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Old 01-24-2011, 3:31 PM
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So I was at the Ventura Fairgrounds Gun show a week ago and there were several manufacturers for gun safes on hand. Most names I recognized, but there was a comapny I had not heard of there. Sun Welding Safe Company. They are based out of Simi VAlley where they manufacture and sell their safes. They had several models on display and they all looked great as far as fit and finish and the staff on hand was pretty knowledgable. But, I was curious if any of you guys had heard of them and would recommend them at all? Cause I am looking to get a safe and would love to buy a safe made in the U.S., and especially in California.

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I purchased a sun welding pony express model back around 1991 and am very happy with it. Very well constructed. Burgandy with gold accents, still looks as good as the day I got it. I have not seen the newer ones, hopefully they are just as good or better. Also I really like the exposed hinges, the door lifts right off and makes moving it so much easier.
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They started out in early 1980's, in a welding shop in Moorpark. Good product for the money.
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I bought a safe from Hall's Safe Co. Made in California, excellent quality IMO. Purchased in '91

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http://www.hallsafe.com/main.html

WOW, those are nice, really like the custom wood interiors in the sample photos on the website.
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My safe is 100% made in CA with American steel!

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I bought mine from them in the mid 1980's , from the same blonde girl that still sells them at the gun show.
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Sun is good stuff. When I worked at Dodge City in Santa barbara, we sold the heck out of them.

The big ones are really heavy for two fat guys to deliver though
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I think they are good products at fair prices!

I own two of Sun's larger, higher end safe's and am very pelased with their fit,finish and construction. THey are a very good value for your $$$ IMHO; thicker plate construction and weight fror the same money as their competitors, much nicer finishes than the more budget brands for not a lot more $$.
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I bought one in late 2009. it barely fit through the door space to the man cave, had to take off the room door and the handle from the safe.

It is good deal and good construction. I am happy with it.

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Sweet!

I like hearing all this. Looks like they may be getting my business once I get my tax return.
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I bought a safe from Hall's Safe Co. Made in California, excellent quality IMO. Purchased in '91

Hall's is probably toast, the email address does not work, and their phone # is disconnected. and, the website has a 2007 price list and brochure.

21 gun salute...
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Hall's is probably toast, the email address does not work, and their phone # is disconnected. and, the website has a 2007 price list and brochure.

21 gun salute...
Wow, no kidding. Hmmm interesting.
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I bought a Sun Welding safe. I love it. Good price, looks good. If you go to their show room on easy st. in Simi, they have a couple safes for display. One had been through a fire, interior was fine, the other some thugs spent the better part of an entire night trying to get into....unsuccessfully.


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Now there is something I had not considered! Which side the door should hinge on! I guess most (?) safes hinge on the right, but the one in the photo hinges on the left. hmmmm..

Years ago, I fought with a fridge in a kitchen. It was so darned difficult to get into! When it came time to move it out so a new one could be brought in, the salesman said, "These doors are reversible." It NEVER occurred to me to check!

I wonder what it would take for a safe company to offer a reversible door?
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I bought a Sun Welding safe. I love it. Good price, looks good. If you go to their show room on easy st. in Simi, they have a couple safes for display. One had been through a fire, interior was fine, the other some thugs spent the better part of an entire night trying to get into....unsuccessfully.


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[IMG][/IMG]
Nice. Sweet looking safe. Now the model you have is a Scout, which is what I was looking at. I was thinking of the S34 model. What options did you get with yours and what did it set you back? You can PM me if you want, but I am really curious.
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Nice. Sweet looking safe. Now the model you have is a Scout, which is what I was looking at. I was thinking of the S34 model. What options did you get with yours and what did it set you back? You can PM me if you want, but I am really curious.
I honestly can't remember the model, I'll check when I get home from work (around 3:00) I just got standard features, my interior is "convertible", (good thing, cuz it's filling up). As far as price, I want to say it was just shy of $1500, I'll double check that too. Have you been to their store? It's a small place but they do great work. Oh, and they can hinge your door on whatever side you like. Here's their website.
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Here's a rare glimpse into my safe. It may be an S-34....that sounds familiar.


