recommendations or suggestions. It may be wise for certain families with at-risk members to follow some of these precautions this year. But that should be a decision left to individual families — not mandated by the state.
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How much do you want to bet the internet will be filled with pictures people take to show off their social distancing outdoor thanksgiving dinners? You know people will be posting them, everyone sitting in chairs six feet apart in the yard with masks on, "Happy Thanksgiving!"
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Sure, do whatever you guys want. Have your big Thanksgiving feast, SARS CoV2 be damned, celebrate with aunts and uncles and grandma and grandpa. Thump your chests and declare yourselves proud Americans that don't comply with the demands of tyrants. I doubt anybody will come to issue any citations unless you really peeve off your neighbors enough for them to report you.

Then, when the consequent spike occurs, I'm sure all of you will waving "Down with King Newscum" and "Sic Semper Tyrannis" flags, cursing him for reimposing lockdowns and closing bars. it's your life, and the lives of your family members first affected. just don't be surprised when the state starts turning purple-tier again.

Incidentally, this is the actual CA private gathering guidance text in all of its unreasonable horribleness:
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In general, the more people from different households a person interacts with at a gathering, the closer the physical interaction is, and the longer the interaction lasts, the higher the risk that a person with a COVID-19 infection, symptomatic or asymptomatic, may spread it to others. Public health studies have also shown that the risk of transmission is increased in indoor spaces, particularly when there isn't appropriate ventilation.[1] Unlike indoor spaces, wind and air in outdoor spaces can help reduce spread of the virus from one person to another.
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Sure, do whatever you guys want. Have your big Thanksgiving feast, SARS CoV2 be damned, celebrate with aunts and uncles and grandma and grandpa. Thump your chests and declare yourselves proud Americans that don't comply with the demands of tyrants. I doubt anybody will come to issue any citations unless you really peeve off your neighbors enough for them to report you.

Then, when the consequent spike occurs, I'm sure all of you will waving "Down with King Newscum" and "Sic Semper Tyrannis" flags, cursing him for reimposing lockdowns and closing bars. it's your life, and the lives of your family members first affected. just don't be surprised when the state starts turning purple-tier again.

Incidentally, this is the actual CA private gathering guidance text in all of its unreasonable horribleness:
A spike of... the common cold. Hard pass on the hand waving over here thanks.
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Old 10-21-2020, 10:00 AM
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Sure, do whatever you guys want. Have your big Thanksgiving feast, SARS CoV2 be damned, celebrate with aunts and uncles and grandma and grandpa. Thump your chests and declare yourselves proud Americans that don't comply with the demands of tyrants. I doubt anybody will come to issue any citations unless you really peeve off your neighbors enough for them to report you.

Then, when the consequent spike occurs, I'm sure all of you will waving "Down with King Newscum" and "Sic Semper Tyrannis" flags, cursing him for reimposing lockdowns and closing bars. it's your life, and the lives of your family members first affected. just don't be surprised when the state starts turning purple-tier again.

Incidentally, this is the actual CA private gathering guidance text in all of its unreasonable horribleness:
We will. Have been this entire time, so has everyone else I know. Surprisingly, nothing happened!
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This has nothing to do with Covid safety. Newsom wants to replace the family with "big brother"

Abolition of the family! ... The bourgeois family will disappear, in the course [of history] as its supplement [private property] disappears, and both will vanish with the destruction of capital.
- The Communist Manifesto, Chapter 2, Karl Marx & Friedrich Engels.

Are we learning yet???

Apparently the vast majority of us are painfully ignorant of history. God and family must be replaced by the State for a Communist/Socialist takeover to be successful. Newsom is not some harmless eccentric little man to be mocked. He is extremely dangerous. He intends a Communist-Socialist takeover.

Regarding Covid itself, Rules for Radicals, Rule# 9) The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself (Alinsky 1972: 129).
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My immediate family is more than three households. Newsom can do the other thing.
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I knew it people who sing Christmas songs and love God and Christ want to kill my grandma!!!!


