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Old 04-26-2018, 7:27 AM
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I finally started the process to get CCW. Can anyone please tell me how the shooting qualifications are done? Taking a class soon and Iím very curious what to expect. Signed up with Tremper Tactical.

By the way, do you do the live scan at the Sheriffís office when you do the interview? Or do you go to one of the places that offer the service and pay for the live scan yourself?

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I did my training with Tremper Tactical back in February. It was 3 or 4 hours of classroom followed by about 3 hours of range time. Youíll go through some initial range safe handling exercises. Youíll shoot 50 rounds or so through your first gun at different distances. You will likely get some useful tips on draw/shooting/accuracy techniques (grip, sight alignment, etc). Youíll shoot similar quantities and distances with up to two more pistols youíd like to include on your permit. The entire class was very informative/useful. I highly recommend Steve Tremperís course, and Iíll use him again in a couple years for my re-cert.

As for the live scan youíll do that when you go for the interview, donít do it someplace else.


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Old 05-21-2018, 8:53 AM
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Applied: 3/23/18
Original interview date: 6/26/18 (earliest available at the time)
Rescheduled interview date: 5/16/18

I was asked to give my references a heads-up that they would be receiving an email soon. Just playing the waiting game now!

Also, here's another recommendation for Dave's (831Shooter) CCW class. It isn't a simple "here's the law, now go punch holes in paper" class. He takes the CCW and general awareness mindset very seriously and conveys it in his lessons.

Oh, and he didn't bring politics into the class except when it came to the Bay Area's perception of gun owners. Don't let his Facebook page turn you off of his class if you don't agree with him.
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Old 06-09-2018, 8:02 AM
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Daveís a good guy
He runs other classes also, advanced pistol and rifle that are actually advanced not just longer
Heís also the local fNRA president. So be sure to get on his mailing list for the fNRA dinners if you are interested



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Old 06-09-2018, 11:12 AM
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Daveís a good guy
He runs other classes also, advanced pistol and rifle that are actually advanced not just longer
Heís also the local fNRA president. So be sure to get on his mailing list for the fNRA dinners if you are interested



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I agree. I used his class too. I also recently took a beginner AR course that was excellent. He recommended taking instruction from other instructors as well in order to get a wide variety of input. The only issue with Dave, is that he does not have any law-enforcement or military experience. I donít think that matters all that much because he is very knowledgeable and an excellent instructor. I think Tremper is a retired LEO.

As for my comments previously about taking the course first, I guess I didnít realize that you didnít have to do it first. I was strongly advised by others to have it done, and read something about your application not being complete until you provide your training letter. I just read that the wrong way, I guess.


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Are there any calguns members here that work at the Sheriff's department or have direct contact with the Sheriff or undersheriff? I am asking because I am wondering and hoping that someone can please verify or check if the CCW policy of the Sheriff changed. Or if someone can please help dislodge the backup of CCW applications that need final review and approval.

Apparently, the CCW investigator that was working there when i applied in early March has quit right after i had my interview around end of April. And there was a backlog of applications that were just sitting there. About 4 weeks ago i finally called and asked for update. The new CCW investigator apologized for the long delay in processing. According to her, many of the folders of applicants did not get processed, such as starting the necessary background and records check or the reference emails sent out. She promised that she will get mine processed ASAP, and she is trying to go by application date so people that have been waiting for too long gets done first. So 2 weeks ago i called again for update, and she said she was done processing my application already, and she passed it up the chain of command already. She said it is just sitting at the "commander's desk" together with a stack of other CCW applications just waiting for final review and approval signature.

It has been 2 weeks and there is still no word about it. I can't find a direct email to the Sheriff or undersheriff so i can send an inquiry. The CCW investigator assured me that she reminds the commander about the stack of CCW applications every time she adds more to it. But that is all she can do.

Why is it taking this long to get it done? It is getting frustrating. I paid the fees and did all necessary requirements just like the others also waiting for their CCW. Aren't we entitled to a timely manner in processing the application?
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Why is it taking this long to get it done? It is getting frustrating. I paid the fees and did all necessary requirements just like the others also waiting for their CCW. Aren't we entitled to a timely manner in processing the application?

