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Iím thinking of getting a g37. I found them cheap and like the idea. I have plenty of guns, not a need, just a want. Love .357 sig, figured Iíd give another good idea round a try. Speed ammo online goes for $12.99 a box so why not.
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.45GAP is more common East of the Mississippi River due to all the LE agencies that adopted it.

All five State law enforcement agencies that had adopted the .45GAP went with Speer 200gr Gold-Dot JHP as their duty ammo.
^Out of those five agencies, three of them still use the .45GAP.


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Florida Highway Patrol = 2002-2009, .40S&W Beretta Model 96G. 2010-current, .45GAP Glock 37 Gen4.

Georgia State Patrol = 1998-2006 = .40S&W Glock 22 Gen3. 2006-2014, .45GAP Glock 37 Gen3. 2014-current, 9x19mm Glock 17 Gen4.

New York State Police = 1990-1998, 9x19mm Glock 17 Gen2. 1998-2007, 9x19mm Glock 17 Gen3. 2007-current, .45GAP Glock 37 Gen3.

Pennsylvania State Police = 1996-2006, .40S&W Beretta Model 96D. 2007-2014, .45GAP Glock 37 Gen3. 2014-current, .45ACP SIG P-227.

South Carolina Highway Patrol = 1993-1998, .40S&W Glock 22 Gen2. 1998-2006, .40S&W Glock 22 Gen3. 2007-current, .45GAP Glock 37 Gen3.
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I thought the point of GAP was to fit more rounds into a .45 with a slimmer grip. But with CA 10 round limit, it doesn’t seem useful.
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I thought the point of GAP was to fit more rounds into a .45 with a slimmer grip. But with CA 10 round limit, it doesnít seem useful.
45gap is still a 45 in diameter.
Its just shorter in length and the powder is a little different from what I understand.
That wouldn't affect capacity at all.
The only thing it does for glocks is you can have a grip and frame that is shorter from front to back.
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I thought the point of GAP was to fit more rounds into a .45 with a slimmer grip. But with CA 10 round limit, it doesnít seem useful.


Sure the gun is half the size with the same capacity!
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I thought the point of GAP was to fit more rounds into a .45 with a slimmer grip. But with CA 10 round limit, it doesnít seem useful.

To me, the G37 is the perfect CA gun. It's only 10 rounds so perfect for this state. It's exactly the same frame as the G17, so better handling than the fat boy G21 if your hands are averaged sized.

It shoots unbelievably smooth and with minimal recoil. Plus, Vedder holsters makes a Lighttuck for it so it's nice to carry and hides well with the Vedder claw attachment.

Mags are plentiful. If you reload, the GAP guns are excellent. I have all three models.

If you just carry it, Federal HST and Speer Gold Dots exist for it.

Not much to hate about a G37 for CA.




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To me, the G37 is the perfect CA gun. It's only 10 rounds so perfect for this state. It's exactly the same frame as the G17, so better handling than the fat boy G21 if your hands are averaged sized.

It shoots unbelievably smooth and with minimal recoil. Plus, Vedder holsters makes a Lighttuck for it so it's nice to carry and hides well with the Vedder claw attachment.

Mags are plentiful. If you reload, the GAP guns are excellent. I have all three models.

If you just carry it, Federal HST and Speer Gold Dots exist for it.

Not much to hate about a G37 for CA.




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I think you have me sold on one.
Even though a g31 and g33 are so high on my want list.
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To me, the G37 is the perfect CA gun. It's only 10 rounds so perfect for this state. It's exactly the same frame as the G17, so better handling than the fat boy G21 if your hands are averaged sized.

It shoots unbelievably smooth and with minimal recoil. Plus, Vedder holsters makes a Lighttuck for it so it's nice to carry and hides well with the Vedder claw attachment.

Mags are plentiful. If you reload, the GAP guns are excellent. I have all three models.

If you just carry it, Federal HST and Speer Gold Dots exist for it.

