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Old 08-12-2017, 5:09 PM
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I am thinking about purchasing one. This would be the most expensive weapon I would own. For those that own one, what are your thoughts?
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Old 08-12-2017, 5:23 PM
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Are you talking a new or a used gun?

I would not buy an early P226 with the Early Address on it. They are known for the slide rails cracking and breaking off. SIG will not acknowledge this design defect, and will not repair, or replace guns with this problem.

The P226 frame was redesigned by SIG (without admitting it to anyone) to strength the frame where they were cracking.

But I have a problem with any Company that does not admit it made a mistake, does not make good on it's obvious mistakes, and acts like it has never made a mistake.
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Old 08-12-2017, 5:32 PM
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Are you talking a new or a used gun?

I would not buy an early P226 with the Early Address on it. They are known for the slide rails cracking and breaking off. SIG will not acknowledge this design defect, and will not repair, or replace guns with this problem.

The P226 frame was redesigned by SIG (without admitting it to anyone) to strength the frame where they were cracking.

But I have a problem with any Company that does not admit it made a mistake, does not make good on it's obvious mistakes, and acts like it has never made a mistake.
They didn't need to acknowledge it, those guns were rated for less than 12.5k rounds, and most of them reached their marks. The scalloping was designed to help with reliability for when dirt gets onto the rails.

PS: back on subject OP should stay away from CA approved Sigs, look towards the Market Place even if you have to pay a bit more.

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Are you talking a new or a used gun?

I would not buy an early P226 with the Early Address on it. They are known for the slide rails cracking and breaking off. SIG will not acknowledge this design defect, and will not repair, or replace guns with this problem.

The P226 frame was redesigned by SIG (without admitting it to anyone) to strength the frame where they were cracking.

But I have a problem with any Company that does not admit it made a mistake, does not make good on it's obvious mistakes, and acts like it has never made a mistake.
How does this pertain to the 229?

OP, what caliber are you looking at? What do you seek to do with this? CCW, target, defense?

Your prior handguns are they striker fire or DA/SA?
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I have a non CA P229 and it's a great gun, put thousands of rounds down range with zero issues. Get a non -CA version & install the SRT.


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I have several P-Series and P229 is my favorite to shoot. Shoots comfortably and less felt recoil it seems imho.

Off topic: Had a chance to shoot P225 and it was also great with a little better feel. Again, imho.
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P229 is a great gun. Extremely accurate and easy to shoot. You won't regret buying one.
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I have a non CA P229 and it's a great gun, put thousands of rounds down range with zero issues. Get a non -CA version & install the SRT.


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I just put the SRT in my MK 25 today. I can't believe I put up with the stock trigger for as long as I did
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How does this pertain to the 229?

OP, what caliber are you looking at? What do you seek to do with this? CCW, target, defense?

Your prior handguns are they striker fire or DA/SA?


My mistake, I thought the post said P226.

There are several P229s in my family, and I can actually shoot them very accurately. But for the reason I noted above, I won't personally own or recommend that anyone buy any SIG product, because SIG does not stand behind their products, regardless of what they might publish in their ads.

My Uncle's P226 had less than 200 round fired in it when the frame cracked in two places. It still looks new and unused, because it is. This P226 was fired very little before the frame failed, and it was stored in the original box, in a safe when not taken out to shot. It was only used as a target gun, not a daily carry or duty gun. Never dropped and no reason for the frame to break. SIG claimed that it was very worn in appearance from use, and tried to keep it without compensating my Uncle because they said it was worthless, and my Uncle should not want it back because it was worthless.

I believe that they tried to keep it because the gun itself is proof that the design is/was defective. It's been examined/inspected by several gunsmith's of note, and they agree that the gun was defective, and the failure of the frame was not due to use. Still SIG, says that there is nothing wrong with the design or manufacturing of that gun, and the failure of the frame is not the reason that they redesigned the exact parts of the frame that failed.

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I just put the SRT in my MK 25 today. I can't believe I put up with the stock trigger for as long as I did


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It's an amazing difference isn't it?


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The P-SAIT trigger is also pretty cheap, and will make another huge difference IMHO.

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Old 08-12-2017, 10:00 PM
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I am thinking about purchasing one. This would be the most expensive weapon I would own. For those that own one, what are your thoughts?
Whether in 9mm, or .40sw and even .357 Sig - all my P229's in those calibers have been accurate out of the box with zero issues and very easy to shoot. These are from the 90's with legacy slides with my SAS 2's being more recent models.

If you look in the classifieds I'd suggest picking up a non CA MODEL, with non of that LCI b.s. and I've seen good deals on blued P229's in the $7-800 range in excellent condition.

My pick would be .40SW in a P229, and you can't go wrong with a 9mm either nevertheless.
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Agreed, go with a non CA pistol. The SRT trigger is a must.
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P229 is a great gun. Extremely accurate and easy to shoot. You won't regret buying one.

Agreed. Strongly recommend.
I was an early purchaser back in 93, none of that CA BS back then.
Over the years I added Hogue grips, Heine straight 8 tritium sights and the short reset mod. Picked up a .357 Sig barrel as well, 40SW mags work for .357 Sig
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Old 08-12-2017, 11:09 PM
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The 229 Enhanced Elite is on roster and has no LCI or disconnect.
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Old 08-12-2017, 11:58 PM
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The 229 Enhanced Elite is on roster and has no LCI or disconnect.
Which on are you talking about? There's two Enhance Elite P229 on the Roster one in 9 and one in 40, both has the LCI. The pictures on the internet is no accurate.
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Old 08-13-2017, 12:07 AM
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Picked one up a few years ago. Used and for a pretty good price. Absolutely love it! A Sig armorer buddy of mine changed out all of the springs, installed an SRT kit and thin trigger and it's a great shooter and very reliable!

