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Old 12-01-2018, 9:14 AM
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I am looking to get my kid a Graphics Card for x-miss and I am confused.

He has a decent setup and a nice curved 32" monitor. We put it together from recommendations made here last year but at the time Graphics Cards were too $. He uses it for gaming.

I figured I would narrow it down to an 8 GB Gigabyte. But (to me) the specs look about the same and are priced from $300 to over $900.

https://www.amazon.com/s/s/ref=sr_nr...nid=2528832011

All the Graphics Ram Type is gddr5 or 5x or 6 but sometimes the 6 is less exspencive than the 5.

The Graphics Coprocessor's are often different but sometimes use names that mean nothing to me, e.g. AMD Radeon RX & Nvidia GeForce.
The other Coprocessor's have #'s - GeForce GTX 1070 & GeForce RTX 2070. IS the 2070 that much better than the 1070? Important or trivial?

As an example of my confusion (ignorance) look at thease two that are about the same price
Graphics Ram Size:8 GB
Graphics Coprocessor:GeForce GTX 1070
Graphics Ram Type:gddr5
Graphics Card Interface: pci e
Memory Bus Width:256 bits
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Graphics Ram Size:8 GB
Graphics Coprocessor:GeForce RTX 2070
Graphics Ram Type:gddr6
Graphics Card Interface: pci e
Memory Bus Width:256 bits
The second one has a bad review and claims the 2070 has known issues.

Any advice is welcome. Looking to spend +- 500 so if there is something else I should be looking at let me know.
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Old 12-01-2018, 9:16 AM
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Im out of the loop but i do know the GTX series have been great to me.
https://www.pcgamer.com/the-best-graphics-cards/
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I never buy first gen graphics cards. Let the bugs get worked out on the GeForce 20xx series for now. Stick with the 10XX series of cards. You can find some deals on GTX 1080 cards that will pretty much play any title at 1080p ultra settings. If you want to play at 1440 or 4k with ultra settings then you'll want a 1080ti, but the prices have gone through the roof on these since the release of the RTX cards. They're currently priced almost the same as a 2080ti.

Performance for a 2070 appear to be on par with a 1080 and priced similarly, so it's your call. However, drivers for the 1080 are more mature and less likely to cause you headaches.
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1070 or 1080. Data miners are keeping prices higher than MSRP which is already ridiculous.
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I'm still rocking a GTX 780.

You can get it at Newegg for $120 factory refurbished.
I did 5 years ago and it still plays whatever I want.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...82E16814487014
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Old 12-01-2018, 9:07 PM
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I'm still rocking a GTX 780.

You can get it at Newegg for $120 factory refurbished.
I did 5 years ago and it still plays whatever I want.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...82E16814487014
Yeah but that's not going to play many modern games decently, especially if OPs son has a 1440 res monitor, which sounds like it if it's a 32" curved. That's a few generations back.

If you can find a good deal on a 1080ti that would be the way to go. You MIGHT be able to find one on sale for between $600-$650 or so. The performance improvement over a 1080 is significant. If that's not an option and the cost difference between a 1080 and 2070 is negligible, I'd get a 2070. Yeah it's a new platform but nvidia is very good about updating their drivers regularly and any issues which might arise will most likely get resolved with a driver update.

Stay away from AMD cards. I like them as a company and their CPUs are not bad, but their GPUs and drivers can't hold a candle to nvidia.

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Go register at the forums at overclock3d.net and ask there. Post exactly what your current rig consists of parts wise, and your budget. Really smart PC geeks there.

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If you can find a good deal on a 1080ti that would be the way to go. You MIGHT be able to find one on sale for between $600-$650 or so.
Thank you everyone for your input...

I just got totally hammered by sticker shock! The cheapest 1080 TI I could find is in the 800 to $900 range. Unfortunately, all those turned out to be used. The least expensive new TI I can find is around $1,200. That's not going to happen.

I guess I'll probably end up getting a 1080 in the five or $600 range. being that his current graphics card is 4 years old I'm sure it'll be quite the Improvement either way.

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I just got totally hammered by sticker shock! The cheapest 1080 TI I could find is in the 800 to $900 range. Unfortunately, all those turned out to be used. The least expensive new TI I can find is around $1,200. That's not going to happen.
Wow, I didn't realize they jumped that much in price! A couple weeks ago you could get a new one for half that. Yeah that's stupid to pay that much for a 1080ti. You could get 2 1080s and use them in SLI for less than that and performance would destroy a 1080ti.

A 1080 isn't a bad choice, but just so you're aware a 2070 does perform better and is more future proof, and they're about the same price. Something to consider.

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You can find a GTX 1080 new on eBay for around 5-600. I would probably go that route if budget allows.
A 1060 or 1070 would still be a fine choice and can be had for much cheaper. Will play new games though not always on max settings.
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Get a used 1070 on eBay for around $250. Best bang for your buck right now
EVGA FTW or SC.

