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Old 05-08-2018, 6:50 PM
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I've spent a lot of money there, but I've had enough of them. I'm sending this in to the CEO directly along with a letter voicing my opposition to their stance on the 2nd amendment. It may or may not ever reach him, but someone will open it, and when they do, message received.

And if anyone wants to send any letters or their cards here you go:

345 Court St.
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Contact: Edward Stack
Role: Chairman and CEO
Phone: (724) 273-3400
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the ceo doesnt care. he just hired anti-2a lobbyists to combat the NRA in DC.
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the ceo doesnt care. he just hired anti-2a lobbyists to combat the NRA in DC.
He (and more so stockholders) will care when profits drop.
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That's going to hurt.
I imagine they don't sell a ton of Springfield rifles, but they probably move a ton of Mossberg 500's and Maverick 88's

If Remington tells them to take a hike, they'll be out of the gun business.
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MKS Supply (Hi Point) dropped them too.

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Sporting goods stores are a tough business. Dicks is putting nails in their own coffin. Let them continue and die off.
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Dicks is dead to me. FP do u copy?
I will never spend another dollar with them.
I said the same exact thing about sports chalet....
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Buy one share of their stock, DKS on the nasdaq, and you get voting rights and the right to attend any company share holder meetings.
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Buy one share of their stock, DKS on the nasdaq, and you get voting rights and the right to attend any company share holder meetings.


I bought two guns from them in the year before this madness started, had a gold credit card and spent a good amount there. Canceled it, and points account, and not been back in for anything. This idiocy is hurting them significantly already, hence why he has decided to double down and hope the other buyers step up because they are bleeding 2A supporters.


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Sporting goods stores are a tough business. Dicks is putting nails in their own coffin. Let them continue and die off.
Yep.
Sport Chalet is gone... never thought it would be them.
Sportmart/Sports Authority likewise chapter 7 (surprise surprise, their web site redirects to Dicks.

There was another one that I remember from when I was in college that's no longer around but can't think of the name.
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They do not even realize that when we 2a folks walk in to see what guns they have on sale, we walk out with sporting equipment, cloths and other gear for our family. They loose all that now.
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They do not even realize that when we 2a folks walk in to see what guns they have on sale, we walk out with sporting equipment, cloths and other gear for our family. They loose all that now.
Not at "my" store (only been in there twice, walked out empty handed both times).
No guns, no ammo. Walmart across the street has plenty of ammo.
And this is a "red" county, so it's not political pressure.

All they have is clothing, golf clubs, weight machines, and a modest fishing section.
Over half of the floor space is overpriced clothing.
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I enjoyed shopping there and bought a 5 wood on my last visit !
Obviously I will NEVER set foot in any Dicks sporting goods store again.
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No Dicks (stores i mean) in northern california I can think of but how about flyers on cars near their stores asking for a boycott? Maybe some irritating picketers on the sidewalks but make sure to be respectful of other walkers. No excuses to bust you. There must be other ways to make it more public and draw them out. Maybe a contest to see who can shut their Dick's down first?
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No Dicks (stores i mean) in northern california I can think of but how about flyers on cars near their stores asking for a boycott? Maybe some irritating picketers on the sidewalks but make sure to be respectful of other walkers. No excuses to bust you. There must be other ways to make it more public and draw them out. Maybe a contest to see who can shut their Dick's down first?
It's tough pulling something like that off.
Can't do anything on private property without the risk of a trespassing charge, so flyers on cars in the lot could be a trigger for that.
There are also civil remedies that would favor the dicks should you actually succeed at significantly impacting business.


And it's not like it's a big secret. It's been all over the news and only people living under a rock don't know.
Of those who know, those who care and would be influenced by on-street efforts are already not going to shop there.
Those who don't care will view you no differently than we view the high school kids during their walkouts.
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i'll keep bouncing those two brain cells off each other and maybe we can come up with new ways to hammer them. The left can violate all the laws they want but we sneeze wrong and we get arrested and sued. at some point we have to develop new tactics. sorry the others are not viable.
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i'll keep bouncing those two brain cells off each other and maybe we can come up with new ways to hammer them. The left can violate all the laws they want but we sneeze wrong and we get arrested and sued. at some point we have to develop new tactics. sorry the others are not viable.
Picket lines used to be the only way. We didn't have cable access channels, much less social media.... but it's not 1975 anymore.
Today, picket lines are still good for extremely localized issues that gather no media attention, like local labor disputes.


