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sorry, I was confused
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"It is currently CA legal to modify a double-action revolver into a single-action revolver and modify a single-action revolver into a double-action revolver. CA DOJ BOF stance on modifying handguns only applies to dimensionally compliant bolt-action single-shot pistols and dimensionally compliant break-open single-shot pistols. ^It does not apply to revolvers, manually operated repeating pistols, and semi-auto pistols." ~~ Quiet Last edited by jimbo74; 11-03-2018 at 7:07 PM.. |
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Standard carbine weight.
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If it was a bolt-action single-shot (fixed 0 round mag/sled), then it would meet SSE2 and then there would be no need to get it listed on the Roster of Handguns Certified for Sale. But, since it's a bolt-action repeater (detachable magazine), it does not meet SSE2 and would need to be listed on the Roster of Handguns Certified for Sale. |
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LGSs who work with CalDOJ (which is more responsive to FFLs than it is to the general public in guiding them about what is/is not legal) make/sell bolt-action single-shots that are not fixed.
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The brace is an interesting thought. If we knew that the brace was not going to cause a problem with approval, we would haved used one. (SB Tactical is a vendor and Alex is a friend.) Do we know if CADOJ will allow a brace on a pistol? I own one on an AOW that was approved as an AW, but AOW are exempt.
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I got this from the DOJ report. Can discuss further if you are interested and want to PM me.
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As a buyer,maybe would be prudent to fix the mag,AOW the pistol, and then put on brace. At that point a vertical foregrip would be A-OK as well. Also flash hider would not need to be pinned because fixed magazine- correct? |
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Still curious to hear the rational for why or how you were able to bypass the microstamping requirement to be put on the roster. From my understanding, unless grandfathered in, all new guns on the roster need that requirement.
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I thought it would then just be exempt from the roster. Not approved for the roster.. hmm
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Yet, it's not subject to microstamping no different than revolvers that still need to be approved for the Roster. Multi-shot, but not semi-auto. .
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Again, not a 100% confirmation that braces are legal to use, but it seems to indicate that DOJ isn't willing to currently take the position that they aren't legal. It is perhaps worth a conversation with DOJ about, as something to pursue. And if they say yes, then it would answer the brace question for not only your pistol, but everyone's.
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I love that this has become a thing, it's very innovative and allows us to have an AR pistol option with a detachable mag. My only concern is the time between fallow up shots. What about making it pump action? It would definitely speed up the process of chambering a new round due to the fact that the action is where your support grip should be.
Also would love to see this in .458 SOCOM. Last edited by Lefty1911; 11-04-2018 at 8:06 PM.. |
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charging handle. You or someone else might want to create your own company design and making such add-on product yourself. Crazy ideas.. keep em coming! |
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something else: I think you could remove the buffer system entirely, and shorten the BCG if a locking mechanism was made up like when you charge a pump action shotgun. big fan of DFA buffer system but I'm an even bigger fan of eliminating the buffer system entirely if it's not needed. |
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Can someone with machining skills make a front hand guard with a sliding wrapped around handle attached to an action bar connected to the side charging AR upper's (left side) charging handle?
This will make a quick, simple pump action repeater upgrade for the new CA7 pistol. |
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Interesting fact.... Nothing in the AOW definition uses the word "vertical" in context with the grip. ATF just interprets a second hand grip as such.
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Barrel is not drilled.
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Then it needs a stock, too.
But, at that point it's just a regular rifle, so handgun roster restrictions would not be relevant.
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franklinarmory~ Love it! This is now on the top of my wish list.
Just an FYI on CCW. I have a permit in Sacramento County. They have this rule. No rifle caliber CCW. https://sacramentoca.permitium.com/ccw/start Firearms A total of three (3) firearms can be listed on your permit. Be sure each firearm you list on your Concealed Weapon Permit is registered to you or your spouse/registered domestic partner. This can only be done if the two of you reside together. The firearm(s) cannot be registered to any other family member. You may not add rifle caliber weapons (AR-Pistol, AK-Pistol, etc.) to your CCW permit. |
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So, uhh, you guys don’t happen to make pistol caliber lowers that accept Glock magazines, do you? (Hint-hint)
But for reals, I’m gonna need one of these fine bolt actions, but I’m probably not gonna convince my wife that’s I’ve always had this old thing lying around...
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You could pick up a 9mm upper and a Mean Arms EndoMag...
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I know every county is different, but here's where my county would have issues:
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Wow, that is stringent. It would be worth asking Bond Arms to see if they can convince the Sheriff to change the requirements.
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