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What game(s) does he play? Does his monitor run 4k resolution?
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I think the 1070 and 1080's are your best bet ATM. I run a 1070 and it has been a great card for games requiring serious graphics power. I am not running a VR setup, but these cards do support it.


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EVGA FTW or SC.
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Old 12-03-2018, 12:15 PM
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What game(s) does he play? Does his monitor run 4k resolution?
I'm not sure which games, the res is 1440. I don't think it can go to 4k?


[QUOTE=MrFancyPants;22398034You could get 2 1080s and use them in SLI for less than that and performance would destroy a 1080ti.

[/QUOTE]

Just looked up SLI. I can get him a 1080 or 2070 now and for an upgrade can go with a sli and another card. Can you mix cards? A 1090 with a 2070?

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I'm not sure which games, the res is 1440. I don't think it can go to 4k?
You probably won't need to go with the higher dollar cards then. I went with a -ti card to run on a 55" in 4K and it makes a difference if the monitor can handle the resolution, but the display will define the point of limiting returns on the card. Without knowing what games he plays, it's hard to definitively advise, but the above suggestions are very reasonable. Don't forget to use a good quality HDMI cord, in the shortest length that will connect the ports.
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bDon't forget to use a good quality HDMI cord, in the shortest length that will connect the ports.
I didn't even think about the HDMI cord. When they first came out the saying was digital is digital expensive cords are a ripoff, there is no difference between a 3 & $50 cable. I take it that it is no longer the case?
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I didn't even think about the HDMI cord. When they first came out the saying was digital is digital expensive cords are a ripoff, there is no difference between a 3 & $50 cable. I take it that it is no longer the case?
I tried to run 4k on a long cheapo cord when I changed my card. No picture. I changed to a fancy 3' cord and it runs like a buttered ice cube now. Picture rendering is very smooth with all settings set to max.
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I would go with GIGABYTE Radeon RX 580 8GB, great card for the price. If you don’t mind putting more money down then the 1070TI performs better.
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I'm not sure which games, the res is 1440. I don't think it can go to 4k?




Just looked up SLI. I can get him a 1080 or 2070 now and for an upgrade can go with a sli and another card. Can you mix cards? A 1090 with a 2070?
The monitor resolution is fixed, so no you can't change it to 4k. Many times the in game settings won't let you choose a resolution higher than the monitor will support.

SLI has to be the same model GPU, no mix and match. A dedicated PhysX card can be different, but that's beyond your application. Really it's better to get a single more powerful GPU rather than 2 less powerful and use SLI, as SLI can have compatibility issues though I've never experienced any. I currently run 2 GTX 970s.

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fyi, nvidia discontinued the 1080 ti's already due to the new RTX cards (and all the testing saw that the 1080ti's were actually on par with all current gen games, if not actually slightly better at cheaper price)

now the best you can get is the 1080 or the 1070ti.

really wish i bought a 1080ti when they started to come back in stock and the mining craze was slowing down.
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If the prices on 1080's are beyond you, you really won't go wrong with a 1070ti or even a 1070.

A good 1070 (something overclocked with good reviews) will get you along around 90FPS at 1440 in Battlefield V on mostly "High" settings.

Right now, only one game actually on the market supports ray tracing, the killer feature of the 20-- series. Drop 250-300 and the kid will be happy (or should be) for three years. Then you can revisit and get on board with a more mature RTX technology with some relatively modestly priced cards.
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The 1070ti is around $450 at New Egg right now.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...0ti&Submit=ENE

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I would go with GIGABYTE Radeon RX 580 8GB, great card for the price. If you don’t mind putting more money down then the 1070TI performs better.
ditto, RX580 is pretty good value for the dollar.
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So I ended up going with

ASUS Turbo RTX 2080 8GB GDDR6 VR Ready Gaming Graphics Card Graphic Cards TURBO-RTX2080-8G
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So I ended up going with

ASUS Turbo RTX 2080 8GB GDDR6 VR Ready Gaming Graphics Card Graphic Cards TURBO-RTX2080-8G
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https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Oh, I just came here to post a more budget friendly 1070 Ti for $350 (select amazon as the seller)

but can't go wrong with a new RTX!
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Thank you everyone for your input...

I just got totally hammered by sticker shock! The cheapest 1080 TI I could find is in the 800 to $900 range. Unfortunately, all those turned out to be used. The least expensive new TI I can find is around $1,200. That's not going to happen.

I guess I'll probably end up getting a 1080 in the five or $600 range. being that his current graphics card is 4 years old I'm sure it'll be quite the Improvement either way.
The 1050Ti might just be the way to go.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...0ti&Submit=ENE
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So I ended up going with

ASUS Turbo RTX 2080 8GB GDDR6 VR Ready Gaming Graphics Card Graphic Cards TURBO-RTX2080-8G
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List Price: $859.99
Price: $699.99 Free Shipping for Prime Members
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https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Nicely done. NVDIA also seemed to have tweaked driver performance for ray tracing so that it is actually reasonably usable in gaming. Looks promising.
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