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Old 02-19-2017, 10:36 AM
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Default California passed 900 new laws that go into effect in 2017

California passed 900 new laws that go into effect in 2017.

With the continued multiple duplicate bills coming out of both the Assembly and the Senate it's CLEAR that our Representative/Legislators are abusing their authority.

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/edito...102-story.html

We need a limit to 3 bills per legislator.
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Some may not be aware that many States have legislatures that are not full time, do not meet year 'round. Even large States like Texas. Indiana, a State with which I'm familiar, allows its legislature to meet something like only 90 days per year.

With that type of rule, these politicians have to go home and earn a real living, and furthermore there's a limit to how much damage they can cause when they are in session just due to the limited time.

Here in Pelosifornia, our legislature meets essentially year 'round; the politicians are full time career criminals, er, uh, excuse me, correction: politicians. They thus create too many laws and too much trouble.
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Some may not be aware that many States have legislatures that are not full time, do not meet year 'round. Even large States like Texas. Indiana, a State with which I'm familiar, allows its legislature to meet something like only 90 days per year.

With that type of rule, these politicians have to go home and earn a real living, and furthermore there's a limit to how much damage they can cause when they are in session just due to the limited time.

Here in Pelosifornia, our legislature meets essentially year 'round; the politicians are full time career criminals, er, uh, excuse me, correction: politicians. They thus create too many laws and too much trouble.
The simple fact it is a career is the problem.

When the focus is on making money to further your own prosperity, liberty dies.
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I think Trump came up with a solution for this problem: require the legislature to abolish two laws for each new law passed.
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Some may not be aware that many States have legislatures that are not full time, do not meet year 'round. Even large States like Texas. Indiana, a State with which I'm familiar, allows its legislature to meet something like only 90 days per year.

With that type of rule, these politicians have to go home and earn a real living, and furthermore there's a limit to how much damage they can cause when they are in session just due to the limited time.

Here in Pelosifornia, our legislature meets essentially year 'round; the politicians are full time career criminals, er, uh, excuse me, correction: politicians. They thus create too many laws and too much trouble.
Nevada 90 days every two years.
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I agree the CA legislatures need to take some time off a lot of time off.
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Can this be changed through a ballot initiative?
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California passed 900 new laws that go into effect in 2017.

With the continued multiple duplicate bills coming out of both the Assembly and the Senate it's CLEAR that our Representative/Legislators are abusing their authority.

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/edito...102-story.html

We need a limit to 3 bills per legislator.
seemed to me the governor wasn't doing his job correctly then...
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C'mon guys, they have to justify that sweet salary and those golden parachute perks. They just need to make it look like they actually do something.

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Can this be changed through a ballot initiative?
Hahahahahaha that's funny. Good one.
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Ignorance of the law is no excuse. Yeah right. With an average of 1k laws passed every year, makes that statement impossible. How many laws are you breaking on a daily basis without even knowing it? Something has to change.
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I think Trump came up with a solution for this problem: require the legislature to abolish two laws for each new law passed.
Correction: I think that was an Exec Order pertaining to regulations, not laws. If a Fed Dept. wants to issue a new regulation, it has to cancel two existing regulations. Nice idea.
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The minds of Excremento are running out of ideas for new laws. We already have tens of thousands on the books, many are duplicates.

The solution is for every new law you pass, an old law must be removed. If you are limited to a few 10's of thousands, liberty might re-appear.
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I think Trump came up with a solution for this problem: require the legislature to abolish two laws for each new law passed.
I think the Trump proposal pertains to regulations, not laws.
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The minds of Excremento are running out of ideas for new laws. We already have tens of thousands on the books, many are duplicates.

The solution is for every new law you pass, an old law must be removed. If you are limited to a few 10's of thousands, liberty might re-appear.
As long as the Democrats are in charge of this one-party State, that'll never happen. There will be new gun laws every year for the foreseeable future, including 2017.
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Can this be changed through a ballot initiative?
it wouldn't even make the ballot in this stupid state.

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As long as the Democrats are in charge of this one-party State, that'll never happen. There will be new gun laws every year for the foreseeable future, including 2017.
the year just started I bet we're gonna see some gut and amend legislation coming from these idiots soon enough. All we need is a mass shooting or terrorist attack and it's off to full idiot and beyond.
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Why dont the California voters get a "1 year term of Office" voted in ?
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Why dont the California voters get a "1 year term of Office" voted in ?
Because the majority of CA voters like things the way they are.
That's why we have what we have now, isn't it?

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You people in CA need to organize a ballot initiative to make a change in the CA constitution to limit the legislature sessions to no more than 30 days a year. And with a corresponding reduction in compensation.
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We people of California are swamped with liberal voters. They are the super majority here. Initiatives are paid for here by either labor unions, corporations, government people or rich liberals with agendas.

The average Joe has no shot at that game. Besides, all it takes is one liberal activist judge to throw the whole thing out, like prop 187 and Prop 8.
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Some may not be aware that many States have legislatures that are not full time, do not meet year 'round. Even large States like Texas. Indiana, a State with which I'm familiar, allows its legislature to meet something like only 90 days per year.

With that type of rule, these politicians have to go home and earn a real living, and furthermore there's a limit to how much damage they can cause when they are in session just due to the limited time.

Here in Pelosifornia, our legislature meets essentially year 'round; the politicians are full time career criminals, er, uh, excuse me, correction: politicians. They thus create too many laws and too much trouble.
We need that very badly here in CA. I think it would be quite easy to trace much of the decline in CA back to when they went to a full time legislature. They just have to much damn time on their hands. I've been saying for a long time if we want to get CA turned around a serious effort needs to get started to pass a ballot initiative to amend the state constitution to go back to a part time legislature. That alone would prolly have a huge impact on CA all across the board.
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Meanwhile roads, bridges, dams and other critical infrastructure continues to FALL APART.
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Meanwhile roads, bridges, dams and other critical infrastructure continues to FALL APART.
Because they keep diverting the gas tax money which is intended to pay for that to all their pet social programs and posh state employee benefits.

Perhaps we also need an amendment that requires that certain "earmarked" taxes and fees may not be diverted for use on anything other than what they are earmarked for.
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So many laws, but politicians exempt from they law.
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CHOO CHOO CHUGA CHUGA!

Plenty of cash flowing so they can throw transvestite lunch parties on those busy Fridays.

I mean, at least they're being frugal with the telegraph bill.
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We people of California are swamped with liberal voters. They are the super majority here.
...maybe not so much after Trump deports the illegals.
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It always astonishes me that a Judge has the gall to nullify a ballot proposition approved by the voters, when the latter is a pure form of democracy. Such judges are substituting their judgement for that of WE THE PEOPLE.
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