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Old 03-22-2018, 10:52 AM
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Okay, I have avoided Airsoft because I need another hobby like I need a hole in my head.
So my son gets invited to a birthday party airsoft event up at Warped Ops in Castaic. The guys dad is a friend so he asks me to go along. We are officially hooked.

I don't have a mask so I rent one (and a pretty nice KWA M4) full face mask getting fogged up in the cold right away.

First thing I notice is some of the other guys are wearing standard shooting glasses and it's okay. Of course I left my range bag at home.

The next thing I notice is that some people have wire mesh occulars, and face masks.

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My question is would a fencing mask made of heavy duty mesh made to resist steel longsword hits and thrusts be acceptable?

My son and I have these and they provide full head protection and I can wear my glasses under them.

http://www.woodenswords.com/product_...sk.warrior.htm
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Don't know the answer to tour question, but I would not scrimp on safety gear, especially for the eyes.

If it is like paintball, you are as likely to get hit from behind by friendly fire as you ate from the front, do that side and side-angle eye protection is pretty key.
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Old 03-22-2018, 1:44 PM
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Don't know the answer to tour question, but I would not scrimp on safety gear, especially for the eyes.

If it is like paintball, you are as likely to get hit from behind by friendly fire as you ate from the front, do that side and side-angle eye protection is pretty key.

Most folk don't have full face even out there, some just goggles (under 18 requires full face).
These masks IMHO are far superior all around, vision, breathability, no fogging and superior protection unless I am missing something, which is why I am asking. For sparring we require back of the head protection.

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Use a standard airsoft fullface mask with an anti fogging additive. Do not use glasses or anything else. I have personally shattered player’s glasses, nearly removing several eyes. You need your mouth protected as well I have cracked a girl’s tooth in half due to an open mouth and zero protection. Some rounds can do damage to the throat area as well. Heads up.

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Old 03-22-2018, 9:07 PM
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This^^^. I took a bb through my nose from a guy 300ft away (safe distance for high velocity rifles) he aimed at my chest amd I happened to duck at the same time. Made for a hell of an ER story though.
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Pyramex I-Force Sporty Dual Pane Anti-Fog Goggle by I-Force
Link: http://a.co/gM9I75B

OneTigris 6" Foldable Half Face Mesh Mask Military Style Comfortable Adjustable Tactical Lower Face Protective Mask 9 Colors Available by OneTigris
Link: http://a.co/cfyEGVq

Together are a popular low cost combo. The glasses are so popular that some airsoft brands resell them for 2-3X more money. Some fields require ear coverage, so there is also a OneTigris that offers that and also another version that is slightly smaller for kids and women...
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dye I4 is a good mask, hugs the checks decent so you can look down a rds easier, I put my rds on a raised mount. The goggles do not fog and you can change lenses to shaded or clear very easy depending on your needs for the day.
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You can wear fencing masks but they're a bit bulky for airsoft. I have used them for certain scenario costumes. I would wear range goggles underneath as BB shrapnel does get through. Avoid airsoft mesh goggles that are sold by themselves. People have had scratched corneal damage as a result. I can personally attest to getting BB parts in my eyes, thankfully no permanent damage to my eyes. But never again.

As you get more serious into the game, you'll probably want to go for a more MilSim look. That's why full-face mesh masks aren't common. ANSI rated eye goggles with mesh lowers are the best way to go. Mesh lower face masks do not fog as your breath does not get caught in them.
https://www.evike.com/products/57353/
In addition, the I recommend goggles with integrated fans. https://www.evike.com/products/42353/

Range glasses by themselves are unsafe in almost all cases as they do not stay over the eyes and unless you're buying expensive Gargoyles, their frames will not withstand multiple BB hits. http://www.femmefataleairsoft.co.uk/...r-goggles.html

I recommend Moondog Defog. I developed the defog solution because of my poor experience in airsoft. https://www.evike.com/products/29789/


You can read more on my thoughts on eye-pro here: http://www.nycairsoft.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=56
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Exactly what I was looking for. Thank you!

