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Old 08-11-2018, 4:28 PM
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I don't understand why anyone has the hots for plinking with a 22 when you can go plinking on the cheap with a pellet gun.

You sound like a liberal that claims no one needs a gun.

Geeze!!... You folks get your knickers in a twist real easy don't ya... So some one voices an opinion... read:IMHO... and a few of you want to hit the mattress... I'm so far to the right from being a liberal it makes most of you look left handed... IMHO...
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Geeze!!... You folks get your knickers in a twist real easy don't ya... So some one voices an opinion... read:IMHO... and a few of you want to hit the mattress... I'm so far to the right from being a liberal it makes most of you look left handed... IMHO...
Well, I'm left-handed and lever guns are among the more ambidextrous-friendly firearms out there.

I've had four different pistol-caliber lever action rifles (oddly, no rifle-caliber ones, yet), and all of them looked very cool and had that air of "simplicity is beauty" in a practical, compact package that would make a solid defensive firearm.

I had a Win 94AE in .44mag, and three Rossi 92s - a 24" octagonal stainless, a 16" large loop, and a 20". All the Rossis were in .357.

The main problem with them is that they were not particularly reliable when cycling rounds, with the exception of the only one I've kept - the 20" Rossi. That one is an older one - it does have that much-hated bolt-mounted safety, but just looking at it and working the action, I can tell its fit and finish are far better than any of the other three levers I've owned.

And while I certainly like the rifle - it feels almost TOO slender in my hands (and I'm not a big guy) - almost like a .22 or a toy gun. Perhaps if it had a bit more meat in the grip and forearm, it would be more comfortable to my taste.
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[QUOTE=23 Blast;21991816] The main problem with them is that they were not particularly reliable when cycling rounds, with the exception of the only one I've kept - the 20" Rossi. That one is an older one - it does have that much-hated bolt-mounted safety, but just looking at it and working the action, I can tell its fit and finish are far better than any of the other three levers I've owned.

And while I certainly like the rifle - it feels almost TOO slender in my hands (and I'm not a big guy) - almost like a .22 or a toy gun. Perhaps if it had a bit more meat in the grip and forearm, it would be more comfortable to my taste.[/QUote/]

I picked up my 454 Rossi from another CalGunner, and he had sent it back to Steve's Gunz in Texas for a tweek over, and some sight work. The thing is butter smooth and cycles without a hitch. And the XS sights are awesome. It'll cost a few, but well worth the bucks. I'm just happy I didn't have to shell out the $.....

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Regarding the Rossi top safety. Steve's Guns (kiowa jones) makes a simple installed screw in replacement 'peep' sight. It's just a ring to see through on top a threaded rod with a lockring also on the threads. Not sure if new front sight is needed but I don't think so.
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Regarding the Rossi top safety. Steve's Guns (kiowa jones) makes a simple installed screw in replacement 'peep' sight. It's just a ring to see through on top a threaded rod with a lockring also on the threads. Not sure if new front sight is needed but I don't think so.
The guy also 'tunes' Rossi 92's.
http://forums.outdoorsdirectory.com/...-92-peep-sight
https://store.stevesgunz.com/index.p...uhbhciup1cf210

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https://store.stevesgunz.com/index.p...uhbhciup1cf210
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FWIW, I tried a couple black plastic plugs, I think a 1/4" plug was a little too small....but, I figured out, if your use the pin to hold it in place it will work very well. It's sure worth using the 20 cent plug over the one SG offers, if you don't mind the plastic. I found the plug at my local ACE hardware.

FWIW, I figured out this method after buying the SG plugs
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Yeah, the Henry looks do throw me off.
Curious. What looks threw you off? I'm looking at one tomorrow, the brass receiver/octagon barrel[20"], no silly recoil pad. .357/.38. Hope I like it.
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Well, I liked it enough to buy it. $600.00 OTD. When I pick it up that is. Hardly a mark on it. Was manuf. in Nov 2016 according to the folks at Henry. Bore looks excellent, fit and finish are superb. Innards, from what I can tell look like new.
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Well, I liked it enough to buy it. $600.00 OTD. When I pick it up that is. Hardly a mark on it. Was manuf. in Nov 2016 according to the folks at Henry. Bore looks excellent, fit and finish are superb. Innards, from what I can tell look like new.
Can't wait to get it out to the range. And now for a beer. Yeaa!
Thats a good price I like the Henry guns, I also like the tube fed guns over the loading gate guns, they're easier on my fingers.

