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Old 06-18-2017, 5:52 PM
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hey guys I received another rifle about 3 weeks ago and I have no Idea what the hell I have or value. according to my grandfather it is a Ackley 257 roberts with a cetme trigger that is as light as a feather.it also has a heavy walnut stock. my grandfather said he sent the parts to a a gunsmith in Utah something Ackley and the smith sent him the complete rifle in 59. the rifle has 2 markings one on the bolt and another below the receiver which marks it as a fn. due to the unusual trigger I have no clue how to disassemble the rifle. I asked my grandpa how the hell did he install it he laughed and said "the gun smith did it". the story goes that after he got it he lent it to a friend who never dialed in the scope after 3 rounds he gave up and returned it because he couldn't hit anything.

the dam thing is 50 inches I am 5'3 the gun along reaches my shoulder.

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Old 06-18-2017, 5:55 PM
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Also inherited this 58 Sako he said more guns are coming my way but I have no idea how many

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What ever you learn about these, DON'T SELL THEM. Real professional gunsmith
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Also inherited this 58 Sako he said more guns are coming my way but I have no idea how many

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Can't get stocks like that anymore!
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I know nothing about your rifle but did find information on the gunsmith, Parker Otto Ackley. You can start here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P.O._Ackley

He was much more than just a gunsmith. This is definitely not one to sell. Get the information from your grandfather about the rifle in writing and have him sign it so you have at least some minimal verification of the story.

If you want to shoot it, you will have to definitely learn how to reload. It is a wildcat round.
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Damn, I inherited some cool stuff, but an Ackley the great man himself breathed on? Unbelievable.
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I hope the request for value is insurance related...



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They look like great rifles.

I can remember in the 1970s, 40 plus years ago, you know, the Jurassic days, seeing rifles like that. Most were made by former Weatherby workers. Or, made by tool & die makers who showed Weatherby workers how to make a rifle.
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The .257AI is one of the better Ackley rounds.

You should get the Ackley Book.
https://www.amazon.com/Handbook-Shoo.../dp/9992948817

You can still find hard bound versions at a decent price.
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Its made to shoot standard 257 Roberts ammo in and it will fire form to the Ackley version. Very nice rifle That's probably a Fajen stock. Rifle is a Fabrique National Mauser. The trigger probably has a trigger shoe on it or it's a Canjar trigger.
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I should take better care of it then when I speak to him I will get it in writing the rifle is next to my mosin I should put it in a special place. What is funny is since the cartage is a oddball and weight I was going to clean is up very nice and make it a wall hanger.

next question did akley ever mark his guns with a stamp if someone can find me info I will post asap if I find it!
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Very nice! Some guys have all the luck.
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The 50's & 60's FN Mauser Actions are some of the best made Mauser ever.

Please post pics of the trigger!
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Wow OP! Beautiful, unique rifles. An Ackley? Nice! Your Grandpa has excellent taste, you lucky guy
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OP I have 257 AI dies. There are 2 types. I have the 40* version.

LMK if you need to use them.

I have loaded rounds if you want to see if they chamber.
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alright guys how do I do this without ****ing up the rifle I somewhat removed the barrel but not enough to take a good look below the receiver.

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Remove the trigger shoe first, then the two trigger guard screws on the bottom. The barreled action will lift out. Be careful to loft straight up, it's probably glass bedded, a tight fit, and you don't want to screw up the bedding job.
Close up pics of all the barrel markings while you have it out.
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Congrats. You are one lucky man to have your grandfather hand down such nice rifles.

I would definitely get setup to reload for it. It will be worth it.
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Beautiful rifles, the stocks are works of art compared to most of the rifles sold today.
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I want to shoot the Ackley .22 Eargesplitten Loudenboomer

Sounds like fun!:

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Very nice rifles.


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I want to shoot the Ackley .22 Eargesplitten Loudenboomer

Sounds like fun!:
That pressure wave would probably blow up a 'yote like a puffer fish.
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A pair of nice rifles there op
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Took me awhile to remember, but I think both of those stocks came from the old Herter's Catalog. Got close ups of the markings on the Sako?
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ok guys I bought some screw drivers and this is what I found unfortunately I bent the retainer pin but I can make a replacement. I cleaned her up and found these markings.

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Nice pics

Oh check this
https://www.gunandgame.com/threads/b...d-p-inc.42460/
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Some info on your trigger

https://books.google.com/books?id=_n...r%20co&f=false
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