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Old 09-10-2018, 11:24 PM
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Default What if you're not sure if previous owner did the right paperwork before you PPT?

Here's a scenario. What if you were considering to buy a firearm from a guy via PPT at a FFL(2 CA residents in CA), but based on comments they made, you don't know if they did the paperwork properly when they received it. Can you buy it? Can you get in trouble? Can they get in trouble?

Example: Something like "My [relative X] gave it to me but somebody told me I didn't need to register it".
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Unless it is in the system as stolen, the DOJ seems to care less who the seller is.

I am sure the system gets a flag if the seller pops up as prohibited. Otherwise DOJ seems to just want the gun registered to somebody, and if that person is the buyer....all the better. Makes sense to me.

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If I've said it once I've said it 50 times. If you're doing a PPT with somebody get the details in writing. Example: What happens to the funds/ firearm if the buyer fails background check. What happens to the funds should the DROS be cancelled by the dealer, DES, or buyer. Etc......have it up front to protect both parties. Maybe something in there about buyer to receive full refund plus DROS Fees....you know something simple but just so both parties know what is agreed upon before hand.
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If I've said it once I've said it 50 times. If you're doing a PPT with somebody get the details in writing. Example: What happens to the funds/ firearm if the buyer fails background check. What happens to the funds should the DROS be cancelled by the dealer, DES, or buyer. Etc......have it up front to protect both parties. Maybe something in there about buyer to receive full refund plus DROS Fees....you know something simple but just so both parties know what is agreed upon before hand.
Did we ever do one of these as a sample one could use? Kemasa dug up the reg that already requires a PPT to be in writing:
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4033. Criteria for Processing Section 28050 Transactions.

(a) All dealers shall process a section 28050 transaction upon the request of the transferor. All such requests shall:

(1) Be in writing and contain all of the terms of the transaction, and

(2) Be signed by the transferor and the transferee.

(b) Except as otherwise provided in Penal Code sections 28050 through 28070, a dealer shall process a section 28050 transaction in the same manner as if it were a dealer retail sale.
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True. But I’ve never A. Seen any customers put it in writing or B. Turned away a PPT because it’s not in writing. All I can do is suggest while they’re in the store. But it never happens.
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I thought maybe EBR had posted that once. I couldn’t find it Librarian. I thought I remembered seeing it in a thread about 5 or so years ago.
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