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Old 08-14-2018, 10:09 PM
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I was curious if anyone has any experience with the 25-06 round. I started researching it an have become intrigued. Research suggests it's flatter shooting than the 6.5 creedmoor. I wonder how long a barrel would last on a 25-06 rifle? Anyway any insight or thoughts would be appreciated. I'm considering on picking one up.

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No experience with it myself, but I’m curious what your plans are for it. Hunting, target, or just cause ‘Mercia?
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Old 08-14-2018, 10:26 PM
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No experience with it myself, but I’m curious what your plans are for it. Hunting, target, or just cause ‘Mercia?
Mainly target. But maybe eventually hunting as well. I've been mainly using .308 for long range stuff. But I kind of want to dabble with another caliber as well.

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Mainly target. But maybe eventually hunting as well. I've been mainly using .308 for long range stuff. But I kind of want to dabble with another caliber as well.

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Well for target, I’d look at what bullets with high BCs are available before I went to far. When you compare 25 caliber bullets to 6mm or 6.5mm rounds you might find your not gaining much of anything.

Now as a hunting round 25-06 is supposed to be an awesome mid sized game round.
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I have one in a tang safety Ruger. It is super accurate.
It is a great cartridge. I use it for hunting and some fun shooting. I have taken a number of pronghorns with it. I almost took it to Africa but took my 257W instead which preformed well. My daughter has a 257R that is also great and took hers to Africa and did well with it. Even on larger and "harder to kill" game animals.
The 25cal is a good one. However more for hunting as I do not think there are many target bullets for the 25cal...…………..but I could be wrong
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Research suggests it's flatter shooting than the 6.5 creedmoor. I wonder how long a barrel would last on a 25-06 rifle
Barrel life will be shorter with the 25-06 as you are burning more powder in a smaller bore.
25-06 is a long action caliber which means you may have issues running the bolt without lifting your head.
Short action cartridges with shorter bolt travel are more desirable in a target rifle role.

Compare similar BC bullets when you are comparing how flat a cartridge shoots.
Lighter weight bullets always shoot flatter, but at the detriment to wind drift.
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Hi all,

I was curious if anyone has any experience with the 25-06 round. I started researching it an have become intrigued. Research suggests it's flatter shooting than the 6.5 creedmoor. I wonder how long a barrel would last on a 25-06 rifle? Anyway any insight or thoughts would be appreciated. I'm considering on picking one up.

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to add to what Randall said, Be advised the selection of high quality bullets in .257 are pretty slim No where near what the 6mm and 6.5mm have to offer.

that said you could always get a custom reamer made and neck up 25-06 to 6.5mm but I'm sure someone else has already done it.

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25-06 is a lot of fun and a great accurate varmint/hunting round. But there arr very few Target style bullets available in the 1/4" bores.

A 6.5-06 AI would be a neat obscure Target build or even a 280 AI.
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I have one and it works very well, I would consider a 22-250 instead however. Barrels seem to last longer if you use a flat base bullet as opposed to a boat tail. Mine is built on a mauser action and is about 50 years old.
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The 25-06 is a fine cartridge. Usually pretty accurate. I had one and took a very good Ca. pronghorn with it. As I was getting out of big game hunting, I gave it to a buddies son for his birthday. Scotty has taken a couple pronghorn and a few deer with it in Wyoming. Get one, you'll enjoy it. If you do, and you handload for it, keep a bit under max and your barrel will last long enough.
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I have the 25/06 reamer and the Ackley improved version, I also have a new barrel; but I would choose to go with the 257 Roberts; not a problem for me but I do not have a 257 Roberts reamer, I have the Ackley Improved version with dies.

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Thanks guys. I didn't think about the lack of target bullets for it. I know it's a little different of a round than the typical rounds out there. That's why I was curious about it.

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The 120gr Hornady Interlock FBHP works rather well. But, next year, this lovely state goes all non-lead. That is where the 115gr Barnes comes in.
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It’s a great round and fun to shoot, but not ideal for a target round. If I were looking for a new “fun” target rifle today I’d be looking at a 6mm Creedmore, or maybe a bolt-action 6.5 Grendel.
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pennstater---The Barnes 80gr or 100gr TTSX is a better choice. I have taken game with them.
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pennstater---The Barnes 80gr or 100gr TTSX is a better choice. I have taken game with them.
Good to know for the guy's that may handload for the 25-06.
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I have a Ruger No 1-V in 25-06 and it's very accurate with handloads. I've been very happy with 100gr and 120gr bullets using H4831.
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I have a Ruger No 1-V in 25-06 and it's very accurate with handloads. I've been very happy with 100gr and 120gr bullets using H4831.
H4831 is a mighty good powder in those bullet choices. That No1-V must be awesome.
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Been my deer rifle for years. Bone stock Browning A-bolt. With good loads 1 MOA is achievable. Mine likes Hornady 87gr spire points for target use. My hunting round was 120gr Nosler Partitions. At 100 yards they shoot to the same POA. 75gr shot like crap....couldn't load them out far enough to not have a huge jump. With CA's no lead mandate, I've decided to work with the .264 WM I inherited from my mom though.