Rossi use to make their .454 R92 models using both gate fed and tube fed. I'd like to see more manufacturers go this route.
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I just had to go fancy and buy the Taurus clone of the Colt lightning. I actually lucked out, it runs 100% perfect, just can't handle real hot loads.
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I just had to go fancy and buy the Taurus clone of the Colt lightning. I actually lucked out, it runs 100% perfect, just can't handle real hot loads.
Any chance we can see a picture ? I'd love to get one of these, but as you know they don't have the best record. I've hoped that Henry would make them in 357..
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I’ll take one in a few minutes once I get my daughter to sleep! Love to show off a good pawnshop score.

Edit: it’s a 24” .45 colt. 15 in the tube plus 1. It has no sear disconnect so if you hold the trigger it fires upon closing the bolt. It’s not my favorite gun I own but for $285 it was well worth it.
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Heck, I'd buy that for 285 and have all kinds of fun with it too!
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Heck, I'd buy that for 285 and have all kinds of fun with it too!
I agree, that gun looks like it would be fun, probably faster than a lever gun.
Thanks for sharing
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Thats a good price
Rossi use to make their .454 R92 models using both gate fed and tube fed. I'd like to see more manufacturers go this route.
That,s what I have, but I thought that all Rossi levers came like that.....??? I do like the option...
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That,s what I have, but I thought that all Rossi levers came like that.....??? I do like the option...
The .454 and maybe the .480 are the only R92 models that have that feature.
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The .454 and maybe the .480 are the only R92 models that have that feature.
That's what ya get for not paying attention to the other's, but the 454 Casull is my only Rossi'92. Think I'll keep it.
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When you are ready to step up to a quality "true" Winchester model 92 clone, dump the Rossi's. Seek out and buy a Browning B-92 and you will never be happier.
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When you are ready to step up to a quality "true" Winchester model 92 clone, dump the Rossi's. Seek out and buy a Browning B-92 and you will never be happier.
Nah... I picked up a Winchester 92 in 44-40.. You can keep the Browning... :-)
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Nah... I picked up a Winchester 92 in 44-40.. You can keep the Browning... :-)
Got me there! Congrats! A original Winchester 92 wouldnt have worked as I wanted a lever action in .44 mag/special in a saddle scabbard to complement the .44 mag S&W Mountain gun I carry when in the high Sierras / Sequoias on horseback and I refuse to have one with a tang safety.
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You must not be familiar with these, then. No one who knows anything about Miroku Winchesters would say that. Especially about the ones built circa 1980... no tang safety, all Winchester and manufactured to an even higher standard than the originals... and chambered in .357 and .44 Magnums.

I own and shoot both a Rossi 92 in .357 and a Miroku Browning 92 in .44... as well as two Marlin 1894s.
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My buddy wants to trade his new Ruger PC (threaded barrel) for my 16” Rossi 92, I picked it up gently used for $350 a few years ago. I’m fighting off the urge to do it, the threaded barrels are hard to find.
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You must not be familiar with these, then. No one who knows anything about Miroku Winchesters would say that. Especially about the ones built circa 1980... no tang safety, all Winchester and manufactured to an even higher standard than the originals... and chambered in .357 and .44 Magnums.

I own and shoot both a Rossi 92 in .357 and a Miroku Browning 92 in .44... as well as two Marlin 1894s.
You're mistaken.. I am familiar with them.....
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You are a man of few words. Perhaps you might explain your position. I'm thinking you must prefer the original, older Winchesters and you prefer loading .44-40.

Because as I have said, no one in their right mind who likes to shoot .44 Mag from a '92-pattern carbine would kick a Browning 92 out of bed.

Either that or you have no eye for quality?

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Regarding the Rossi top safety. Steve's Guns (kiowa jones) makes a simple installed screw in replacement 'peep' sight. It's just a ring to see through on top a threaded rod with a lockring also on the threads. Not sure if new front sight is needed but I don't think so.
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FWIW, I tried a couple black plastic plugs, I think a 1/4" plug was a little too small....but, I figured out, if your use the pin to hold it in place it will work very well. It's sure worth using the 20 cent plug over the one SG offers, if you don't mind the plastic. I found the plug at my local ACE hardware.

FWIW, I figured out this method after buying the SG plugs
Steve's Gunz also makes a plain steel plug/cap to replace the bolt mounted safety.

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You are a man of few words. Perhaps you might explain your position. I'm thinking you must prefer the original, older Winchesters and you prefer loading .44-40.

Because as I have said, no one in their right mind who likes to shoot .44 Mag from a '92-pattern carbine would kick a Browning 92 out of bed.

Either that or you have no eye for quality?

I didn't say that, I just said you can keep the Browning '92... Sorry you took it upon yourself to read more into it than was there.. Few words?? Yep I prefer not to baffle 'm with BS...
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Why so argumentative? I'm only interested in your explanation of your position.

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Why so argumentative? I'm only interested in your explanation of your position.