Chronicles-1 16:23. Sing unto the LORD, all the earth; show forth from day to day his salvation. ***

*** I guess God forgot the Covid clause..


Sorry Duenor, I have a somewhat middle of the road approach on this , mainly because I do work in the inpatient setting and am fully aware of the devastation this has caused on those who are inflicted when it comes to the cytokine storm. July was quite bad in the Bay area, particularly the East Bay. Anyone who walks onto the covid floor will likely never say... "this is just the flu"

Having said that, everything in life, is a risk vs benefits approach. And even I have reached a point of if I haven't lived for God, I haven't lived. I'll be careful around the vulnerable but I can't stay locked up forever with slight chance that something bad might happen to me.

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Sure, do whatever you guys want. Have your big Thanksgiving feast, SARS CoV2 be damned, celebrate with aunts and uncles and grandma and grandpa. Thump your chests and declare yourselves proud Americans that don't comply with the demands of tyrants. I doubt anybody will come to issue any citations unless you really peeve off your neighbors enough for them to report you.

Then, when the consequent spike occurs, I'm sure all of you will waving "Down with King Newscum" and "Sic Semper Tyrannis" flags, cursing him for reimposing lockdowns and closing bars. it's your life, and the lives of your family members first affected. just don't be surprised when the state starts turning purple-tier again.

Incidentally, this is the actual CA private gathering guidance text in all of its unreasonable horribleness:
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There's been a number of members on this forum that have gotten sick. When they describe how they are feeling guys like you are all, "oh man, thoughts and prayers". But then in the same breath you refuse to do your part to reduce the spread of this disease, proudly telling anecdotes about how you scoff at the employees at Costco or stick it to the man by ripping off your mask as soon as you get in the door. I've posted the actual guidelines; I doubt you'll read them, because you probably prefer to simply repeat whatever misinformed opinion you recently heard that aligns with your view of the evil democrats, evil CCP, etc.

Sure, do whatever you want. More likely than not, no one is going to lift a finger to stop you. But I'm not bothered at all by your dislike of basic common sense responsibilities in response to a major infectious disease crisis.

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There's been a number of members on this forum that have gotten sick. When they describe how they are feeling guys like you are all, "oh man, thoughts and prayers". But then in the same breath you refuse to do your part to reduce the spread of this disease, proudly telling anecdotes about how you scoff at the employees at Costco or stick it to the man by ripping off your mask as soon as you get in the door. I've posted the actual guidelines; I doubt you'll read them, because you probably prefer to simply repeat whatever misinformed opinion you recently heard that aligns with your view of the evil democrats, evil CCP, etc.

Sure, do whatever you want. More likely than not, no one is going to lift a finger to stop you. But I'm not bothered at all by your dislike of basic common sense responsibilities in response to a major infectious disease crisis.

The people who got sick are fine now. Just like if they had the flu.
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It’s not a holiday family gathering. It’s a holiday family protest. Commiefornia has deemed protest legal.
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Some people need to be fearfull. It may require professional intervention.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/b...covid-19-virus
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It’s not a holiday family gathering. It’s a holiday family protest. Commiefornia has deemed protest legal.


well, technically thanksgiving was a protest against racism: white and indian people got together to coexist and eat a meal together


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duenor please let us know when we can come out of our houses and take our masked off!
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Happily trick or treating is business as usual this year here. Schools and Kids birthday parties as well.
Family gatherings also as usual.. Amusement parks all open with some restrictions.

We don't have a great nanny governor making these draconian decisions for us.

Newsom and Cuomo... Biden's Covid Tsars.

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duenor please let us know when we can come out of our houses and take our masked off!
You know his answer. When Trump is gone. So we’re stuck inside til 2024.
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duenor please let us know when we can come out of our houses and take our masked off!
NEVER!! IT COULD SAVE ONE LIFE!!!!
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