Not much to hate about a G37 for CA.




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Thatís about how I see it. And sportsman guide had them for $300 shipped!
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Thatís about how I see it. And sportsman guide had them for $300 shipped!
Thats the other thing is that theyre cheap sometimes
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Thats the other thing is that theyre cheap sometimes

I bought my G37, 38, and 39 for $900 total and they were brand new and unfired with the frying pan finish. How can you beat that.

My best Glock purchases to date. The GAP Glocks could be my favorite Glocks and maybe my favorite pistols of all time.

Even this guy proclaimed the G37 to be his favorite gun.




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I bought my G37, 38, and 39 for $900 total and they were brand new and unfired with the frying pan finish. How can you beat that.

My best Glock purchases to date. The GAP Glocks could be my favorite Glocks and maybe my favorite pistols of all time.

Even this guy proclaimed the G37 to be his favorite gun.




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Thatís awesome. Yea Iím tempted to try the 37 police trade in for $300and I like the idea of the 38.

I got a 33 with 1000 rounds for $400 and I think that was the steal of a kifetime because 1k of .357 sig costs that much by itself.
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Thatís awesome. Yea Iím tempted to try the 37 police trade in for $300and I like the idea of the 38.

I got a 33 with 1000 rounds for $400 and I think that was the steal of a kifetime because 1k of .357 sig costs that much by itself.
But then again a g17 can do everything a g37 can do.
Its pretty dumb but interesting to branch out into botique calibres
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But then again a g17 can do everything a g37 can do.
Its pretty dumb but interesting to branch out into botique calibres
Ballistics are totally different and Iím CA both only have 10 rd so thatís a advantage. My .357sig has holy crap ballistics. I carry a 9 and 357 mag most of the time but I appreciate the uses of other calibers in sertain situations.
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If you can result buy it online for fair price then it’s not too far landish to carry it. It may not be a SHTF caliber, but I carry everyday, the **** doesn’t hit the fan often lol
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But then again a g17 can do everything a g37 can do.

Its pretty dumb but interesting to branch out into botique calibres

You know what I like most about the GAP guns? Not many people own them and yet parts and mags are so bountiful that it's a buyers market. Bought some G38 mags a year ago for $10/each shipped and they were brand new. Try finding G17 or G19 mags for that, especially in CA and neutered to boot.

Also, recently found out that even Underwood loads the excellent Lehigh Defense Xtreme Defender bullet in the 45 GAP. This is one formidable self-defense round.






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I think you have me sold on one.
Even though a g31 and g33 are so high on my want list.
Cant go wrong with the g31. I EDC a g32. I wanted a g33 until i figured out i could conceal a 32 (i also carried a g30, same size but g32 is thinner). .357sig is an awesome round and the glocks function perfect with .40 cal g22and g23 mags so if you have old timers you are over the kalifornia limit. I put a g35 length barrel in my g31 until i get a g35 to convert.
That being said a 45gap also sounds fun.
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My buddy calls me one day and says, hey man I found a bunch of Glock 45 mags gentle used for real cheap. You want them for your 41, I said how much $8.00 a piece. Hell ya buy them and I’ll pay you when I see you, I see him and he hands me 1 45 acp mag and 4 45 GAP mags, I gave him 8 bucks and the 4 gap mags back. He was as stuck with them, no refund or exchange, details they do matter.
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I thought the point of GAP was to fit more rounds into a .45 with a slimmer grip. But with CA 10 round limit, it doesnít seem useful.
Not more, rather it was designed to fit a .45" cartridge into the same frame size as the 9mm/.40sw pistols.

