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Old 05-20-2016, 8:33 PM
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Just applied for a job in my field in Nevada on Tuesday. If I'm accepted the family and I will be gone from California by the start of next year. Less money yes, but I've come to the conclusion that freedom is more important than a bigger paycheck. At least for me.
Nevada doesn't have a personal state income tax and property taxes are about half of California. So you'll most likely break even or come out ahead to due lower taxes, and living expenses.

Good for you to get your family out of California. Good luck.
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Been wanting to leave for a long time. I've got more incentive than ever, now.

I just clinched a great job, but have to wait a year to get off of probation before I can start looking for a transfer out of state. Once I get home in a few months, I'm going to start preparing to leave.

I'd like to believe that staying and fighting is worth it, and there's hope for the future, but in all reality, that's a false hope.

SAF and Calguns was kicking arse for a while, but the emboldened left that arose after the gay marriage Supreme Court victory brushed all that aside. They'll do anything and everything they can, no matter how immoral, unethical or blatantly illegal to push their agenda. Seeking greener pastures really seems to be the only hope of hanging on to liberty.
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Old 07-02-2016, 3:59 AM
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I'm curious, and I ask because I was in much the same position back in Illinois in 1991, when my wife and I made the decision to sell our home and move to Arizona, because of much the same reason of what California is plagued with today. Very restrictive gun laws that were getting worse every year, socialist Democratic government, high taxes, etc.

About the only thing they had you guys don't is horrible Winters. But now, you've got drought to contend with. Anyway, that was over 24 years ago, and looking back it was the best decision of my life! It took a lot to muster up the courage to do it. We risked everything financially. We knew no one out here, and didn't have a line on a single job. But I am very glad we did it. The older you get, the harder it is to do these type of things. Also, we didn't have children, which made it some what easier.

I just was wondering with California getting so bad with gun laws, illegal invaders, drought, expensive everything, how many of you are getting close to pulling up stakes? Especially with Phoenix just 360 miles from L.A., not 2,000 like it is from Chicago.
Yep, My wife and I will be packin for TX. early next year.
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Old 07-02-2016, 4:04 AM
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Looks like I'm headed to AZ. Just gotta figure out how to sell the house and move in short order.
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Old 07-02-2016, 5:27 AM
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With the state of California so packed full of flaming liberals, I'm really surprised that California hasn't gone with F.O.I.D. Cards, (Firearm Owner Identification Cards), the way Illinois did decades ago. I remember getting my first one when I was just 18. My mother had to sign it with me. That was back in 1971, and they're still going strong with it. Liberals love these things, because it literally gives the state the full power to ban you from owning any type of firearm. Even an inherited one.

If you get one, then let it expire, you will then be in illegal possession of a firearm, and can be arrested, charged with a felony, and have the weapons confiscated. This has happened many times in various law enforcement sting operations. Illinois is all but infamous for passing legislation making criminals out of ordinary citizens. One of the many reasons I got out of that liberal infested stink hole of a state.
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Living in Florida right now.
I've heard about the gun laws in Kali, sucks. I feel bad for you guys.
I plan on moving back to Kali someday, gun laws or not.
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We have already left. The gun laws were a factor, but truthfully not the primary reason. More than anything else we were looking to move somewhere with a better overall quality of life.

We live in north Idaho now, outside the small town of Sandpoint. People here are friendly and helpful in a sincere way that we didn't find in much of SoCal. We have a shooting range on our property, and the neighbors don't come running or call the Sheriff if they hear gunshots. We regularly see deer and turkey on our property, along with the occasional moose. As of yesterday we have constitutional carry in the state, and our county Sheriff has said in the past that he will not enforce gun laws he believes are unconstitutional.

We were in California until May, so I've been following the raft of onerous gun laws being served up this year. On more issues than just gun laws I think California is a lost cause. The demographics are against you. Brown may help this year by using his veto, but the tides are running against liberty in the Golden State.

I understand not everyone can leave. Family and career commitments make that impossible for some. That said, I encourage all productive people who can to consider leaving California. IMO, the only hope for the state is to crash the system by having enough of the taxpayers who are needed to fund the Liberal utopia leave the state. Until Sacramento is presented with the hard reality that their program is no longer affordable there will be no change.

ETA: I see in this morning's news that Brown was of limited help. My condolences to those who remain in CA.
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Any state that won't let me hand my rifle down to my children is not a state in which I see a future. The battle is lost here. Time to get out of this third world hellhole. California gave me a good 13 years. Found my wife here, started a family, have a two year old girl and a boy on the way. My wife is from North Carolina. I'm from Florida. Time to go back home to the South where we belong.
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Old 07-02-2016, 8:52 AM
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Old 07-02-2016, 9:18 AM
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So if you've read a few of my earlier posts you'd know that the family and I are looking to relocate to northern Nevada. Had a few job interviews in my field over the last few months and they all went well but turned them down because I thought the wage was a little too low.

