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Tinted CHP car. Bay Area
I got passed py a fully stickered, black and white interceptor. Windows were all blacked out, and the hood had a killer louver job on it.
Is this some sort of a demonstrator?? I also think its unfair he gets tint and I don't, but whatever. Was a sick looking ride, and I doubt it was a private car, as there was a standard intercepter behind it. This was on 880 around Oakland. What was it?? So
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Personally, I rarely ever wrote tickets for tinted windows over the years because I think in SoCal it just gets too darn hot in the car without tint. The law needs to be changed to allow tint to safe levels. Limo tint on driver and passenger windows, naw....too dark, but a light tint helps keep the car cool and doesn't impact visibility inor out. Just my $0.02 worth.
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Bunch of local agencies have tints. If you want them with out a fix it ticket, go to the academy, go through a stringent hiring process, then several months of FTO, and then roll the dice every night you go 10-8 that you may never see your family again. It has perks. Sorry if I went on a tangent. Been a long week.
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Had them bring prisoners direct from Pelican Bay by aircraft to a local airport, then by CHP radio car to the court on a couple of cases. Probably the exception rather than the norm.
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I drive a lot for work. I've seen may CHP suv's and PU trucks with no markings and tinted windows.
The only hint you have is the red/blue on the rear view and lower right rear window. They seem to do a good business and generating much revenue on Hwy4 between Brentwood to Pinole. It appears that are many young adults in thousands dollar specials that think Hwy4 is a Nascar track. -g
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Remind me to never come in here and ask a question. Lest I be attacked by the very ones who are sworn to protect, and have a post deleted for calling them on their actions, whilst their attacks stay. Good job at keepin that elitist mentality flowin mod.
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These rules were established by the owner of this site, Kestryll and we moderators enforce them. If you have a problem with the rules of this particular forum or any of the forums on this site, it is certainly your prerogative to tell him that you disagree with his rules. You did not ask any question; civil or otherwise. You posted comments that no leo in here has any desire to read or see. They are unacceptable in this forum. I will not have to remind you to never come into this forum and ask a question because you will not be coming into this forum anymore. Good bye. |
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sworn to protect, not put up with your comments. I'd ask what happened, but I don't want to get booted
Last edited by retired; 12-02-2012 at 8:53 PM.. |
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The King Air does that all the time, don't know about Chippies...
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You think it's not fair that a GOVERNMENT OWNED vehicle has tinted windows???? Do you remember the old California Government owned vehicle license plates? They used to have a big "E" followed by the plate number. That "E" stood for "EXEMPT." Or like we used to joke, "Excuse me." Just remember, that "exempt" status still exists on governement owned vehicles. Technically, it really means exempt from paying registration fees...... Oh no, I shouldn't have told you that fact. Now you're gonna hate even more! Just forget the whole thing........
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ETA: terdog beat me to it and I hadn't seen his comment before replying. Last edited by BillCA; 12-03-2012 at 8:12 AM.. |
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If the vehicles primary duty is traffic enforcement, the vehicle must be marked. I drove an unmarked unit for years and wrote tickets from time to time, but my primary duty wasn't traffic enforcement. Tickets are 100% valid. I had people fight them on that grounds, but never lost one in court.
CHP has a lot of assignments where their primary duty is NOT traffic enforcement.
