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The main issue IS registration. Registering does NOT solve it! |
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Every politician and leftist will agree with them and make it happen |
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1968 and earlier is exempt.
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That's good to hear because in the first draft they weren't exempt. I have a 1897 rolling block Remington that there is no way I'll deface.
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Yep, they are going after ALL semi autos with detachable magazines now.
The meme with the Ruger mini 14 next to an AR-15 stating that they are the SAME rifle got that taken care of! |
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If they managed to pass the bill to ban all semi-auto with detachable mags, I wonder how they want them registered? We had RAW, now BBRAW, so all featureless will need to be registered as FLRAW? And probably fixed-mag-raw when they ban all semi-auto down the line. All are bad but I guess FLRAW is the slightly better option across those three (BBRAW, FLRAW, FMRAW)? And if they have proof that your rifle/pistol is already a fix-mag, you'll probably loose the opportunity to register it as featureless-RAW? This is madness. We need a lawsuit and we need to win it.
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It certainly makes it more acceptable to the general bonehead public. Well these are clearly registered "weapons of war", the idiots that vote in this state will see that as acceptable confiscation. You still have your 2nd amendment rights after all to possess a shotgun.
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Well then you go fixed,when that ends lube well and wrap and stash till needed. I really wish the usa would invade this place..
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So whats the story on the hearing? Did anyone attend? When does this rule change kick in? I mean this is CA nothing is going to stop them from making regs outside of legislature not that it matters bc legislature is violating 2A 24/7/365.
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Egregious overreach of the regs compared to text of the law. For those who have not read to the very end of the DOJ reg submission package, here is a gem for you. Per DOJ, these regs will not have any economic impact on businesses or individuals. How they can say that with a straight face we don't know. SMH
https://d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.ne...pdf?1517438166
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https://www.nraila.org/articles/2018...un-regulations
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I know most of the comments are in regards to AR receivers but does this apply to handguns too? For example, if someone home builds a P320 FCU from an 80% and has it engraved, can they VolReg to be AB857 compliant just the FCU as "Frame only" since that is the firearm and then build it to a functioning handgun at a later date?
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As long as it’s built to be single shot most likely. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
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If it was a fully functioning handgun, I understand it needs to be single shot or bolt action and most likely it can be VolReg. However, can it just be the FCU receiver/frame insert that is engraved and be VolReg as "frame only" as previously commented by Disco. Would like to be ab857 compliant but not purchase the other parts (barrel, slide, inlander kit, etc) if I dont need to. Thank you.
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Hey guys, im late to the party. I have a 80% which I milled and completed a long time ago. I was gonna get serialized this weekend at the 80% arms place. but now i found this thread and im confused. Do I still have to register it after I get it serialized ?
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DOJ Releases AB-857 Ghost Gun Regs
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I would VolReg it as what you intend the completed receiver to be. I can take the upper off my AR pistol and even strip the lower, it is still registered as a pistol and is still a pistol despite it not being assembled. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
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It depends on the person at DOJ handling your paperwork. Some are requesting pictures in single shot configuration, some dont. They will be requiring pictures for all builds once the provisions of AB857 kicks in.
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I submitted my pistols on 3-25. Still showing in Progress. Pics were in final configuration so we will see. I think that is the most honest I could make it. I can always take pictures of them in SS configuration.
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Submitted my VolReg on 2/13 still nothing only in Progress. RAW my Tavor on 1/19 got confirmation on 1/25 and letter on of approval on 2/6 in the mail. Not sure if they are flooded with RAW is the hold up. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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I can't understand why someone with a completed "80% lower" would register it with the state. I thought the whole point of these lowers was to keep them out of sight and out of mind. Every person I've met that has finished a lower has no intention to register it.
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Plus, for me it was never about them not knowing. I don't like it, but those are not the only things they would know about. For me it was the inability to purchase 100% frames. If they didn't have the Roster, and other Gun-Control, we wouldn't be talking about 80% anything.
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by voluntarily complying when you can avoid it your are only expediting your own demise when they come for that alleged gun and swear they thought you were drawing a gun and they feared for their lives. Many of the agents coming for these guns will not have proper law enforcement training but they will feel like God because they have a 10 cent badge. Assemble your anonymous lowers keep the uppers separate and if the day ever comes you need them after your "registered" weapons were taken then you will have accomplished your goal. think smart and do not panic. someone will say I am preaching violating the law but if the law is illegal or wrong in your eyes why live under tyrants. we each make our own private decisions and chose when enough is enough. But do not believe this government in california has your or your families best interests at heart. Taxes and slavery are the goals.
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Until then, volreg it with your own serial number and be exempted from the AB857 requirements. Those are the two choices, you cannot have a completed firearm (receiver) without a serial number appearing in a centralized registry. It's a misdemeanor for a rifle and a felony for a pistol. You can keep as many uncompleted 80% lowers as you like, they are not firearms and not regulated and the same as a block of aluminum or a phone shaped like a football or a roll of toilet paper.
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Thank you for the response, I just wanted to confirm before trying to Volreg it...worst case I just keep it as an 80% and save it until I move out of CA.
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Based on the bold, I'm assuming the pics submitted are in semi-auto configuration? For date acquired, was it during SSE1 or during SSE2?
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Some were during SSE2. If they want to see them in compliant configuration I can do that too.
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