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O.K., Home now....It is the S34, but I can't find my receipt so I'm not sure what I paid exactly. It was about 5 or so years ago.
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I like the look of the safes, and since I am so close to Simi I like that too. But this is what concerns me:

In the fire liner options it states "fire board". I really hope that the fireboard isn't gypsum. I would really look into that. I am in the market for a safe as well and I know from experience gypsum attracts moisture. moisture is bad for guns. I have a cheapo sentry safe and I got pretty bad rust on my wheel gun. Desiccant can't keep up with it, I once used damp rid and it collected a pint of water in a month (in a small safe mind you).
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I don't know if they use gypsum or not, a quick phone call can clear that up though. I can tell you with absolute certainty that none of my guns have ANY rust. I've never heard of a company using gypsum....definitely something to look at.
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I honestly can't remember the model, I'll check when I get home from work (around 3:00) I just got standard features, my interior is "convertible", (good thing, cuz it's filling up). As far as price, I want to say it was just shy of $1500, I'll double check that too. Have you been to their store? It's a small place but they do great work. Oh, and they can hinge your door on whatever side you like. Here's their website.
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Thanks for that info. When I was at the gun show they were selling them for $790 and they honored that price until Jan. 21st. I was bummed because I did nothave the cash on hand tobuy it out right then and there. But the girl assured me that they routinely have sales on their safes, especially when they go to gun shows; and to just periodically check their website and call to check on their prices.

As far as going to their store I drove by their location on the 21st because I was in the area, but they had already closed up and I was not sure if I had actually found their store front. I f I had found it, I can assure you I would have driven away with a "new" heavy load in the back of my truck.

I like the look of their safes and I do want to purchase one. Plus as a former resident of Simi Valley, I think I owe them.
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I was always told that a good safe does not have external hinges. They should always be internal so they cannot be accessed.

Any thoughts?
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i have a model 48 that i bought in 1997 for 700 dollars. it can hold up to 12 long arms. pretty sturdy safe and it still looks fairly new.
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I've had mine for 3 years and love it (as much as you can love a safe) never a problem and seals good, bearly got it in the room it's in but even the wife likes it.
I ordered it through The Gun Shop in Lancaster and had a custom name painted on the front at no extra charge.

I like seeing all the good remarks about it, they are an American company and right here in SoCal.
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I was always told that a good safe does not have external hinges. They should always be internal so they cannot be accessed.

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The hinges aren't that big of a concern on these, the "dead bolts" are on both sides of the doors so if you cut the hinges, it won't do you any good.
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Thanks for that info. When I was at the gun show they were selling them for $790 and they honored that price until Jan. 21st. I was bummed because I did nothave the cash on hand tobuy it out right then and there. But the girl assured me that they routinely have sales on their safes, especially when they go to gun shows; and to just periodically check their website and call to check on their prices.

As far as going to their store I drove by their location on the 21st because I was in the area, but they had already closed up and I was not sure if I had actually found their store front. I f I had found it, I can assure you I would have driven away with a "new" heavy load in the back of my truck.

I like the look of their safes and I do want to purchase one. Plus as a former resident of Simi Valley, I think I owe them.
If you catch them when they're open you'll know, they have a mock up safe out front when they are open.
I found my price sheet, $1299. I think my paint was considered custom at the time and I had the 3 spoke handle instead of the single. I think those were considered upgrades at the time where as now they may not be. The bottom line is that I'm very happy with mine and will purchase a second one from them in the future. I don't see my collection shrinking any time soon.
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I was always told that a good safe does not have external hinges. They should always be internal so they cannot be accessed.

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External hinges are fine, actually better.

External hinges allow the door to open further, and any decent safe does NOT use the hinges to secure the door. The bolts/pins/lugs etc secure the door in place. A thief lacking knowledge might even waste a bunch of time hacking away at hinges because they appear to be a weak point, while they have no role in securing the door at all.

I recently bought a big Liberty safe, and I consider the internal hinges a disadvantage. It has five BIG lugs on each side, the hinges don't add a bit to security, but they do take up internal space and limit the door to just over a 90 degree opening.
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External hinges are fine, actually better.

External hinges allow the door to open further, and any decent safe does NOT use the hinges to secure the door. The bolts/pins/lugs etc secure the door in place. A thief lacking knowledge might even waste a bunch of time hacking away at hinges because they appear to be a weak point, while they have no role in securing the door at all.

I recently bought a big Liberty safe, and I consider the internal hinges a disadvantage. It has five BIG lugs on each side, the hinges don't add a bit to security, but they do take up internal space and limit the door to just over a 90 degree opening.

Cool... thanks for the info!!! No more worries about finding a safe with internal hinges. A wider opening door would be a plus.
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Alright... thanks to all the feed back from this sight and given that a gun show just occurred, so their pricing is where I want it, I am calling up Sun Welding today to order me up a safe. Even got the wife all jones up on it. She has been hassling me about it for two years and I never even knew it. Guess I should have listened to her.
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Alright... thanks to all the feed back from this sight and given that a gun show just occurred, so their pricing is where I want it, I am calling up Sun Welding today to order me up a safe. Even got the wife all jones up on it. She has been hassling me about it for two years and I never even knew it. Guess I should have listened to her.
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Cool... thanks for the info!!! No more worries about finding a safe with internal hinges. A wider opening door would be a plus.
Yep, mine is in a corner and the door will open 180 degrees. Makes it easy to access things.

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