I will NOT, and I repeat, I WILL NOT refuse the next one. We will be out of this tyrannical cesspool by spring of next year at the latest. Liberty is dead in California folks there is no more denying it. You have to accept it or move to a free state those are your only options now.
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Old 07-02-2016, 9:28 AM
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My wife and I plan on moving as soon as she retires in 3 years. The gun laws are a real downer, however it's the general attitude of the people here and throw in all the illegal immigration that has made us look elsewhere to live out our lives. Liberals rule my area and they are the meanest, most self-centered people I have ever encountered.
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Wife finally agreed yesterday to move within next two years. Target is next summer soon as kids are out of school. I've worked on her for three years and this latest slew of gun laws pushed her over the edge.

My collection cost more than a house in a free state. No way we are allowing our grade school aged children to grow up in a state that hates us. The liberals can have their sanctuary state. I have been here since 1985 when I joined the Navy. Over the years I have come to truly hate this state.

Our sizeable incomes and skills are leaving forever.

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Old 07-02-2016, 10:08 AM
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My wife and I plan on moving as soon as she retires in 3 years. The gun laws are a real downer, however it's the general attitude of the people here and throw in all the illegal immigration that has made us look elsewhere to live out our lives. Liberals rule my area and they are the meanest, most self-centered people I have ever encountered.
The socialist attempt is getting very aggressive too... LA's proposed property tax increase - to generate $1.8B to house the homeless is ludicrous... I guess paying for storage for their belongings wasn't enough

Equal results regardless of individual's effort. What a brilliant social plan

This place will implode sooner than I anticipated.
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Old 07-02-2016, 10:45 AM
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We are planning to sell the house next June after the kids graduate. Then we will rent and look for jobs in the next state. Until then, I will fully comply with all laws from The Party. Right before we go, I'll see about raising that boat from the lake.
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The wife and I will be in Idaho shopping for a house 10-days from now.
She finally became sick of the politics and people here.

Never thought I'd leave the state I was born in, but it's getting worse by the day.
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Old 07-02-2016, 11:21 AM
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We just settled on a three year plan to move out of CA.. My wife has her 20 years in place and we will just work on paying off everything and building up savings/equity .. the plan is to move before the kids start high school.

Top on the list is St George Utah.. close to SoCal to still visit friends.. not north enough to be crazy cold and close to many national parks we love.. no state income tax and they need teachers with my wifes credentials..

I have lived here all my life.. over half a century.. the govt here doesn't care about us or our opinion.. we've lost..

I will sell all the off roster stuff before I leave..

The Sac govt can choke on it.. I'm sure 100 illegals will take my place..
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The wife and I will be in Idaho shopping for a house 10-days from now.
She finally became sick of the politics and people here.

Never thought I'd leave the state I was born in, but it's getting worse by the day.
Idaho might be a bit cold for us.. so we were thinking Utah..

Any bad things about Utah?
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Idaho might be a bit cold for us.. so we were thinking Utah..

Any bad things about Utah?
St George isn't that bad at all. Yes, they get snow, but it doesn't usually stay, and it's not as bitterly cold as you think it is. My suggestion is to take a few days in mid January and drive up. Get a hotel room and feel it. I did that with my wife for Colorado to let her see it before we moved. She saw they sell hats, scarves, coats and gloves. As soon as she found out seasons had shopping associated with them, she was on board.
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St George isn't that bad at all. Yes, they get snow, but it doesn't usually stay, and it's not as bitterly cold as you think it is. My suggestion is to take a few days in mid January and drive up. Get a hotel room and feel it. I did that with my wife for Colorado to let her see it before we moved. She saw they sell hats, scarves, coats and gloves. As soon as she found out seasons had shopping associated with them, she was on board.
Yea.. 18-24 inches of snow is nothing.. the kids will love it..

High temps about the same as here.. lows a bit lower.. high desert air.. housing is about 50% of here, no state income tax.. We don't do "big city" stuff.. we would miss Disneyland and the ocean, but that's what vacations are for.

Utah accepts CA teacher credentials and my wife has two masters and a ton of admin and special-ed credentials that Utah is desperate for.

Me, I will hate leaving my job since there is no replacement anywhere in the US.. but I can freelance for cash and I'm smart enough to earn $$.. not as much as now, but given the lower cost of living, enough. My wife would take a big pay hit, but again, with less expenses we could manage.

This state doesn't want us.. that's clear..
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A lot of the recent post reflect how I feel. I have 2.5 years to go for retirement. Unfortunately, my wife has 6.5 years to go.

To complicate matters, my wife is not thrilled about Arizona. I'm looking at north Phoenix not to far from the Ben Avery Shooting Facility.

Anyone have any advice on how to convince my wife to leave California? She does prefer a more green environment. I told her the golf courses are plenty green.
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Idaho might be a bit cold for us.. so we were thinking Utah..

Any bad things about Utah?
It use to be too cold for us also. We'll be looking in southern, Idaho.

