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Old 05-08-2018, 8:42 PM
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Some Probation department's are very small. I was at a training conference up north where the Chief Probation officer was able to send 66 percent of the department to the conference.

He and 1 of his deputies were at the conference and he left the one other deputy back to run the department. Sierra County Probation is only 3. The Chief and two deputies. He is probably the only Chief Probation Officer in the state that carries a caseload. lol.
Alpine county, which is next door to El Dorado, is in the nano category!

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Old 05-08-2018, 10:08 PM
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Just had two of my partners come back from CORE last Friday.

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Will Officers be promoted from the current DPO1 promotional list.
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Old 05-10-2018, 7:40 AM
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yes. they are already promoting dpo I, but at a slow pace. once they close the camps that they are planning to close, they will have a better idea of how many openings there will be. after the new fiscal, we should see some more movement.
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yes. they are already promoting dpo I, but at a slow pace. once they close the camps that they are planning to close, they will have a better idea of how many openings there will be. after the new fiscal, we should see some more movement.
What strategies are in place to retain DSOs? DSOs are leaving the department at an alarming rate. Many giving up their peace officer status on top of taking a salary reduction.

Also, I understand Camps are scheduled to close, which will allow DPO1s to fill much needed positions in the field. If spots remain vacant after camp closures will the DPO1 Field title make a posible return?
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Old 05-10-2018, 3:59 PM
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What strategies are in place to retain DSOs? DSOs are leaving the department at an alarming rate. Many giving up their peace officer status on top of taking a salary reduction.

Also, I understand Camps are scheduled to close, which will allow DPO1s to fill much needed positions in the field. If spots remain vacant after camp closures will the DPO1 Field title make a posible return?
Its a problem we are having as well. The C.O. position is experiencing a lot of turnover. From what I've seen, non competitive pay is the main thing. Also, lots of new rules regarding juveniles passed by the state that are making the job more difficult. Most are leaving us for P.D.'s and sheriff departments. If you can pass our background then you will most likely pass theirs. Not trying to be discouraging just being honest.
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Old 05-10-2018, 7:24 PM
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At this point the DPO I field position will not reopen. Some discussion has been had that some of the DPO I items may be transferred to the Halls when the camps close. this will allow those in camps currently, to promote out to the field and those DSO at the Halls can promote in to these DPO I items at the Halls. once a Hall DPO I completes the two years, they would be able to promote out to the field as a 2. interesting things coming.

I agree with watchur6 about those leaving. this career is not for everyone and when the reality of working with these really damaged kids comes to fruition, there are those that will not sacrifice themselves for the mission.
other staff are leaving and going to better paying agencies with better retirements.

I just had a friend with 13 years on leave to CHP. he now has full safety retirement, better pay, better hours and a full month paid vacation his first year in. we don't come close to what he is getting with CHP his first year in.

You have to be a PO because you want to help people. This cannot be about a paycheck. it's about working hard to change lives for the better.
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Old 05-11-2018, 8:53 AM
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I wish your agency the best. Unfortunately, the low pay and benefits will keep you from hiring the best and brightest. Police agencies are having trouble recruiting despite having much better pay and benefits.
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I agree. We are going in to contract negotiations and they should hopefully have new contract by July 1.
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Its a problem we are having as well. The C.O. position is experiencing a lot of turnover. From what I've seen, non competitive pay is the main thing. Also, lots of new rules regarding juveniles passed by the state that are making the job more difficult. Most are leaving us for P.D.'s and sheriff departments. If you can pass our background then you will most likely pass theirs. Not trying to be discouraging just being honest.
lots of new rules regarding juveniles passed by the state that are making the job more difficult.

Could you please be more specific on the new rules?

Thank you.
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Old 05-15-2018, 7:57 PM
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The biggest one that is probably the most challenging, is the loss of room confinement, that must be enforced starting this year. Also, in general, juveniles have a different set of rules and laws compared to adults. So it is always changing, some things get better and some get worse.

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Old 05-16-2018, 11:36 AM
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That's interesting.

Perhaps confinement for an extended period of time is viewed punitive. I do think transferring the initiator to another unit would be a proactive approach.

If keeping them in the same unit is mandatory, then I can clearly see why DSO's are leaving. If transferring one out to another unit is an option, then it's not the end of the world.

