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Glock 42 heavy trigger issue
My buddy bought a G42 via a PPT a few months back. It was in new condition. The trigger was rather heavy so he had me check it with my digital gage and it came in at 9.8 lbs. I read that the trigger should be 5.5 lbs. Can he buy a lighter drop in trigger for his 42? Is the "Ghost Edge" connector worth a shot?
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Thanks for the info. In my first post I forgot to ask about the Ghost Edge product. Is the one you referred me to at the Glock store one that you have tried?
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Thanks, I'll check that out because he's not too keen on the idea of shipping his gun off.
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in full disclosure I have not used the product I linked, just wanted to show you an example that on glocks it's easy enough to change that connector bar and leave the trigger otherwise unchanged. that's true with all models not just the little g42.
i do have a G42 and never had a problem with the trigger. I never measured it but it sure doesn't feel like 9 lbs to me. it's not what I would call a great trigger, but it's always been good enough IMHO never felt the need to mess with trigger on any pistols I have shot |
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I put the Ghost Edge in mine and it was a dramatic improvement in pull weight over the (early model) factory 8# connector. He could also try the Glock oem 5.5# connector if he wants to use factory part..
https://www.glockparts.com/custom/glsp33564.htm https://www.glockparts.com/custom/GHO-42.htm |
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The G43 came with a lighter connector, and it is swapable to the G42.
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More good advice. Thanks! Is the 43 oem connector 5.5# like the newer 42 oem connector?
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Thank you to all who responded for your suggesions and advice. Much appreciated!
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This was very informative.
https://www.glocktalk.com/threads/ho...42-43.1648175/ The two best parts to replace: FIRING PIN SAFETY PLUNGER SPRING: The FP safety spring is the first spring you need to replace if you want to smooth out and reduce the trigger pull weight on the G42/43. Ghost makes a reduced power FP safety spring you can use that is effective and reliable. FIRING PIN (STRIKER) SPRING: The FP (striker) spring is the biggest culprit that causes the heavy trigger pull weight on the G42/43. The FP (striker) spring used by Glock on the G42/43 is their standard 5.5lb FP (striker) spring, the same as used in all Glocks Gen 1-4 and believe it or not, the G42/43. Now, conventional wisdom tells you if you used the same 5.5lb FP (striker) spring that is used in all Glocks Gen 1-4, the trigger pull weight would be 5-6lbs. Well, that would be true if the FP (striker) was the exact same size in all Glocks, including the G42/43. But, that’s not the case. The FP (striker) is relatively shorter in the G42/43 than it is in other Glocks Gen 1-4, but Glock uses the exact same FP (striker) spring in the G42/43 that they use in all other Glocks! Needless to say, if you compress a 5.5lb spring on to a shorter FP (striker), you will increase the weight of the trigger pull by as much as 2-3lbs!! Hope it helps you out. |
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That’s pretty high, but Glock test their triggers at the bottom of the trigger. So if you are testing in the middle you will have a higher reading then what Glock advertises.
My 43 came in at 6.5 stock, went down to 4.8 with just a DD connector. When I was ordering some parts from APEX for some M&P’s I decided to buy and test one of their Glock connectors. Compared to others it was a bargain at $15, I put it in a gen 4 19 and got a trigger weight of 4.3 and really like the feel of it. Should say I’m a fan of the minus connector and like that feel, some don’t. I test at the bottom for consistency and realize that the weight is actually a little higher then my readings, but we really don’t want a striker fire carry gun with a sub 4.5 to 5 lb trigger anyway.
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I suspect the G42 in the OP has the originally-supplied connector, which is no longer even available. Many customers found the originally-supplied connector too heavy and not meeting the expected 5.5 pound pull. Glock discontinued the original, unmarked connector and made the "minus" 33564 connector the standard, supplied connector. The subject G42 is likely an older version manufactured approximately within the first year of introduction or otherwise has the older version of the connector in it.
Glock's latest standard connector for the G42 is part number 33564 and is marked with both a "minus" symbol and the number "33564" on the connector. The number can't be seen unless completely removed from the trigger mechanism housing. Although I don't have a G42, a Ghost "Edge" connector for the G42/43 was very similar in feel to a stock Glock 33564 connector in my G43. Here's one source for the Glock-brand connector: https://www.glockparts.com/custom/glsp33564.htm As another poster mentioned, however, after taking the subject G42 apart, anything could be found for the heavy trigger pull.
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The connector may be the issue, however I personally found that the infamous .50 cent trigger job: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XJxltxvAo4 lowered the pull weight on mine, which also had a very high initial pull weight, to below the 5.5lb claimed weight. Look at a couple videos and usual a little self-control and common sense.
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I had the opposite experience with a Glock I bought PPT off this forum years ago.
It was a Glock 30sf and never tested trigger before bought it-- looked great/like new and came w 6 mags. Once brought it home I realized trigger must have been messed with somehow cause pull was 3.5 lbs on my electronic gauge. It's not my HD gun and I do not have CCW so I don't mind it at all. Just a range gun for me and actually helps my groups w that light trigger-- I'd never carry it that way though. Lot of people mess w their Glock triggers. Before buying after market kit I'd have somebody look at it to see exactly what was done to make it so heavy. Last edited by timbo399; 01-14-2019 at 4:41 PM.. |
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Parts could be installed wrong etc. Also check which connector is installed. Last edited by SkyHawk; 01-14-2019 at 6:36 PM.. |
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First thing I thought too, make sure it isn’t installed upside down! But then I remembered that Glock 42 uses Gen 5 style trigger spring, and it is different than Gen 2/3/4 Glocks. It is not an S spring.
Also AFAIK, there are no NY triggers for Glock 42/43. Last edited by SkyHawk; 01-14-2019 at 7:38 PM.. |
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Great supplier for the updated connector here, $8.76 shipped no tax
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Glock-33564...3/312027550277 But check first to make sure you don’t already have it. |
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Thanks once again gents! The wealth of gun knowledge shared here is remarkable and I'm fortunate to have you all offer and share your knowledge!
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BOOM. This. ^^^
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I've shot 4 different G42s and the triggers were fine - same force as the G17 |
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I got the Glock store Double Diamond connector and installed it. Trigger now just under 6#! Very nice! Very happy. Thanks again to all who gave their input.
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You need to contact Glock and provide your serial number they will cross check and if your pistol is of the older batch and has the original connector, then they will send you the factory OEM redesigned minus connector free of charge if it was not provided already previously. The only catch is that you have to be a Glock Certified Armorer to receive the parts, or you can ask an armorer to contact them on your behalf. For the record I am not an armorer. |
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OR, find out when the next GSSF match is and just show up and ask the onsite armorer to check it out. I don't recall being asked for GSSF membership.
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I just tested an original connector (which was already installed) and new minus connector in a brand new old stock G42 - using a pull gauge and seat of the pants feel. It made barely any difference, maybe about a pound.
Also to the OP - how you use a gauge on a Glock trigger makes a big difference. Where the finger of the gauge is positioned on the trigger shoe (high or low) and the direction of pull (straight back or at a slight downward angle) can add up to an easy two or three pounds of difference on the gauge, maybe more. The pull gauge will get a lot more leverage as you move down the trigger shoe. Therefore, comparing results to other people or even to the factory is a crap shoot. Last edited by SkyHawk; 01-22-2019 at 2:29 PM.. |
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I put a complete kit like this in mine (and retained the original parts) and love it. There are cheaper options, but I didn't want to mix parts
https://www.glockstore.com/Pyramid-T...or-G42-and-G43
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