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Old 12-23-2012, 8:51 AM
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coffee can? or should i go buy those plastic pipes from Home Depot and cap them somehow?

how deep should i dig a hole?

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the world is getting crazy and i need an alternative place for my gun stuff ( like under ground )
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I'd use large PVC pipe and cap both ends use glue to keep moisture out. Use a saw when u need to get back in.
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use a ammo there air tight
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I would sell all your guns and ammo so you don't have to worry about hiding them from the MIB.
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I'd use large PVC pipe and cap both ends use glue to keep moisture out. Use a saw when u need to get back in.
Use nitrogen/argon to purge the air from your pvc tube before sealing. GTG.
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When it is time to bury your guns, it is time to dig them up.

Seriously, if you aren't going to use those guns to fight for your rights, then sell them to someone who will.

I would never want you as a neighbor. I can just hear your wife saying, "Hey dear, they are taking El Rojo off in a paddy wagon they are heading our way. What should we do?"

"Hide the guns! Whatever we do, we don't fight for our rights!"

Then they come to your door and ask where your guns are. You say, "I lost them in a boating accident."

They say, "Oh, well in that case, have a nice day." They definitely won't take you too and they definitely don't know from the state data base you have bought a hunting license for the last 20 years in a row and they definitely didn't seize the local gun shop's records and see you bought ammo recently.

Wake up people. The government should know you own guns and know you are not going to bury them, but use them!

And that is why they won't just take guns.
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I think it's prudent to not keep all your guns in one place. Burying some is an option. I'd use cosmoline. Also, you can have friends or family store them for you, in or out of state, lots of ideas out there. Check with some of the survivalist boards for more ideas.
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coffee can? or should i go buy those plastic pipes from Home Depot and cap them somehow?

how deep should i dig a hole?

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WHY have a Second Amendment if you won't fight for it?

Sell your siht now.

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coffee can? or should i go buy those plastic pipes from Home Depot and cap them somehow?

how deep should i dig a hole?

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the world is getting crazy and i need an alternative place for my gun stuff ( like under ground )
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I've seen what can happen to guns buried in PVC. It's not always pretty. Unless you are already experienced in long term storage of firearms, it's not worth the risk.
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OK tough guys.. i have a few rifles and i would like to bury some of them Just in Case.....

i will fight for my gun rights but not if there is a SWAT team at my door and i have my wife and kids at home... I will choose where and how to fight my battles..
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I've seen what can happen to guns buried in PVC. It's not always pretty. Unless you are already experienced in long term storage of firearms, it's not worth the risk.
thats why i amasking on HOW TO what do u recommend? any links online maybe?
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OK tough guys.. i have a few rifles and i would like to bury some of them Just in Case.....

i will fight for my gun rights but not if there is a SWAT team at my door and i have my wife and kids at home... I will choose where and how to fight my battles..
Because when SWAT teams come to your door, they usually leave you at home when they leave? Do they let you out on bail a few days later?

Give us a scenario where the SWAT team comes to your house and your buried guns do you any good at any time in the future?

Further, you ought to be the neighbor that sees the SWAT team coming to my house and you shoot at them from the side with the rest of the neighborhood up the street while the rest of the neighborhood down the street gets them from the other side.

And again, this is all from the perspective of the great gun grab fantasy where your conservative local SWAT officers decide to go door to door getting guns and you are the lone man left in America to preserve freedom. Yet, they will for some reason let you go later on when they don't find your buried guns?
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thats why i amasking on HOW TO what do u recommend? any links online maybe?
That's why I'm saying "DO NOT DO IT!" Now, if you want to pack everything in cosmoline, it will help a lot. However, you really should have been testing your own meathods out for the past 5-10 years before actually risking your firearms. Besides, there are plenty of stories about people who buried firearms, moved and forgot about digging them up until it was too late to recover them. It really isn't worth it. Burying them inside a wall or under the insulation in your attic would be a smarter thing to do.
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That's why I'm saying "DO NOT DO IT!" Now, if you want to pack everything in cosmoline, it will help a lot. However, you really should have been testing your own meathods out for the past 5-10 years before actually risking your firearms. Besides, there are plenty of stories about people who buried firearms, moved and forgot about digging them up until it was too late to recover them. It really isn't worth it. Burying them inside a wall or under the insulation in your attic would be a smarter thing to do.
i live in a apartment
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Use a food vacuum sealer. Seal them once, cover sealed bag in petroleum jelly, and then seal the bag in another bag.
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Do a bit of google for "ground penetrating radar".

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I'd use cosmoline.
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there's a reason so many old mil surp guns are still working. Cosmoline has a proven track record, use it.
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I'll spare you the sermons (YOU should do what YOU think is best) and just give you some info from guys who are experienced in burying survival supplies including firearms:

My Ten Year Caching Experiment

Constructing a Permanent Underground Cache

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So you live in an apartment, but have land to bury them in?
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i can find a place to do it...
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First of all, a door to door confiscation of weapons will never happen. Second, burying weapons and ammunition competely defeats the purpose of having them.

