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Two studies: "memory B cells", hyaluronan
https://www.upi.com/Health_News/2020...3371601912308/
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As for the other article, the sample size is incredibly small. In fact, both articles suffer from very small sample sizes. This doesn't mean we should dismiss either of these proposals, but I'd be interested in hearing more study done into it. Quote:
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Yep, Dr. Scott Atlas made this point about a week ago in a WH presser. He contradicted Dr Redfield who testfied to congress a couple weeks ago that 90% of the population is at risk. Dr. Atlas and some other experts say that's just not true, there is T cell immunity as well as other types of immunity to this virus. That would explain why only 1/3 of the people on board the cruise ship in Japan who had been on the ship for near a month got the virus. Some are immune. Of course this gets censored by the tech giants as the only acceptable source of information is the anointed experts spreading disinfo in the new 'science tribe' that doesn't follow science but insists they do. Think AGW where no debate is allowed any longer. https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2020/...dicting-w-h-o/ Here's an exchange from the WH presser: Quote:
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I'd like to see data on the specific actions taken elsewhere that gives some source of proof that we could have acted differently and prevented some of the spread. Of course one cannot overlook the elephant in the room of 25 million Americans taking to the streets in the middle of the worst global pandemic in history while the members of the 'science tribe' told the public that the risk of black genocide by police was worse than the risk of catching the Wuflu and therefor justified to protest and riot and not isolate and try to stop the spread. Give me something concrete here.
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And then there's a nature paper, that suggests cross reactive T-cell immunity is rare:
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-020-18450-4 The only correct answer is: "We do not know whether cross reactive T-cell immunity is A) protective or B) common." |
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What am I missing? -- Michael |
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So absence of antibodies does not necessarily imply no ( or very rare ) reaction by T-cells to an infection...? As far as cross reactive T-cell immunity goes, I read a little while ago... https://www.bmj.com/content/370/bmj.m3563
: shrug : -- Michael |
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Cross-reactivity and antigenic diversity |
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Just post the link to Swede article(s) and we can see if it has anything to do with the other links. |
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https://news.ki.se/immunity-to-covid...sts-have-shown The article in Cell: https://www.cell.com/cell/fulltext/S...674(20)31008-4 -- Michael |
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2) There is evidence of cross-reactivity, but that's not surprising really since cross-reactivity has been in medical science for centuries. The trick is finding a good cross-reactive virus candidate that's not MERS or SARS1.0. 3) CD8 T-cells need to be activated just like CD4 T-cells, so some kind of exposure and adaptation must happen before you run across COVID-19. You can't assume your CD8 cells have gone through this anymore than you can assume a gun is not loaded. 4) The biggest takeaway is that there's enough going on in that paper to support efforts to produce a vaccine. Cross-reactivity was the basis for the first vaccines against small-pox, and the word vaccine is derived from "vaca", which is in reference to cow-pox. *If a Systematic Review is #1 then cross-sectional drops to #6. Last edited by HibikiR; 10-07-2020 at 5:37 AM.. |
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