The hard work has already been done for us by the dicks making their public statements. They are TRYING to let people know.
Our job is to make contact with people that we deal with who may be like-minded but not completely aware... generally conservative people who may buy clothing from the dicks without thinking, golfers, gym rats, etc....
Get the "casual gun owners" to realize just what a big deal this is and what it really means to California gun owners, and those in the rest of the country.
Let them know that the dicks have hired anti-2A lobbyists to fight the NRA in DC.
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They lost me during the transition when they were chicks with dicks
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Been going there for years and will go even more now. Ammo tends to be more expensive, but once in a while they have killer deals. The one thing I love getting there are EcoSox, they're socks made of bamboo fibers, really great socks and keep the feet dry. Just went today for a fishing license for my son and also bought a few more things while there.
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No Dicks (stores i mean) in northern california I can think of but how about flyers on cars near their stores asking for a boycott? Maybe some irritating picketers on the sidewalks but make sure to be respectful of other walkers. No excuses to bust you. There must be other ways to make it more public and draw them out. Maybe a contest to see who can shut their Dick's down first?


There is a Dicks in Santa Rosa over by Coddington Mall


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Never spent a nickel at Dick's. Never even been inside a Dick's.
Parked in Dick's lot one time to get pasta at the Olive Garden next door.
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Think I bought something on sale at a Dick's once but it was never a store that I regularly visited. Never thought their firearms department had much to offer either.

Just bought 2 rifles, 400 rounds of bulk 308 ammo, some gun cleaning accessories and other things at the Sportsman's Warehouse in Stockton, where I have gotten very good service and is currently my favorite "big box" sporting goods store.
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According to the article, Dicks has gained more customers than it has lost as a result of their gun policies.
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According to the article, Dicks has gained more customers than it has lost as a result of their gun policies.
Fake news. My one any only purchase from them was a marlin .22 rifle. I'll never go back.
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According to the article, Dicks has gained more customers than it has lost as a result of their gun policies.
Fake news. How do they explain that their same store sales are down 2.4% if they are gaining more customers?
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According to the article, Dicks has gained more customers than it has lost as a result of their gun policies.
I'm not surprised. Leftoids are rabidly more tribal than conservative "pro-2A" people.
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Went shopping for some 44 mag ammo yesterday. Turners was around $35/50 and WalMart didn't have any. I had time to kill so I stopped at Dick's. Remington 44 mag ammo was $46/50! They did have Ruger 10/22 rifles for $199.

I didn't spend any money there.
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Fake news. How do they explain that their same store sales are down 2.4% if they are gaining more customers?
The article is correct. Dicks is delivering a 7 cent YOY bump to EPS over Q1 2017.

Net sales are up 4.6%, inventory levels are down slightly due to the run up in sales that then contributed slightly to overall EPS. They have also given higher guidance YOY than previous estimates.

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Same store sales are down but online sales are up, new stores are being opened, some stores are being moved, there are also combo stores with Golf Galaxy etc.

Read through the earnings report here and it will all make sense: https://seekingalpha.com/filing/4048569

Bottom line: Changes in firearms policy has not hurt Dick's yet and *may* have helped (this is not provable). The firearms policy could still hurt Dicks. The longer winter and cold weather did reduce hunting related gear sales overall, so as those people return they may find they no longer want to shop at Dicks, but it seems likely that Dicks will be doing just fine.
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You know they're anti too, right? Big 5 hasn't sold "assault rifles" for at least several years, even in free states.
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Bottom line: Changes in firearms policy has not hurt Dick's yet and *may* have helped (this is not provable). The firearms policy could still hurt Dicks. The longer winter and cold weather did reduce hunting related gear sales overall, so as those people return they may find they no longer want to shop at Dicks, but it seems likely that Dicks will be doing just fine.
Actual Bottom line: this is a business sector where independent sporting goods stores and small chains are disappearing or being bought by Dicks. As a case study in category killers, Dicks market share and Dicks overall sales have increased and will increase -- and we will never know if the policy such as pushing money into the gun control lobby will be negative or positive.
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Actual Bottom line: this is a business sector where independent sporting goods stores and small chains are disappearing or being bought by Dicks. As a case study in category killers, Dicks market share and Dicks overall sales have increased and will increase -- and we will never know if the policy such as pushing money into the gun control lobby will be negative or positive.
Very good point. You are right, that on a particularly long horizon they may actual cover losses with consolidations and M&A activity.