I put some Hogue G-10 grips on it and they (to me) are about as thin and look better than the E2 thin grips. Overall, I have nothing bad to say about it, very accurate, eats all the ammo I feed it and it's fun to shoot. Up next i'll probably put some night sights on it. I would recommend trying one
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Of the classic P-Series the P229 of current production is my favorite Sig pistol. I purchased the one below with a factory SRT installed. I added Trijicon HD XR's - GGI P-SAIT trigger shoe - 18lbs hammer spring and I also polished the hammer strut where it engages the hammer. These small modifications have made this DA/SA simply amazing.

Here a quick video at 25 yards and a 7 yard bill drill -
https://youtu.be/IbjPHLk5ASM
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This is the P229 above in action-
https://youtu.be/h1-hk2kTdzA
Here is my 229 legion in action-
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Did I post this in my sleep? OP I am in the same boat right now. I recommend heading to a local gun store to try them out if you haven't already. I did yesterday (Reed's in San Jose has multiple models).

I have a p220 (45) and I love it, but shooting a 229 with a short reset trigger very nice. There is not many choices for the 229 on-roster, only the regular and elite (short reset trigger, night sights, beaver tail frame.) And both are CA versions (ugly CA loaded chamber indicator, mag disconnect safety) so I too recommend used.

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http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s....php?t=1366456

^I am in no way associated with that guy but someone please get that Sig before I waste any more money, money that I need to be saving... Pretty much a Stainless Sig no-LCI for $650.

edit: luckily someone took it, whew for that price which is literally 50% of an asking price in a free state I was surprised it lasted as long as it did.

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Smoking deal! I had to get out of there quick....I had to ban myself for the month from the marketplace so I can concentrate on ammo haha
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^I am in no way associated with that guy but someone please get that Sig before I waste any more money, money that I need to be saving... Pretty much a Stainless Sig no-LCI for $650.

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Also POTUS is protected by agents carrying P229s.
I think that says a lot.
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Dude, just get the gun. Don't look back. You won't be dissappointed.

As far as frames cracking n ****. ...that's sooo in the past. Don't listen

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Which on are you talking about? There's two Enhance Elite P229 on the Roster one in 9 and one in 40, both has the LCI. The pictures on the internet is no accurate.
9mm. And no it doesn't have a LCI.
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9mm. And no it doesn't have a LCI.
Give me a link to where I can buy it for future reference since I am looking for one.
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I have a p229 in 40sw that was made in the early 90's. It has been a safe queen. I am interested in selling it, I also have the 22lr kit for it.
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Give me a link to where I can buy it for future reference since I am looking for one.
I'm no where near you so I can't do your legwork for you. Walk into any FFL, point at the roster page and ask. That's all I did.
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I'm no where near you so I can't do your legwork for you. Walk into any FFL, point at the roster page and ask. That's all I did.
My FFL already told me there is no P229 without an LCI. I can't simply point to a P229 without accidentally ordering an LCI one and thus losing my deposit. Just tell me the name of your FFL I will make the drive.
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My FFL already told me there is no P229 without an LCI. I can't simply point to a P229 without accidentally ordering an LCI one and thus losing my deposit. Just tell me the name of your FFL I will make the drive.
You are correct there is no 229 without an lci on roster.....someone on here is misinformed. Ppt only
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My favorite semi auto pistol. Get the enhanced elite for the sights and trigger. Outstanding weapon.
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I've got 2 older P229's, one with a rail, one without. Both are fantastic, especially in .357 SIG.
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I have a P229 Nitron. It is all California-loaded chamber indicator, magazine disconnect. It has the crappy stock trigger. And I love it.
Great balance in the hands. Not much recoil. Accurate as hell.
Is the LCI ugly? Hell yeah. Would it be more reliable without the mag disco? Probably, if you follow the "simpler is better" advice. Neither the LCI nor the disco bother me. The trigger is the only thing I would change to the SRT upgrade. It is an excellent gun, even out of the California box.
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I bought a P229 in .40 S&W since it was designed to fire the .40 S&W round. For 9mm, I prefer the P226 because of the longer sight radius. Even though the P229 is considered a "compact", I don't think it's any easier to conceal than the P226. The P229 is big and heavy imo.

With that said, my P229 has been ridiculously reliable. I would put it up against any of my Glocks in a torture test.
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Well I did it OP. 10 day wait starts today.

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I currently own 3 P229's and have owned more in the past. It's by far my favorite pistol, be it in 9mm, .40 SW, or 357 Sig. I recently picked up a stainless steel Elite P229 in 357 Sig. The first time I took it to the range, I decided to try a Mozambique drill at 7 yards for the first shots just for fun (I'm not at all tactical, and I'm no expert marksman.) I couldn't believe that each of shots were dead center placement!
All of my P229's have been more accurate than I am, and have made me look like I'm a decent shot.
The only issue that I've ever had with one was with 1 OEM magazine that wouldn't hold hold the slide back after the last round. But that was a magazine issue and not a P229 issue.

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I've carried the 229 in 9mm pictured below since 2009. Probably manufactured in 2008. Has a rail & night sights. Best I can recall, it's only ever malfunctioned when I've ridden my thumb on the slide release like a goober. It feels heavy for a pistol that only holds 13+1, thanks to the metal frame. I'm a small guy, so I have trouble carrying it CCW (shout out to my LCP). It shoots more accurately than I'm capable of, trigger has always felt smooth and crisp, I like the reset. If I had to change anything, I'd make it lighter and a little thinner (small hands), and increase mag capacity.


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