Iím tempted to say, just be patient. We are lucky enough to live in a county where this is even a possibility. I understand the frustration as I had to deal with a similar backlog last year. However, if you lived in Santa Cruz, Santa Clara, or San Francisco counties, they would laugh at you if you turned in an application. I am in a profession where I deal with the backlog of paperwork all day long, and understand how these things come to happen. When somebody constantly calls requesting that theirs be moved to the top of the list, it makes me want to put it at the bottom. It will happen for you, Iím sure, but it is still a bureaucracy. Just be thankful that the right man won the election




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Old 07-12-2018, 11:49 AM
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It must be pretty bad because my references haven't been contacted yet.
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It must be pretty bad because my references haven't been contacted yet.
When they do, you should be close. Mine was approved less than a week after they were contacted.
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Old 07-12-2018, 2:24 PM
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Old 07-12-2018, 6:06 PM
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When they do, you should be close. Mine was approved less than a week after they were contacted.
It's been more than 2 weeks since my references were all contacted.
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It's been more than 2 weeks since my references were all contacted.

That sucks. I have a friend who is a retired deputy sheriff. Iíll ask him if he knows whatís going on. He still knows a bunch of people at the MSO.


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Old 07-12-2018, 9:29 PM
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I know itís tough but please bare with it a bit. There have been retirements and personnel shuffling recently, not to mention vacations, and ccw got caught up in the midst of it, new ccw assignments have been made and they are working the backlog. Now thatís itís staffed again things should get back to fairly decent application to issue time frame.



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Old 07-13-2018, 9:45 AM
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I know itís tough but please bare with it a bit. There have been retirements and personnel shuffling recently, not to mention vacations, and ccw got caught up in the midst of it, new ccw assignments have been made and they are working the backlog. Now thatís itís staffed again things should get back to fairly decent application to issue time frame.



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I totally understand. Thanks for the info!
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Old 07-13-2018, 10:59 AM
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That makes sense. Just a little bit more patience.
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Old 07-14-2018, 10:30 PM
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monterey county takes months and I mean months to get through your application mine took almost a year to get!
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Old 07-15-2018, 6:35 AM
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monterey county takes months and I mean months to get through your application mine took almost a year to get!

There was a time it took that long, I also know folks that was less than 60 days from app to issue. It depends not only on staffing but DOJ, at time it was taking a year was when DOJ was taking that long for their returns from livescan



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Old 07-24-2018, 10:50 PM
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So I was reviewing the firearms policies of a lot of different corporations and had a question for the other CCW holders of Monterey County. So it is stated in the conditions printed on he back of our cards that we:

ĒShall not possess weapon anywhere prohibited by law or sign.Ē

So what is the general consensus? Many of the businesses listed do not have posted signs on the doors, but may have them posted in the customer service area (like Target does). The sign is possibly posted, but not accessible from the outside. If something goes down and you draw in a store like this, how do you think it would be handled? I havenít looked at Targetís sign in any of the three MC Target stores, but I presume if it is an official policy, it will be posted. Since one can not be reasonably expected to search out the policies of every store, and make sure that it is not posted in some inconspicuous way, do you think this rule applies? My opinion is that if it isnít posted on the door, Iím legal to carry, but if it is posted on the door, by Monterey rules, our permits would be invalid.

This doesnít mean I am going to stop carrying in these locations, but I will be extremely careful to not expose my weapon.

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Old 07-31-2018, 7:18 PM
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My CCW permit was finally signed, and i was able to pick it up today. How about other fellow calgunners waiting for their permit? Did you get any updates?

For fellow calgunners that already have theirs. How do you put your permit in your wallet? I thought it was a joke when someone here mentioned it was huge, but now i know that its true. Did you laminate it then folded it in half so it fits your wallet? Any suggestions?

By the way, i patiently waited, and i did not call asking for updates at the MCSO in the last few weeks. I was surprised to get the call and email yesterday telling me its approved.
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@Bugman - The deputy who signed mine told me the back was only informational for me. Per his instructions, I took a photo of both sides, trimmed it, and laminated the whole thing so it is card sized.
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@Bugman - The deputy who signed mine told me the back was only informational for me. Per his instructions, I took a photo of both sides, trimmed it, and laminated the whole thing so it is card sized.
I will try that, but this is more like 2 cards together. The smallest i can get it trimmed is 3.5 inch by 4.5 inch.
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Folded mine in half and cut/trimmed to 3 1/4 x 2 1/8
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I will try that, but this is more like 2 cards together. The smallest i can get it trimmed is 3.5 inch by 4.5 inch.

