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Old 03-05-2018, 9:40 AM
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He did, manager said it was legal.
Just buy a new grip if you worry. Sub 20 bucks
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Old 03-05-2018, 9:47 AM
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One time I was on the pot dropping my morning dookie. The lead sheet of toilet paper on a new roll of Charmin was on way too tight. I got my unwiped arse up off the seat and took that roll straight to Vons and really let the manager have it.

It just looks like it's riding too low. Why "give anyone hell". Loosen two screws, raise it the 1-2mm of play it looks like you have, and call it a day. Or god forbid dremel a slight amount of Kydex off the top. SMH.
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Also, no offense to anybody, but jeez that thing is ugly.
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One time I was on the pot dropping my morning dookie. The lead sheet of toilet paper on a new roll of Charmin was on way too tight. I got my unwiped arse up off the seat and took that roll straight to Vons and really let the manager have it.

It just looks like it's riding too low. Why "give anyone hell". Loosen two screws, raise it the 1-2mm of play it looks like you have, and call it a day. Or god forbid dremel a slight amount of Kydex off the top. SMH.
There are no screws. Not that type of grip wrap, it is not adjustable.

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Good grief OP................................................ ....................!

Did you not look at this AR before you took possession of it! Why did you not raise Holy Cain over this issue then?

You know how stupid the gun laws are and how lame a grip wrap is. Are grip wraps really going to stop an evil person from committing a criminal act?

Believe me there are liberal trolls on Calguns looking for threads like the one you just started to use for stricter gun laws. Put your big boy panties on and have Turner's fix it to your liking or fix it yourself!

I put this thread next to the; "I can fit more than 10 rounds in my factory magazine!".

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I can make a better grip wrap out of cardboard and duct tape.
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Also, no offense to anybody, but jeez that thing is ugly.
I COULDN’T AGREE more my friend..
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Yikes!...
Turners should just get them from someone who knows how to make them right.
Like this guy here:

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Yikes!...
Turners should just get them from someone who knows how to make them right.
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http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s....php?t=1219997
I don't really understand the point of kydex wraps. There's a ton of play that they have by nature and they just feel less than solid. There's a variety of purpose-built options for both fin-style grip and the Sparrow/Hammerhead style for very cheap. If you go to a free state, you can just replace your compliant option with a standard grip via a single screw.
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I don't really understand the point of kydex wraps. There's a ton of play that they have by nature and they just feel less than solid. There's a variety of purpose-built options for both fin-style grip and the Sparrow/Hammerhead style for very cheap. If you go to a free state, you can just replace your compliant option with a standard grip via a single screw.
The point of the grip wrap is to be featureless compliant but sure, it's all personal preference, I would rather remove a simple wrap than change out the entire grip holding spring and detent, if I would find myself somewhere that this would be legal of course.
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I can wrap my thumb around my strike industries simple grip too, but is above the top of the trigger, by definition of the law, good to go. Just as your is.
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OP you make a habit of fingering that trigger? Looks like you may have some bad habits there.
Finger on trigger, mag in gun, safety off... Posting a pic like this... The over analyzing... There are so many wrongs with this thread.
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bro....if you're worried about it...just go buy a new one...not a big deal. No need to post about it here.

Its literally 10-20 bucks
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I'm not a turners fan but at least turners is sticking there neck out and getting those Ars to us in Cali.

Just like Cali attitude we turn on each other quick like....making it easy for dicks, rei and the state of Cali for to do each other in...
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Why does your grip look like it's been cut?

I'm seeing rough edges and uneven curves none of which match what Turner's sells.

Yours looks to have been modified.


This is what I'm seeing Turner's selling:



This is yours:

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Why does your grip look like it's been cut?

I'm seeing rough edges and uneven curves none of which match what Turner's sells.

Yours looks to have been modified.


This is what I'm seeing Turner's selling:



This is yours:

OPs grip like someone opened it up a little when you enlarge the photo.
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the top of that fin appears to be ground or shaved down down when compared to the rifle in turners ad.
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After all this drama and wasting time and gas going back and forth, bet you change that $10 grip anyway. Also, as kestryll mentioned, that wrap looks altered.
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Hmmm . . . . The plot thickens.
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The new Turner's flyer shows a LMT AR with a pistol grip. How is that?
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OP's two threads on this need to be merged.
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Is it me or is it a pet peeve of anyone else when they see the safety off on an AR that isn't at the range? Something just makes me feel uncomfortable about it, don't know why.
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Is it me or is it a pet peeve of anyone else when they see the safety off on an AR that isn't at the range? Something just makes me feel uncomfortable about it, don't know why.
ARs have to be charged to activate the safety, usually the hammer isnt even back when you see them with safety off in pictures.
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I bought this featureless AR from Turner's but it seems to not really be featureless because I can still wrap my thumb around the pistol grip. This is how the firearm came from the manufacturer, could this be considered an illegal "assault rifle" by the ATF? See pictures below. I'm new to the AR platform and would like your guy's input. Thanks.