I can't believe that some people consider this a solution in response to having their 2nd and 4th ammendment rights trampled upon.
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So you live in an apartment, but have land to bury them in?
You can buy a small piece of land out in the boonies for a few hundred bucks. It won't be easily accessible, but your buried stuff isn't something you expect to be able to get to on short notice anyway.

I would think if you remove the oxygen as mentioned earlier and can seal it in a gas-impermeable container, it won't rust.
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You can buy a small piece of land out in the boonies for a few hundred bucks. It won't be easily accessible, but your buried stuff isn't something you expect to be able to get to on short notice anyway.

I would think if you remove the oxygen as mentioned earlier and can seal it in a gas-impermeable container, it won't rust.

Don't mean to high jack but where are they selling land in California for a few hundred dollars?
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Because when SWAT teams come to your door, they usually leave you at home when they leave? Do they let you out on bail a few days later?

Give us a scenario where the SWAT team comes to your house and your buried guns do you any good at any time in the future?

Further, you ought to be the neighbor that sees the SWAT team coming to my house and you shoot at them from the side with the rest of the neighborhood up the street while the rest of the neighborhood down the street gets them from the other side.

And again, this is all from the perspective of the great gun grab fantasy where your conservative local SWAT officers decide to go door to door getting guns and you are the lone man left in America to preserve freedom. Yet, they will for some reason let you go later on when they don't find your buried guns?
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Here's some ideas.

http://www.backwoodshome.com/articles2/wood115.html
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When it is time to bury your guns, it is time to dig them up.

Seriously, if you aren't going to use those guns to fight for your rights, then sell them to someone who will.

I would never want you as a neighbor. I can just hear your wife saying, "Hey dear, they are taking El Rojo off in a paddy wagon they are heading our way. What should we do?"

"Hide the guns! Whatever we do, we don't fight for our rights!"

Then they come to your door and ask where your guns are. You say, "I lost them in a boating accident."

They say, "Oh, well in that case, have a nice day." They definitely won't take you too and they definitely don't know from the state data base you have bought a hunting license for the last 20 years in a row and they definitely didn't seize the local gun shop's records and see you bought ammo recently.

Wake up people. The government should know you own guns and know you are not going to bury them, but use them!

And that is why they won't just take guns.

This is how 90% of the Members are here are..... Boating accident ****.
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Ok....a looonnngggg time ago I knew of a certain person...cough,cough....who's resemblance to me is purely coincidental...who went away...on "vacation" for a a couple of years.

Prior to his "vacation" he choice to bury some items for safe keeping until he could recover them when needed.

Lessons learned:

Deeper is better (this can apply to many things!...but I regress). Some of the storage tubes that where only a foot under the dirt sweated/condensated badly. Caused by temp fluctuations.
The items three to four feet down did not have this problem.

Any metal items....even stainless steel need to be covered in oil or grease then wrapped in plastic and placed in the storage tube (10" PVC is what was used).

Use LOTS of desiccant packs! They now have anti rust paper and "chips" (often seen in reloading dies) that I would look into as well.

Make sure you KNOW EXACTLY where you bury your stuff. LOL....trust me...being off by a few inches can cause panic! And even after just a year or two, things can look different when it is time to try and dig them up.

Good luck to you. I personally can understand the desire to want to have something put away "just in case".

A better solution IMHO is go out of town or out of state and rent a long term storage unit. DO NOT use a credit card to pay for it. A indoor one if preferable to outdoor ones for firearms.
DO NOT store inside rifle/gun case for any long term and again use lots of oil/anti rust products.

Along with a few guns and ammo you might stash some money, MRE's,etc. Chances are if you NEED to get to your guns in that type of situation, you will need food,water, and money as well.
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Then they come to your door and ask where your guns are. You say, "I lost them in a boating accident."

They say, "Oh, well in that case, have a nice day." They definitely won't take you too and they definitely don't know from the state data base you have bought a hunting license for the last 20 years in a row and they definitely didn't seize the local gun shop's records and see you bought ammo recently.

And that is why they won't just take guns.
boating accident? ye right.. what if they ask to search my place? I know I know they need a warrant.. but if they really wanna search it they would.. i really dont wanna go to jail for lying about if i have any guns in the house..
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If you have to bury them, moisture will be your enemy. Have you seen these?

http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/product/ZAA-063

Just don't buy anything from these dill holes. Find a different source.
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Old 12-23-2012, 12:55 PM
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Nothing comes out of the ground in good shape except fruit & veggies.
Saw some Hispanic guys bury a few pigs and a couple goats that were pretty tasty
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