Thank you for your answer Watchur6.
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Old 05-20-2018, 10:49 PM
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When you go to medical and psych, do they ask for my regular doc contact so tha they can request info from my regular doctor or do they just do their own medical and psych eval without requesting any outside info? And what exactly does medical and psych consist of? I'm scheduled and dont know what to expect.
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Old 05-21-2018, 9:45 AM
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I just had my medical & psych about three weeks ago and you do not anything from your primary doctor. Medical exam is literally just like any physical exam you’d have at a regular doctors office. Psych evaluation consists of a lot of tests and interview, it’s a very lengthy evaluation. So prepare to spend atleast half of your day there.
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I just had my medical & psych about three weeks ago and you do not anything from your primary doctor. Medical exam is literally just like any physical exam you’d have at a regular doctors office. Psych evaluation consists of a lot of tests and interview, it’s a very lengthy evaluation. So prepare to spend atleast half of your day there.
Oh okay. I thought they request all this paperwork and stuff. Thnx.
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I received my medical cleared letter on May 7th. I read previously you said that next academy is 11 weeks from April 27th. Do you have an idea when I will be notified to report to the next academy.

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Old 05-22-2018, 10:41 AM
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once you finish ALL sections, including completing the polygraph and full background, your BI turns in the packet to HR quality control. they may take a month to review packet and make a final decision. if there were any anomalies, then that can take longer to get more info from you, medical or who ever the anomaly is best suited to clear. once all is clear, they will usually call about a month before the next academy. if you have not received a call two weeks before the next academy, then they will most likely call you before the following academy. good luck.
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Old 05-22-2018, 9:15 PM
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Smile Thanks Capt. Mike

I spoke to H.R today. I will be in the next academy class. Looking forward to it.
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Old 05-23-2018, 6:42 AM
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Congratulations. now start working out if not already. PM me if you would like a tour of a juvenile hall before you start. good luck.
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Old 05-23-2018, 12:05 PM
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Capt. Mike, is there a way or somebody to speak to to know why I got DQ?
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Old 05-23-2018, 4:38 PM
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the department does not have to disclose due to existing law. You can attempt to call HR but they do not have to tell you why.
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Captmike, hello do you know when is the next academy for GSN?
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Old 05-23-2018, 8:55 PM
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I cleared backgrounds for Reserve DPO back in...ummm...January? Still waiting for an academy date...I didn't hold out much more hope for DPO...I really would have enjoyed working at a camp.

I'm headed to Rio Hondo instead for someone else...
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Old 05-24-2018, 3:25 PM
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Where is the academy located?
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I heard that LA county probation officers are not armed - is this true?
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Patience is key for any of you going through the process right now. I just completed my medical a week ago and my psych this Tuesday. I now patiently wait to hear back. What I hope will be good news.
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Old 05-25-2018, 10:42 AM
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when did you apply?
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when did you apply?
I applied in November. Process is moving pretty fast compared to others.

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Does anybody know if the Medical clearance letter includes psych clearance as well or does that come separately?
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The letter will say that you are medically cleared. It will inform you to give H.R probation a call. No information about the psych exam will be on the letter. You should receive letter in 3 or 4 weeks.
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Okay thank you I recieved a medical clearance letter on Friday, so I wasn’t sure to expect another one for the psych.
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Okay thank you I recieved a medical clearance letter on Friday, so I wasn’t sure to expect another one for the psych.
How long did it take to receive medical and psych results?
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How long did it take to receive medical and psych results?
Usually about 3-4 weeks after appointment..look out for a letter in the mail

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Patience is key for any of you going through the process right now. I just completed my medical a week ago and my psych this Tuesday. I now patiently wait to hear back. What I hope will be good news.
Wow really? Takes 30 days to get excepted for different State Police agencies.
You can always volunteer with a local police agency say in Oregon and after a couple months and training you get the ok to goto the State Police academy.

Your timeline is what’s typical of an NFA firearm approval. Took the US government 8 months to approve me for an SBR in 2010. Way too long imo.
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Most agencies here in CA take several months ...sometimes longer than a year...just depends on the needs of the department and the pace they are moving
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Wow really? Takes 30 days to get excepted for different State Police agencies.
You can always volunteer with a local police agency say in Oregon and after a couple months and training you get the ok to goto the State Police academy.

Your timeline is what’s typical of an NFA firearm approval. Took the US government 8 months to approve me for an SBR in 2010. Way too long imo.
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How long did it take to receive medical and psych results?
I took my medical at beginning of May, and my psych was the day right after my medical. I got a medical clearance letter in the mail 4 weeks after my medical, but still waiting for my psych.. it’s been about 6 weeks.
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The medical clearance includes both physical and psych exams. Don’t believe me call that number on the bottom.
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Thanx for the info. Ya I believe the clearance does include both examinations.
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