What we can conclude for now is the change in policy at Dick's hasn't hurt YET. The proof is in the numbers. During the most recently reported quarter they did not begin new reportings for new lines of revenue, or material changes as part of acquisition etc. So for one quarter it didn't hurt. To your point however: That isn't a long enough horizon to drive cause/effect relationships yet.
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Very good point. You are right, that on a particularly long horizon they may actual cover losses with consolidations and M&A activity.

What we can conclude for now is the change in policy at Dick's hasn't hurt YET. The proof is in the numbers. During the most recently reported quarter they did not begin new reportings for new lines of revenue, or material changes as part of acquisition etc. So for one quarter it didn't hurt. To your point however: That isn't a long enough horizon to drive cause/effect relationships yet.
Bear in mind that you have to look left and right when viewing the "horizon" and that there is an "horizon" behind and to either side as well.

This article was from August of 2017, well before Dick's started their latest nonsense...

Dick's stock plunges on poor gun and sports sales

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The stock price plummeted 18% after a quarter-to-quarter gain still fell short of expectations. It's the worst day of trading in company history and executives painted a bleak picture going forward...

"The hunting business was very soft, and [same-store] sales declined double digits," said Chief Finance Officer Lee Belitsky in an earnings call, noting that the decline was "worse than expected."

The hunting category includes not only camouflage clothes, deer blinds, trail cameras, duck decoys and tree stands, but also guns. The company sells rifles, shotguns and black-powder guns typically used for hunting, including "small frame" rifles for kids.

Demand for hunting gear has been trending down. Dick's plunge follows anemic earnings earlier this month from Cabela's (CAB), a retailer of guns and other hunting products, and Sturm Ruger (RGR), a gun manufacturer. The Federal Bureau of Investigation reported a plunge in background checks for gun purchases in July...

Dick's does not break out gun sales individually, but sales have experienced an industry-wide decline since the election of President Trump, even though he's a Republican endorsed by the National Rifle Association.

Retailers and customers had stocked up on guns and ammunition expecting Democrat and gun control advocate Hillary Clinton to win, but sales have spiraled downward ever since Trump's victory...

But the market for sporting goods is suffering, too. Sales are down 4.9% through July of this year for the government category including sporting goods, hobby, book and music stores, according to the U.S. Department of Commerce.
This was also from August 2017...

Dick's Sporting Goods Takes Hit as Gun Sales Fall

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Add weak firearms sales to the woes plaguing Dick’s Sporting Goods (DKS, -2.04%)...

Dick’s pointed to sales of hunting gear such as rifles, which chief financial officer Lee Belitsky called “much worse than our expectations” on a conference call, and athletic apparel is key culprits in the shortfall. Firearm sales have fallen significantly since the election of Donald Trump as president, as other chains including Cabela’s have reported, as fears of new gun laws have receded...
In short, it was tempting to declare 'victory' related to boycotting Dick's; but, their drop in sales, in particular, 'hunting,' started well before the boycott or the latest reasons for it. (Note the part I placed in bold/italic in the first quote, then understand that 'firearms' sales have dropped across the board in the industry with Trump's election.)

It's possible that their recent, anti-gun decisions are related to an effort at drawing non-firearms related customers; particularly given that customers for firearms were already 'avoiding' them. In other words, it would not be unusual for a business to target customers they perceive as 'different' than those for a portion of their product mix which is already in decline. Remember, "hunters," those who don't usually buy so-called assault weapons, high capacity magazines, etc. often don't perceive bans on such items as truly anti-2nd Amendment. (Sad, but true and something we see addressed on this site, in one form or another, all the time.)

So, is such a 'marketing strategy' by Dick's one they would perceive as alienating a core niche of customers? Or, is it more likely, that Dick's doesn't perceive those calling for a boycott to be a significant portion of their customers and, thus, don't see much of a 'down side' vs. the potential of attracting 'new' customers?

As you noted earlier...

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Originally Posted by rootuser
Bottom line: Changes in firearms policy has not hurt Dick's yet and *may* have helped (this is not provable). The firearms policy could still hurt Dicks. The longer winter and cold weather did reduce hunting related gear sales overall, so as those people return they may find they no longer want to shop at Dicks, but it seems likely that Dicks will be doing just fine.

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