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California economy ranking in the world Here's more evidence that the California Democrat party has ruined California... California named worst state for business in magazine survey The Great California Exodus California, a bad bet for business 254 companies left California in 2011 California — toxic for business Last edited by MolonLabe2008; 03-22-2013 at 8:09 AM.. |
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I believe the reason most "Californians" favor tighter gun control or an all out ban is because most don't own guns. I'm sure party lines have some influence, but it's a lot easier to "give up" something when you don't use it or care for it. As in 26% vs 36% of households owning guns in California compared to the nation, respectively.
So I feel an important initial step would be to change the culture and the mind-set of next generation. Namely, that guns are not inherently evil in themselves. That shooting sports are fun and being to challenge yourself to shoot tighter groups and whatnot. Last edited by neomedic; 03-22-2013 at 8:02 AM.. |
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Tons of minorities out there with guns, they don't 'control' CA either the public employee unions do which is our biggest problem. It's not much different than the late 1800s/early 1900s 'Trusts' that owned the political process until TR broke them. |
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There you go again....
Posting an article from the paper that most here would not have seen otherwise? Yeah, a lotta hidden agenda there. |
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If someone is wrong, then they must be enlightened.
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I've met many Asians, Hispanics, African and Native Americans that own guns. If you all remember the L.A. riots of '92, lotsa Korean storeowners stood guard with guns. Last I checked, Koreans are Asians.
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You very well may be a gun owner (my opinion is you are not, but that's only based on your ZERO iTrader history), but day in and day out you support these assclowns. Your payback for doing so must be better than your right to own firearms. If it wasn't YOU wouldn't be supporting them with your money.
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How does one's iTrader stats identify an individual as a gun owner or not....
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Tell that to the besieged gun owners in New York State.
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Contrast that poll with this nation wide poll. Attitudes in California simply reflect the success of the media and educrat's all out war on gun ownership over the law few decades. We're winning the culture war within the nation as a whole but as long as the lefty media and Progressive educrats dominate thinking with the 3-4 of the largest population centers we face an uphill battle.
http://dailycaller.com/2013/03/22/po...uickly-enough/ http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...ing/?hpt=po_c2 Quote:
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It doesn't. That's why I said in my opinion...
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Sadly, average joe now wheres skinny jeans, drinks martinis, looks like he could be a homosexual, and voted for DOO DOO BROWN
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Ignorant. -hanko
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It's going to have to be challenged in court.
As we will likely have to here. Doesn't matter what the polls say.
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I'm glad they approved my comment. Just a drop in the bucket, but at least there are other opinions being put forth that maybe someone will read and take into consideration.
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EXACTLY.
Further, rights are not determined by a leftist rag like the L.A. Times who overtly and actively engages in extremist propaganda to usurp not only the Second Amendment and the Constitution but the laws of the state of California, the County of Los Angeles, and various surrounding municipalities of L.A. Personally, I'd like to see them shut down. Maybe there should be a poll on that? Do you believe the L.A. Times reports balanced news?
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No, but public opinion is.
The sheeple need to be told how to vote so they can believe their thoughts are consistent with everyone elses...
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I think so I too have never been polled no one that I know personally has been and what right do they anti-gun ppl think they have trying to take my rights away I have committed no crimes therefore I should not be punished. What can we do as gun owner do and I'm not one to just tuck tail and run but its seeming like what will have to be done to servive and not go to prison
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Spit coffee on my monitor when I read that LMAO. I'm 60 years old and white and live in Los Angeles and I'm not rich. I think there is a bounty on guys like me now.
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Not sure if that stereotype fits as to what a homosexual looks like. The skinny jeans fad you will see a lot on a college campus. As far as martinis go....well, that sounds like what the upscale crowd is more likely to drink and......James Bond.
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Dan Schnur: "In the United States of America, that assault weapon ban can't pass. In California, it would pass overwhelmingly".
There you have it. When it comes to guns there is the United States of America, and there is California. |
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Yep, WTF was ever invented in Kansas or Wyoming? CA's state burden is stupid. But we far pay more (outgoing) than any incoming Fed benefits and are productive "in spite of ourselves".
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Doheny may be a lot of things, but I don't think it's fair to judge him according to his iTrader rating.
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Soap, ballot, jury, ammo. Safe to say we have failed at the Cali ballot box, which means the soap box didn't work so well, but we must keep on that. We are appoaching the jury box stage. I guess the first three are all in play at the same time these days.
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Something to consider regarding the Hispanic influence on gun issues: The Hispanic population, specifically the ones who were not born or maybe even raised here, did so in a country that prohibits firearm ownership by citizens-it's a way of life for them there that ironically still sees common citizens victimized by gun toting criminals and corrupt police officers. Once migrating here they would probably still harbor that same indoctrinated belief, still remembering that "guns are no bueno" as it was for them in their native country.
As for the rest of CA's population, there is no shortage of gun enthusiasts; none of us have to be reminded about the bare gun store shelves or the many threads here about where to find 'ammo at Wal*Mart. The problem is unity and initiative. I've met quite a few self-proclaimed avid shooters that aren't a member of the NRA, don't know about or participate in Calguns or any other pro-2A organization. As long as these people "got theirs" they don't think about doing anything else outside of that, for gun owners as a group...
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Don't these individuals of CA know we ALREADY have one, if not THE stricktest background process? We already check for the mental health issues in ownership/DROS....as they state that's what the poll was about.
Even the local radio is discussing this poll and they say "tighter background checks." I guess that means when we buy a gun now, they will ask we have to s*** in a cup and pee in a dish....Or is it the other way around?
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Appears to be gone now...
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gross_national_product The climate & scenery make it so popular, along with the history of CA.....I might also add the liberal politics is likely to attract those from other more conservative states hoping to find/help create a Liberal Utopia Last edited by sakosf; 03-22-2013 at 2:04 PM.. |
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