Glock accomplished this by shortening the OAL of the case to get the 45GAP.
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Iím thinking of getting a g37. I found them cheap and like the idea. I have plenty of guns, not a need, just a want. Love .357 sig, figured Iíd give another good idea round a try. Speed ammo online goes for $12.99 a box so why not.
Not a big fan of the round myself, but 37 Gen 3's police-tradeins are available for $270 (without shipping) on Sportsman Guide right now. If you want one it's probably a good buy.
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45gap is still a 45 in diameter.
Its just shorter in length and the powder is a little different from what I understand.
That wouldn't affect capacity at all.
The only thing it does for glocks is you can have a grip and frame that is shorter from front to back.
Doh, yeah I realized after I posted that I was wrong. The cartridge is just shorter. I have a Gen2 Glock 21, so I can definitely appreciate a thinner (front to back) Glock grip in .45. Brain fart on my side, I had recalled Glock wanted to make the rounds fit better, and of course they meant front to back!
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Doh, yeah I realized after I posted that I was wrong. The cartridge is just shorter. I have a Gen2 Glock 21, so I can definitely appreciate a thinner (front to back) Glock grip in .45. Brain fart on my side, I had recalled Glock wanted to make the rounds fit better, and of course they meant front to back!
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Sounds cool.
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Not a big fan of the round myself, but 37 Gen 3's police-tradeins are available for $270 (without shipping) on Sportsman Guide right now. If you want one it's probably a good buy.
https://www.sportsmansguide.com/prod...e-in?a=1940256

Looks like a good deal, especially for Glock fans that don't have a 45.
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Looks like a good deal, especially for Glock fans that don't have a 45.
For $270, if they were local, I would totally buy one. I reload a bunch of calibers anyway, .45 GAP is no weirder than any other, once you have the brass I mean.
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For $270, if they were local, I would totally buy one. I reload a bunch of calibers anyway, .45 GAP is no weirder than any other, once you have the brass I mean.
If I was a Glock guy and didn't already have 45 ACP, I'd get one. To order one cost would be $300 + $50 ffl and state fees.
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You know what I like most about the GAP guns? Not many people own them and yet parts and mags are so bountiful that it's a buyers market. Bought some G38 mags a year ago for $10/each shipped and they were brand new. Try finding G17 or G19 mags for that, especially in CA and neutered to boot.
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Used polce trade in, Glock 37 10 round magazine @9.95/each when buying 1-4 or @$7.95/each when buying 5+.
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Pretty easy if you reload.
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/75...eloading-brass
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There is a great deal on used police trade ins on sportsmans guide. However, they have it as restricted and you can not purchase it.

I have been emailing them for over a week about it. At first they said it was the magazine (10 rounds) making the gun 10+1 which they tried to say is restricted in CA.

So I sent a link to one of their CA legal M1As that is listed as 10+1.

They then tried to tell me it was not allowed because it was used. I asked them to site the CA penal code and they told me it was Prop 65, which has to do with chemicals.

Maybe I am missing something, but this seems like a company policy similar to dicks and they will not be getting any business from me because of it.

If you are in a different state, I guess you could support this organization if you like.

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There is a great deal on used police trade ins on sportsmans guide. However, they have it as restricted and you can not purchase it.

I have been emailing them for over a week about it. At first they said it was the magazine (10 rounds) making the gun 10+1 which they tried to say is restricted in CA.

So I sent a link to one of their CA legal M1As that is listed as 10+1.

They then tried to tell me it was not allowed because it was used. I asked them to site the CA penal code and they told me it was Prop 65, which has to do with chemicals.

Maybe I am missing something, but this seems like a company policy similar to dicks and they will not be getting any business from me because of it.

If you are in a different state, I guess you could support this organization if you like.

https://www.sportsmansguide.com/prod...fe00fc0a1c0e0e
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A few years back, Sportsman's Guide changed their company policies and became an anti-CA vendor.
^They adopted the Cheaper Than Dirt policy for CA.

It's their policy to not sell anything they think is illegal in CA to CA residents.
^You can show them the product is legal in CA, but they won't change their position.
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How easy is it to find factory ammo?
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How easy is it to find factory ammo?
Easy if you can order online.

Easy if you live East of the Mississippi River (Wal-Marts in the South and East Coast stock .45GAP ammo).
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