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California 2nd Amend. Political Discussion & Activism Discuss gun rights activism and 2A related political topics here. All advice given is NOT legal counsel. |
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CRPA
I am already a member of the NRA, SAF and GOA.
Is the CRPA worth joining / donating to?
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“A shooting competition isn't a gun fight, but a gun fight is most definitely a shooting competition.” - Massad Ayoob NRA - Life Member | NRA Certified Instructor SAF - Life Member | CRPA - Life Member GOA - Life Member |
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Yes!
They are in Sacramento tracking and working with legislation with our interests and support many shooting sports. Look at their newsletter, "The Firing Line". The president likes to demonize, lets not let him demonize just one group such as the NRA, but 'keep and bear' many groups all that perform various functions that keep the opposition on their toes. Maxine Waters recently said John Boehner was a "Demon"! If that is the case, then our President keeps Unions and small Demons as pets. Back in the early days of the Catholic church, when the center of church was divided between Rome and France, one Pope noted the other Pope "kept small demons as pets"; guess we are back to constructive criticism...
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Gene Hoffman Chairman, California Gun Rights Foundation DONATE NOW to support the rights of California gun owners. Follow @cgfgunrights on Twitter. Opinions posted in this account are my own and not the approved position of any organization. I read PMs. But, if you need a response, include an email address or email me directly! "The problem with being a gun rights supporter is that the left hates guns and the right hates rights." -Anon
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Is CRPA the main organization that lobbies our Representatives in California?
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“A shooting competition isn't a gun fight, but a gun fight is most definitely a shooting competition.” - Massad Ayoob NRA - Life Member | NRA Certified Instructor SAF - Life Member | CRPA - Life Member GOA - Life Member |
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Yes, and be careful of those with personal agendas, on both sides of CRPA.
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From what I've gleaned from the new letters, CRPA holds a few banquets where the board members dress up in tuxedos and they sponsor competitions, including air rifles, which I do not consider to be firearms.
It really looks like a few guys who've found a nice way to earn a living and have some fun at the same time. I never hear anything about them in the news.
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NRA Life Member (Benefactor level) "Those who give up some of their liberty in order to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty, nor safety." B. Franklin Calguns Community Chapters (C3) in Your Community Calguns Community Chapters (C3) and Appleseed Event Calendar The 2nd Amendment is not about hunting or competition shooting. It's all about your inalienable rights to life and liberty. |
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Ditto this.
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http://www.google.com/#hl=en&safe=of...w=1366&bih=667 |
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http://www.gunownersca.com/ Jorgy |
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Well, on thing is CRPA is recognized by CMP. A CRPA membership qualifies you to buy ammo and. with a live fire cert. firearms from them.
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From my experience as a board member of a non-profit (not the CRPA) banquets usually generate funds. Often in substantial amounts. Considering that the CRPA, at least in part, uses its funds to pay for a rather effective lobbyist in Sacramento, I find the complaints on this issue hard to understand.
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-Brandon
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Obviously my statement was qualitative, not quantitative. I based it on what I have heard from people actually working in Sacramento. As I recall, I have also seen CGF board members say as much.
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-Brandon
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Brandon Combs I do not read private messages, and my inbox is usually full. If you need to reach me, please email me instead. My comments are not the official position or a statement of any organization unless stated otherwise. My comments are not legal advice; if you want or need legal advice, hire a lawyer. |
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From the news letter and financial information I've seen, it really does appear to me that there a few people making $100,000+ per year and throwing themselves banquets while doing so. I don't see being on the board of CRPA being a full-time employment position, so that seems excessive. I'd much rather see outreach at shooting ranges, literature in gun stores and much more frequent community activities to introduce new people to the sport than the glad handing and back slapping that occurs at those banquets.
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NRA Life Member (Benefactor level) "Those who give up some of their liberty in order to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty, nor safety." B. Franklin Calguns Community Chapters (C3) in Your Community Calguns Community Chapters (C3) and Appleseed Event Calendar The 2nd Amendment is not about hunting or competition shooting. It's all about your inalienable rights to life and liberty. |
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While certainly not a scietific poll by any measure, it is interesting that (so far) 12 respondants would rather give $350 to either NRA-ILA, CGF, or SAF, rather than use the money to purchase a life membership in CRPA.
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=692276 It's a real shame, though, because it seems like an organization like CRPA should be an important component of supporting the 2nd Amendment here in California, but based on the apparently bad perception out there, it's hard to imagine that they are actually effective or that the negative perception of them is misguided. |
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CRPA has a very good lobbyist in Sac. A yearly membership would not hurt you and help 2A in this state. Bottom line! I am not a CRPA fan, but they do have the only CA lobbyist in this state worth beans other than our local NRA lobbyist. At least that I know of. |
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I'm sorry, was that supposed to be an intelligent argument? Are you suggesting that we should not donate to the CRPA?
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To your second inquiry, not at all. In fact, I encourage people to become members and demand from us better leadership and higher return on their investment. -Brandon
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Brandon Combs I do not read private messages, and my inbox is usually full. If you need to reach me, please email me instead. My comments are not the official position or a statement of any organization unless stated otherwise. My comments are not legal advice; if you want or need legal advice, hire a lawyer. |
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I just signed up for 3 years.
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“A shooting competition isn't a gun fight, but a gun fight is most definitely a shooting competition.” - Massad Ayoob NRA - Life Member | NRA Certified Instructor SAF - Life Member | CRPA - Life Member GOA - Life Member |
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Thanks very much for your membership and your support!
I can assure you, you won't be disappointed! Great things are happening at CRPA and despite the considearble challenges ahead, we are going to fight like hell...........!!!!!
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Tony Montanarella Member, CRPA Board of Directors, Trustee, CRPA Foundation. CRPA & NRA Life Member, Proud American since 1964. |
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CRPA is not only involved in lobbying. They are also very active in promoting competitive shooting in California. The California High Power Rifle Team competes in Camp Perry under their banner. Recently, they issued a $14,000 grant to the Los Angeles Rifle & Revolver Club in order to purchase electronic targets for training the next generation of Olympic shooters.
Combined with what I know of their lobbying efforts in Sacramento, I'm sold on CRPA. I'm a member and plan to become a lifer at the first opportunity. Screw the naysayers. PS I'm also an NRA member and make regular donations to Calguns. Last edited by bluetentacle; 01-31-2013 at 10:49 PM.. |
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What percentage on lobbying? Thanks!
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CRPA choses not to reform without additional pressure placed. Those of us who think that's a shame have better things to do at this exact moment, like stepping into the voids left by an ineffective CRPA.
When things calm back down the SaveCRPA project is likely to get new focus. -Gene
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Gene Hoffman Chairman, California Gun Rights Foundation DONATE NOW to support the rights of California gun owners. Follow @cgfgunrights on Twitter. Opinions posted in this account are my own and not the approved position of any organization. I read PMs. But, if you need a response, include an email address or email me directly! "The problem with being a gun rights supporter is that the left hates guns and the right hates rights." -Anon
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