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Old 03-18-2017, 7:45 PM
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Default Saw an interesting Mosin at Fowlers

I thought it was priced 1395 at first haha.


Looks like a finnish captured 91/30 with the hanger on the front. Hex receiver rebarreled in 1939. Extractor was a SAKO wheel marked one but I didnt get a picture of it.






Interesting but not sure it was worth 395
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Old 03-18-2017, 8:44 PM
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$395 seems steep for it. I think you were wise to pass that one up. Was it a consignment gun?
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Old 03-18-2017, 9:17 PM
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That's a continuation war Finn capture Tula ex-sniper. 41 stamp is continuation war capture, I have 2 guns with it. Its also sporting a dragoon button band. If it still has the threaded holes in the receiver, as it appears to be an ex PEM (at least the barrel), it would be worth triple that. I would have bought it.

Hex receiver might have been changed by the Finns. It would be interesting to see the tang date. Considering the receiver it would be doubtful the original scope mount screw holes would be present.
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Old 03-18-2017, 9:39 PM
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I personally don't have a lot of interest in mosins so some of the more unique pieces escape me. I knew enough to know that it wasn't a plain ol russian refurb and the store priced it the same as the other mosins I normally see.

If it makes any difference the bolt is renumbered to the receiver too.

I think someone at fowlers told me they buy all their guns so nothing is on consignment.
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Old 03-18-2017, 10:56 PM
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That's a continuation war Finn capture Tula ex-sniper. 41 stamp is continuation war capture, I have 2 guns with it. Its also sporting a dragoon button band. If it still has the threaded holes in the receiver, as it appears to be an ex PEM (at least the barrel), it would be worth triple that.
Pardon my ignorance, how can you tell Ex-PEM from the shank? Still learning here.
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Old 03-18-2017, 11:01 PM
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If it makes any difference the bolt is renumbered to the receiver too.
It's called "force matched".
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Old 03-18-2017, 11:28 PM
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Over-Priced?

Over priced to the tune of the cost of one #7 at Micky Dee's and one days range fee.
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That's a continuation war Finn capture Tula ex-sniper. 41 stamp is continuation war capture, I have 2 guns with it. Its also sporting a dragoon button band. If it still has the threaded holes in the receiver, as it appears to be an ex PEM (at least the barrel), it would be worth triple that. I would have bought it.

Hex receiver might have been changed by the Finns. It would be interesting to see the tang date. Considering the receiver it would be doubtful the original scope mount screw holes would be present.
This^^

It's worth the $395.
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Old 03-19-2017, 3:05 AM
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Pardon my ignorance, how can you tell Ex-PEM from the shank? Still learning here.
The "CN" over the Tula star indicates an ex-sniper, and the PEM was the only model of 91/30 sniper in production at the time.

Therefore, it's an ex-PEM.
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Old 03-19-2017, 4:11 AM
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Seems $100 overpriced to me and I question the SA stamp. I would have to see it in person but the legs on the A look to be turned out.

The problem with Finnish Mosins is the SA Stamps and the swapping of parts is not questioned more. The biggest problem is when the so called experts on other forums immediately stop any any discussion of Fakery amongst Finns and say it is not an issue. It is a huge issue. Many of the ones limiting the discussion have been behind the deception. Fake SA Stamps have been around for many years.

Ever wonder why the biggest dealers know what M39s are antiques but they won't strip a FN-49 to see if the barrel matches? When the M39s came in they came with a lot of extra parts. Cracked stocks are common. Move a Sako with a cracked unmarked stock into a dated Sako stock and you can check if it is an antique while you just increased the value.

The Mosin community needs starts properly vetting especially Finns like the Mauser collectors do.

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I would have bought it.
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Fowler's and the Stockade (same owners) have never been known for good prices. They were pricing their refurb 91-30's at $295 when Big 5 still had them for $169.
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Old 03-20-2017, 9:28 PM
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Odd duck indeed. 'sa', '41' and 'd' markings are real. What's interesting to me is that it's a 39 with a hex receiver, which they stopped producing in 35 or 36 ( can't remember now) Half decent chance it's an finn arsenal rebarelled gun, although the russians did at times rebarrel their mosins as well. Curious to see if it hase scope mount holes and what the receiver tang date is...

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