I saw the mesh goggles and thought "My mask is far sturdier, with a tighter weave than that." and worried about particles getting in on the goggles.

Then I thought why not just wear the mask?

Good breathing and visibility, side of the head protection, and back if I want it and I can wear my prescription shatter resistant glasses underneath.

You can paint a full face mesh mask to look pretty cool too.

But that said, I think I'll go with your advice, and get something made for it.

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You can wear fencing masks but they're a bit bulky for airsoft. I have used them for certain scenario costumes. I would wear range goggles underneath as BB shrapnel does get through. Avoid airsoft mesh goggles that are sold by themselves. People have had scratched corneal damage as a result. I can personally attest to getting BB parts in my eyes, thankfully no permanent damage to my eyes. But never again.

As you get more serious into the game, you'll probably want to go for a more MilSim look. That's why full-face mesh masks aren't common. ANSI rated eye goggles with mesh lowers are the best way to go. Mesh lower face masks do not fog as your breath does not get caught in them.
https://www.evike.com/products/57353/
In addition, the I recommend goggles with integrated fans. https://www.evike.com/products/42353/

Range glasses by themselves are unsafe in almost all cases as they do not stay over the eyes and unless you're buying expensive Gargoyles, their frames will not withstand multiple BB hits. http://www.femmefataleairsoft.co.uk/...r-goggles.html

I recommend Moondog Defog. I developed the defog solution because of my poor experience in airsoft. https://www.evike.com/products/29789/


You can read more on my thoughts on eye-pro here: http://www.nycairsoft.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=56
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I run googles over my glasses that are full seal. I will then wear either the mesh mask to protect my teeth or I run the mask that I use on my motorcycle. The motorcycle mask is just material and neopream but I run a DMR and have to stay 100 feet so not to worried about the face or teeth. If we go to cqb I will run the mesh.
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A lot of good infor posted above. I just did a quick read through and I don’t know if it was mentioned as was the ear pro required on some fields such as SC Village. Some fields require full seal goggles or eye pro as opposed to shooting glasses. Fwiw I have seen guys get bbs that went under their full seal goggles and heard of bbs penetrating the mesh masks. As stated above a full mask whether it be a fencing mask, dye mask or otherwise will limit your field of view and ability to get a good cheek weld. Yeah I know it’s now real steel but. Still helps when trying to aim whether it be iron sights or an optic.
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A lot of good infor posted above. I just did a quick read through and I don’t know if it was mentioned as was the ear pro required on some fields such as SC Village. Some fields require full seal goggles or eye pro as opposed to shooting glasses. Fwiw I have seen guys get bbs that went under their full seal goggles and heard of bbs penetrating the mesh masks. As stated above a full mask whether it be a fencing mask, dye mask or otherwise will limit your field of view and ability to get a good cheek weld. Yeah I know it’s now real steel but. Still helps when trying to aim whether it be iron sights or an optic.
Thanks for the reply!
Actually FoV is perfect, but yeah, no cheek weld. As for ears, you would have the mesh along with 350N padding. I'd trust it against a steel bb.

My main concern was about spalling, and next was whether they would be allowed. Probably going with Moondogs recommendations, but I think the answer is that a good fencing mask is sufficient with eyepro under it, just as with any mesh IMHO.
http://www.woodenswords.com/HEMA_Fen...ask.deluxe.htm
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I haven't played any airsoft since probably 2008-09 but at that time the most common mask were just regular ol' JT Spectra (or similar) paintball masks.

For a while when I was still wearing contacts, I would just roll in ballistic glasses and a shemagh, but ultimately I just dealt with the imperfections of lightweight paintball style masks once my astigmatism got too severe for contacts.

Echoing others, I would definitely spend the money on a good mask. We were playing in a match one time where a friend got shot in the tooth, though a bush and it broke his tooth in half. The shooter felt pretty terrible about it (me).
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