Our family ranch is 200-miles north of Boise, use to freeze by October. Now it's t-shirt weather around Thanksgiving when I go back to hunt.
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A lot of the recent post reflect how I feel. I have 2.5 years to go for retirement. Unfortunately, my wife has 6.5 years to go.

To complicate matters, my wife is not thrilled about Arizona. I'm looking at north Phoenix not to far from the Ben Avery Shooting Facility.

Anyone have any advice on how to convince my wife to leave California? She does prefer a more green environment. I told her the golf courses are plenty green.
Anthem isn't far from Ben Avery... It's green up there and not as hot as others Phoenix metro areas... There's lots of green in phoenix (believe it or not)... I'm trying to get away from the SoCal suburban environment though - so I'm embracing rural desert.

This is presuming you mean green as in trees and foliage - and not Eco green
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I'm looking to be outta this liberal cesspool infested state by end of year. CA just sunk to a new low in oppression yesterday.
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plans to bail just got a major kick in the *** with this recent gunpocalypse crap. OR, WA and ID are tops on my list! need to nail down a spot asap.
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We moved to Idaho (Boise area) in 2013 and everyone in the family is happy.

If any of you is thinking about moving to Idaho and have any questions, just send me a private message.

I'm also a professional Realtor (Idaho) and would be happy to assist with relocation, home or land purchase etc.

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We moved to Idaho (Boise area) in 2013 and everyone in the family is happy.

If any of you is thinking about moving to Idaho and have any questions, just send me a private message.

I'm also a professional Realtor and would be happy to assist with relocation, home or land purchase etc.
What's the advantage of Idaho over Utah?
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Hard to leave CA due to family, job security, and pension. Still have 16 more years left to call it quit.
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Move to Colorado, There's already a large migration happening and its a great place to live. The job market is also very stable and it seems to be improving for everyone out here.
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Conservatives can move to Oregon, progressives to Washington. Thank you.
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What's the advantage of Idaho over Utah?
In my opinion, Idaho has better climate, more water, more farm land, more mountains and outdoors.

SLC is is about double is size and may provide more job opportunities.

On the other hand, while Idaho also has a fairly large Mormon population, in SLC if you are not a LDS member, you may face more challenges (personal opinion)

Home prices about the same comparing SLC & Boise however you will get a bigger home and bigger size lot in Idaho.

Both are 2nd Amendment friendly.
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In my opinion, Idaho has better climate, more water, more farm land, more mountains and outdoors.

SLC is is about double is size and may provide more job opportunities.

On the other hand, while Idaho also has a fairly large Mormon population, in SLC if you are not a LDS member, you may face more challenges (personal opinion)

Home prices about the same comparing SLC & Boise however you will get a bigger home and bigger size lot in Idaho.

Both are 2nd Amendment friendly.
Southern Utah.. Not SLC area.. St George.. Washington City
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Anthem isn't far from Ben Avery... It's green up there and not as hot as others Phoenix metro areas... There's lots of green in phoenix (believe it or not)... I'm trying to get away from the SoCal suburban environment though - so I'm embracing rural desert.

This is presuming you mean green as in trees and foliage - and not Eco green
LBDamned, Thanks for commenting. Yes, I have been looking at homes in Anthem. Also Vistancia. A friend retired last year. Last November he moved into Anthem Parkside south of Anthem Boulevard.

My wife and I toured Anthem with realtor when I was in town for the NASCAR race. I also like Phoenix's race rack. It's way better than the California's speedway.

I did mean green as in foliage. I know it's was a bit ambiguous. I told my wife about Prescott, but it may get to cold for me there. There's a lake within about an hours drive of Anthem too. I would like to live where I can have a pool.

How many years until you retire or move out of California?
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Other than driving through, I'm not too familiar with the area. I know Walmart has a huge distribution center in that area ... so if you are a truck driver, this place may be perfect

Personal opinion, I would go further north as this area is HOT and DRY and once Vegas runs out of water, this place is toast.
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After Jerry 'the jerk' Brown signed the gun laws yesterday my wife walked in and said, "Thats it, were moving out of CA for sure!"

We have been talking about leaving for several years, not just because of gun rights, but also because of the progressive nature of all things CA. The taxes, the environmental nuts, idiotic transportation priorities, increasing crime, SJWs, progressive schools, the flood of illegals, and a populace that is too stupid to understand any of it.

Then my buddy tells me he can't ride his dirt bike at Carnegie OHV park half the time, and isn't even allowed to park his truck under the trees anymore because of 'environmental concerns' there. This is a useless piece of land run by the State and they are worried about erosion? And oil drips from trucks parked under trees killing the trees? Come on! So I bet it won't be long before we won't have any place to ride or shoot. Chabot range is closing and USI may never reopen.

Really, what its all about is boiling frogs. They are just taking away our rights and privileges a little at a time. Anything the leftist progressives don't like will be regulated out of existence a little at a time.

I'm getting out of CA. As a 5th generation Californian it pains me to do it, but I'm done with this commie state.
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