For long range varmint, I have a custom Interarms Mauser .243 with a truck barrel axle I bought from a friend for about what the stock would cost to have made.

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JagerDog---I have some excellent Barnes TTSX loads for both the 25-06 and the 264WM if you are interested. I also have Nosler and Swift bullet loads for both. Shot a sheep at 260 yards with the 264WM and used Barnes TTSX bullets. One shot and drop.
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The 120gr Hornady Interlock FBHP works rather well. But, next year, this lovely state goes all non-lead. That is where the 115gr Barnes comes in.
only if you're hunting. Target and competition still get to use leaded ammo.
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only if you're hunting. Target and competition still get to use leaded ammo.
Yes. That's true. For now.
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Yes. That's true. For now.
Yeah no kidding, only a matter of time in this state.
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FYI to all those that will hunt with a solids, be advise you cannot in most cases just step up to the same bullet weight in a solid and be good to go. Rifling twist rate and correct stabilization needs to be verified before you order your bullets or you will be holding a box of expensive ballast
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Great cartridge with a lack of target bullets. Mine love the 115 and 117 bullets and don't shoot the 120's accurately enough.
If your not going past 500 yards a 27 inch 12 twist barrel using the 100 grain ballistic tips is a devastating combination.
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hope youhab\nfload. where to get non lead amm.
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Barnes makes factory ammo. Bass pro has it. There are other brands and places to get non-lead ammo. I handload only so I am not up on all the details but you can get it. Now 257R/6.5X55 I am not so sure about and do not care since I handload.I do believe I have seen where there are specially ammo manufactures that do the ones that the major companies do not
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JagerDog---I have some excellent Barnes TTSX loads for both the 25-06 and the 264WM if you are interested. I also have Nosler and Swift bullet loads for both. Shot a sheep at 260 yards with the 264WM and used Barnes TTSX bullets. One shot and drop.
I have some TTSX and GMX, both 120gr for the .264. Just haven't worked with them much. I'm much more a shotgunner than a rifleman nowadays.

H4831 is what I stock for powder.

Got some pet loads with those factors?

Rifle is Win pre-64 model 70 featherweight. It was my primary game rifle growing up while mom still owned it. I bought the A-bolt and used that after. Then mom passed and I got the rifle. I figured the extra speed of the .264 would make it an excellent no-lead choice.
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^^^ I do not use H4831 and have limited 120gr TTSX data. I use 100gr TTSX in my 264win mag.
The speed is what you want and one reason I use 100gr bullets since they have terminal performance like a 130gr lead core bullet.
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I have a 25.06 my father made back in the late 1950's. Enfield 1917 action with the ears ground off and a 12" twist barrel. And, there lies the problem. The rifle is an outstanding shooter with bullets 100grs and lighter. The 12" twist just isn't fast enough to fully stabilize 120gr bullets. HOWEVER, this rifle with 100gr bullets has taken numerous mule deer and antelope in Colorado. WE used a REALLY STIFF load of IMR 4350 (stiff enough that I won't list it as it is higher that every single RECENT loading guides) The loading guide we used for the load dates back to the 1940's. Most old loading manuals show higher powder charges than they do today. Probably due to improved pressure measurements and COMPANY LAWYERS! Still my favorite hunting rifle.
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I have a 25.06 my father made back in the late 1950's. Enfield 1917 action with the ears ground off and a 12" twist barrel. And, there lies the problem. The rifle is an outstanding shooter with bullets 100grs and lighter. The 12" twist just isn't fast enough to fully stabilize 120gr bullets. HOWEVER, this rifle with 100gr bullets has taken numerous mule deer and antelope in Colorado. WE used a REALLY STIFF load of IMR 4350 (stiff enough that I won't list it as it is higher that every single RECENT loading guides) The loading guide we used for the load dates back to the 1940's. Most old loading manuals show higher powder charges than they do today. Probably due to improved pressure measurements and COMPANY LAWYERS! Still my favorite hunting rifle.
The 25-06 seems to like the high end loads much better than *****cat loads in my experience.
The major differences in the loading manuals from the good old days to the modern era is the freebore.
Look at the seating depth from the old Sierra Manuals and compare it to today's manuals.
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OP the 25-06 is a well-regarded hunting round, the Creedmoor is a well-regarded target round. I would go with the collective wisdom, which brings with it a lot more target bullet choices.

Of course, you can always get both.
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got a Ruger M77V with a 36X Leupold in 25-06 for the 90gr Sierra HPBT it likes IMR-4064, in the 120gr Sierra HPBT it's IMR-4350 haven't done any loads for the 90gr yet but will like change from 4064 to 4350. It's shoots great all day. On my cousins farm would find the high spot and scan the fields for varmint, pick them off all the time...

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Berger makes a VLD 115 gr bullet in .25 caliber that is pretty darn good, even though they do not classify it as match bullet. Pretty good BC.
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