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Where the line is crossed, however, is if the officer issues multiple citations from the vehicle using radar or is observed watching traffic in order to issue citations -- instead of working his follow-up investigation or "other" duty. |
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http://www.caranddriver.com/photo-ga...ce-interceptor a little on the Taurus and Explorer police vehicles: The lineup will include the Taurus-based sedan or Explorer-based Interceptor Utility with a 3.5-liter 280-bhp V-6 and front- or all-wheel drive. The sedan comes in a high-pursuit version that matches the 365-bhp EcoBoost V-6 with AWD now Im driving a little 150hp focus and would be so happy to press the pedal down on any 365hp tubo AWD car. To be honest I would probably piss myself a little but it would be totally worth it
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For almost two decades, Dodge was the definitive police car. If you took one apart it was almost a different car. Beefier frame, bigger suspension parts from ball joints to torsion bars. Severe duty seats, special speedometer, better electrical system and their pearl white steering wheel (a blessing on hot days). Engines ranged from a 318 to 440 cid V8. They were plenty fast for everyday police work but could be outrun. I reminded fellow hot-rodders they could outrun Fords, Chevys and Dodges, but you can't outrun Motorola. IMO, GM never seemed to grasp the need for a better frame & electrical system on police cars. They simply added gussets to the frame for Taxi service cars, then sold those as police cars too. Maybe that changed with the 1990's Caprice "Combat Cars". Ford is trying hard to keep the police market after it's Crown Vic success. The new Taurus plays to that by keeping the fuel consumption lower and offering police-customized interiors. |
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Just another reason I will only buy Ford and not GM or Chrysler/Dodge
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My mind flashes back to police work in the 70's when it was common for agencies to have a seal on the shotgun that was broken when you chambered a round. Deploying a shotgun without jacking a round in the chamber results in just having a bulky club in your hand. When I was with Glendora PD you had to write a memo to the chief any time the seal was broken on the shotgun. Because of that, guys were hesitant to deploy it when appropriate and lost their familiarity with the weapon. That same policy had an impact on the outcome of the CHP Newhall shooting where four CHP officers were killed. In the below video, one of the officers comments about the seal on the shotgun. This shooting happened in 1970. Glendora PD still had a similar policy when I joined them in 1977. Some agencies are slow learners. http://j59.video2.blip.tv/8430004874...Tragedy898.m4v This video was a reenactment by LASD for training. I knew a couple of the deputies in this video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QX3ux...e_gdata_player
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If an officer needs to get more familiar with any weapon I would think training should be done before the need to deploy such a firearm on duty. I think it was an option but my idea is it is a good idea when looking at protection for the officer and protection from a would be thief looking to steal a gun. If they wanted Im sure they could program multiple codes for a non-alert release to allow removal for cleaning, inspection, ammo checks etc.
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Since Im not a LEO I dont know what the job really calls for but Im guessing you didnt stop off for some trap/skeet shooting in a rural area while on duty. That would be fun though.
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The new Fords are pretty slick. The car drives well & is very comfortable with the new seats. The AWD is a bit pushy in tight turns but still way more nimble than a CV. The SUV (It's not an Explorer. Taurus with an Explorer like body) feels like a tall CV. Mono frame so they won't take the beating that a CV would without repair but still have the makings of a solid CV replacement. |
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Everyone gets trained initially, and scheduled in service training. We carried Ithica Model 37 shotguns. At the start of every shift the barrel was removed, the firing pin checked, reassembled and function tested before loading up and hitting the field. Frequent handling makes you more familiar with your equipment. Seals on guns or alarms on locks means the guns only come out as a last resort and perishable skills diminish. When the budget gets tight, in service training is one of the first things to get cut by the administration.
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audiopro74 will no longer be joining us.
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I agree with Ron-Solo. There are times when you want that shotgun for specific types of calls. There are also times when you're in a dark, lonely place stopping a car with multiple people and your internal radar pings hard & fast. With a passenger officer, he can slip the shotgun out and have it at the ready. Alone, you unlock the shotgun and lay it in the driver's side where you can get to it easier if the stop goes to hell in handbasket. Cops can do some stupid things with shotguns too. That often results in over-reactions by CLEOs and administrative staff. One local agency kept their shotguns in the cars as shifts rotated. One officer had developed a lazy habit of not physically checking the weapon before rolling out, but simply checking the safety's status by pulling the trigger. As you can imagine, statistical odds caught up to him one evening when he blew a large hole in the roof of a 2-month-old '73 Dodge Polara. After that, each officer was required to remove the shotgun from the mount, unload the gun and physically inspect the chamber and barrel, count the rounds, reload & re-secure. If you found anything in the chamber (live round, pencil, candy bar wrappers, etc.) you had to write it up. The negligent officer rode a desk for six months and endured the complaints from the field cops over the new procedures. |
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