Combative?? I think you've got that a little twisted around sport.. You're the one that wants to stir the pot... I just expressed my stand on the subject and don't have to explain it to you, and I really don't give a damm what you think. If you want to debate I'm not your guy, but just so I'm perfectly clear you can keep your BLR'92...
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Combative?? I think you've got that a little twisted around sport.. You're the one that wants to stir the pot... I just expressed my stand on the subject and don't have to explain it to you, and I really don't give a damm what you think. If you want to debate I'm not your guy, but just so I'm perfectly clear you can keep your BLR'92...

Wow. Ok.


No, you are not obligated to explain. I only asked.

Usually, when someone says something like, "You can keep..." it implies they don't care for the object.

I'm not asking for a debate, either. And the word I used was "argumentative", which is neither here nor there at this point. All I can see now is that huge chip on your shoulder.

Take it easy, now.
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No, you are not obligated to explain. I only asked.
All I can see now is that huge chip on your shoulder.
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Come on guys, I/we appreciate all the help and information you both provided.
I'd love to own a Browning 92 in 357 but that's just not going to happen, the prices are too high for me.

200Apples, do you know if the Browning B-92 is still made?

Just to add. A lot of us take things the wrong way. That's the problem with these forums. I'm sure you guys have the best intentions.
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While I don't see one offered on Browning's website, Miroku still makes this 1892 but for Winchester (suggested retail is $1069) and in both a 20" Carbine in .357 and a 20" Short Rifle in .44 Magnum, but what is unusual about the .44 is it's 26" twist which should stabilize heavier slugs better than the typical-for-caliber 36" twist. Both Miroku/Browning/Winchester and Marlin have used a 36" twist in their big-bore microgroove-rifling barrels.

The differences between the two guns appearance-wise seem to be the forend and barrel's mag lug configuration. I have a 20" .41 Mag Marlin 1894 in a short rifle layout.
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That 20" 357 short rifle is sexy. I prefer the short rifle over the carbine.

Getting back to the topic, the new Rossi's seem to be going for 100.00 more than normal ($600-700). It was smart of them to start out with the stainless steel models, there isn't a lot of SS model 92s offered.

A new Winchester 92, 20" carbine can be had for less than $900.00. I own 2 Winchesters, a 94/22 (ca 1975) and a 94AE (ca 2001) the quality of these two is awesome, I would think the Miroku would be as good or better.
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I'm fortunate to have a few neat levers, some on the '92 pattern. My favorite is actually the wife's original '92 (circa 1925) in .25-20, Miroku's in both .44 and .357, a Rossi in .357, an ugly New Haven Winchester in .357, and a really cool '94 in 32 Special (circa 1930's). Lastly, a Ted Williams '94 in .30-30 rounds it out. All function 100%, with the old .25-20 being the smoothest.
The only lever rifle I had that turned out to be inadequate was a Marlin '94 in .357, and I was glad to be rid of it.
Some folks like to keep a quality lever action for defensive purposes; I certainly won't question them. If you have ever seen a GSW from a .30-30, you have no doubt as to it's potential. And from a saddle scabbard, not much else are quicker to get into action.
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The only lever rifle I had that turned out to be inadequate was a Marlin '94 in .357, and I was glad to be rid of it. .
I'm courious what year the Marlin was made, JM stamp?
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splithoof, what made the Marlin '94 inadequate?
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"I don't understand why anyone has the hots for plinking with a 22 when you can go plinking on the cheap with a pellet gun. "

hahahaha. I've probably spent as much on pellet guns as centerfires. It's an addiction.
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I'm courious what year the Marlin was made, JM stamp?
It was a pre-Remlin example. Rough, poorly fitted components, WOULD NOT RELIABLY FEED ANY TYPE OF AMMUNITION. EVER., and my experience over the years with a variety of quality firearms says "never again".
In the past I have compared it to a Jennings/Bryco Saturday Night Special, of which I also have an interest in.
My only regret is giving it away, as now even it has some value on the used market.
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It was a pre-Remlin example. Rough, poorly fitted components, WOULD NOT RELIABLY FEED ANY TYPE OF AMMUNITION. EVER., and my experience over the years with a variety of quality firearms says "never again".
In the past I have compared it to a Jennings/Bryco Saturday Night Special, of which I also have an interest in.
My only regret is giving it away, as now even it has some value on the used market.
Wow! Take it easy brother
I have read that some of the pre Remington move guns, were pretty bad, not to mention post Remington. From what I have read , the workers at the Marlin plant were not all that happy to loose their jobs..
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Well, splithoof, that does suck. When you get a total lemon, it will stay with you a while. POS, dump it. Hopefully, the Henry I just bought will work. Find out Wed. Got my eyes on a Marlin .45 Colt now. But, first things first.
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