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This isn’t even close to an assault rifle as per BATF. This is a standard AR with a pistol grip device that limits you from gripping your factory OEM pistol grip. BATF would probably even recommend you take that thing off as it does more bad than good in your normal day to day operations.

California in their unique wisdom says you have to have that ugly monstrosity on the firearm.

Looks fine to me. A bit altered though.
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Looks like someone too a dremel to it

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Yes, I stand corrected by a few others on the forum. It's on Turner's if they are selling rifles that do not meet the featureless requirement.
No. It's not.

Violation of laws or regulations concerning sales aren't an affirmative defense for charges of violating laws or regulations concerning possession. In other words, you can't argue you're allowed to have something simply because someone sold it to you. Take any one of the letters in ATFE, and you'll find you can purchase things federally that are illegal at a state or local level, things that are legal by themselves but possessed together disparately or assembled constitute either constructive or unlawful possession respectively, or even legal at a state level that are illegal federally.

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Also, don't ask if something violates the law, post pictures with EXIF data of you engaging in it, on a forum actively monitored by law enforcement.

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Why you would take pictures of this and post it on the internet rather than fix it is beyond me.
I think we can SEE why.

That fin appears to have been mutilated in a way that is different from how Turner's sells the grip-wrap.

Anything is possible, such as if Turners actually installed one on this AR that was pulled from another gun where it had been modified to fit that gun, or maybe this was a consignment gun and the spacing was overlooked? Otherwise, it may just be someone trying to cause a stir.

However it may have occurred, that grip-wrap looks particularly chunked-up in the area near the "web of the hand between the thumb and index finger".

Typically this grip-wrap does not allow this area below the action shown by the yellow line below:



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OPs grip like someone opened it up a little when you enlarge the photo.
Yea, I've seen the ones at Turners, they don't look like the OPs picture..

Maybe he just wants a payout from Turners.. not sure why his best idea was trying to throw them under the bus online.. does he want the CADOJ to hassle them??

Why not just go back to Turners and ask? Or did he mod the grip and is now worried he made it non-compliant?

In any event, as Kes said, it looks modded.
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The new Turner's flyer shows a LMT AR with a pistol grip. How is that?
I was there yesterday..

Many of their ARs now have locked mags.. the way riflegear does it.

Maybe they got tired of people modding their grip wraps and then complaining online? lol
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OP is probably a liberal democrat, trying to use "gorilla tactics" to get the AR15/Turners/gun owners in trouble, and is now MIA since called out on his BS
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OP is probably a liberal democrat, trying to use "gorilla tactics" to get the AR15/Turners/gun owners in trouble, and is now MIA since called out on his BS
This issue has been already addressed by Turner's. I brought the lower in and they gave me a featureless grip replacement. Once again, to all the naysayers no I did not modify the grip, that is how it came. Turner's inspected themselves.

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This issue has been already addressed by Turner's. I brought the lower in and they gave me a featureless grip replacement. Once again, to all the naysayers no I did not modify the grip, that is how it came. Turner's inspected themselves.
That's fantastic OP. Good on you for making 100% sure you are in complete compliance with the law and remaining the subservient, docile subject the state wants you to be.
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Fancy looking AR like that, looks like it needs a MIAD with Exile back fin anyway or maybe a MonsterMan grip.
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That's fantastic OP. Good on you for making 100% sure you are in complete compliance with the law and remaining the subservient, docile subject the state wants you to be.
Big words from Nevada; it's clear you haven't an inkling on this or why.

What he bought and when he bought it afforded him no options but to purchase a rifle that was compliant by being featureless or a fixed magazine (or BB2); he may as well get the right parts if that's the case.

I'm extremely against this state's registration schemes, especially when there are options to still remain within the law and own/use/shoot an AR in public. I'm all for anyone not registering; he's merely staying within the law. Nothing wrong with that.

Would not buying any guns be a better idea?

Buying an AR in a legal configuration in CA, since you have no other choice at this point and that is the ONLY way to acquire one, is far from being "subservient, docile" at a time when majority of states, media, and leftists are calling for bans on AR15s.

Quite the opposite.

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This issue has been already addressed by Turner's. I brought the lower in and they gave me a featureless grip replacement. Once again, to all the naysayers no I did not modify the grip, that is how it came. Turner's inspected themselves.
All's well that ends well.

As I said above, anything's possible. I still suspect Turner's simply put one on your gun that was actually modified to fit something else, such as another AR with a different stock, a CZ Bren 805, SCAR, PTR-91, etc., as Turners sells plenty of other rifles needing various shaped grip-wraps/fins.

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No, just no........cannot do those.
Even if it means
no AW registration and...
Regular 10 round mag dumps and..
No BB and...
No disassembly of the receiver...

No brainer for me.
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