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Old 08-01-2018, 6:21 AM
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Great! that makes sense now when folded like that.
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Great! that makes sense now when folded like that.


Scan the front and save as a .jpg file or similar. Then paste it into Word or Photoshop (or whatever is available), shrink it to any size you want, and print it on regular paper and laminate it. I keep the original at home. Copy centers (like UPS) will do all this for you at a small cost if you need help.


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Does anybody know for sure that you can carry a copy of your CCW permit rather than the original??
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My CCW permit was finally signed, and i was able to pick it up today. How about other fellow calgunners waiting for their permit? Did you get any updates?
I haven't heard anything since my May 16th interview and my references haven't been contacted yet. I figure if my references haven't been contacted within the next couple weeks I'll give MCSO a call to make sure it's still in the queue. After that I'll leave them alone until I'm called in.

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Does anybody know for sure that you can carry a copy of your CCW permit rather than the original??
The CCW is a piece of paper. They recommended that I laminate it. So yes, make copies. And it is just a little too big for the wallet. Pretty sad, really. But I think it is the state’s fault rather than the Sheriff. Maybe someone else knows about that. I have non-resident permits from three states, and they are all nice plastic cards with photos.
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I haven't heard anything since my May 16th interview and my references haven't been contacted yet. I figure if my references haven't been contacted within the next couple weeks I'll give MCSO a call to make sure it's still in the queue. After that I'll leave them alone until I'm called in.

Congrats on your CCW!
Thanks! Hopefully you will get yours soon too.

The clerk that is processing the CCW applications now seems very nice and accomodating when i talked to her on the phone and when i picked up my permit. It does not hurt to ask after waiting a few more weeks.
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Ive live here in monterey since march and am getting ready to apply for my concealed carry. I saw i need refrences .....thats isnt family..are in laws considered family? also do refrences have to be in state as im new here? Im also a honorably discharged veteran...does this help speed up the process? thanks
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Ive live here in monterey since march and am getting ready to apply for my concealed carry. I saw i need refrences .....thats isnt family..are in laws considered family? also do refrences have to be in state as im new here? Im also a honorably discharged veteran...does this help speed up the process? thanks
I don't think it matters if it's out of state references. They email them a questionnaire. Probably better if not family member as they noted that in the instructions.
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Here's another question to fellow Monterey County residents. Do you know what is the type of duty ammo the MCSO or MPD use? I was wondering because when i looked around in the CCW discussion boards, there's a few advice that you should try to use same ammo as the local law enforcement uses. The reason is that in civil litigation in case you ever get involved in an incident, the lawyers cannot use the kind of ammo against you since you use the same as the police in your area.
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Here's another question to fellow Monterey County residents. Do you know what is the type of duty ammo the MCSO or MPD use? I was wondering because when i looked around in the CCW discussion boards, there's a few advice that you should try to use same ammo as the local law enforcement uses. The reason is that in civil litigation in case you ever get involved in an incident, the lawyers cannot use the kind of ammo against you since you use the same as the police in your area.
I dont know but its an interesting topic and now id like to know. I would think any ammo available wouldnt be an issue otherwise it would be prohibited. I personally like 180gr hydrashok
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Has anybody successfully made modifications to their firearms on their permit? Curious what the processing time is.
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Here's another question to fellow Monterey County residents. Do you know what is the type of duty ammo the MCSO or MPD use? I was wondering because when i looked around in the CCW discussion boards, there's a few advice that you should try to use same ammo as the local law enforcement uses. The reason is that in civil litigation in case you ever get involved in an incident, the lawyers cannot use the kind of ammo against you since you use the same as the police in your area.

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I haven't heard anything since my May 16th interview and my references haven't been contacted yet. I figure if my references haven't been contacted within the next couple weeks I'll give MCSO a call to make sure it's still in the queue. After that I'll leave them alone until I'm called in.



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I think youíre still in the common timeline
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March 31 - Submitted CCW Application
June 27 - Interviewed
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Here's my timeline also...

March 9 - submitted application
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March 31 - Submitted CCW Application
June 27 - Interviewed
August 7 - Approved
Interesting...sounds like I should definitely give them a call to make sure my application didn't get nudged out of the stack. My references haven't heard anything yet.

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Applied: 3/23/18
Original interview date: 6/26/18 (earliest available at the time)
Rescheduled interview date: 5/16/18
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