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Old 10-14-2018, 7:54 PM
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Did an ar pistol PPT (I'm the buyer) and the FFL I was at drosd the pistol as a single shot, is that going to be an issue if I go to sell later? It's a stripped Noveske lower, obviously when I go to build it, it's not going to be a single shot.

Does it matter for myself? Does it matter if I go to sell it down the road? What are my options?
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Old 10-14-2018, 7:55 PM
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Doesn't matter, we just have to sell it that way.once you have it you can do whatever you want with it as long as you follow the law, for example don't make it full auto LOL

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When did said transaction occur?
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Hmmnn I thought they "FIXED" that work around?!
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We still sell brand new single shot AR pistols, they fixed part of it but not all of it
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Can you explain the change and what effect it has on the purchase/ owner.

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Old 10-15-2018, 6:52 AM
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Can you explain the change and what effect it has on the purchase/ owner.
Effectively, they changed it so you can't single shot a firearm that had been manufactured as a semi-automatic at any point in his life. That means you can't do it to a Glock or something like that because they were already a semi-auto so you can't convert to single shot that doesn't work anymore. If a firearm is manufactured by an FFL 07 as a single shot from its Inception it's still okay

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Did an ar pistol PPT (I'm the buyer) and the FFL I was at drosd the pistol as a single shot, is that going to be an issue if I go to sell later? It's a stripped Noveske lower, obviously when I go to build it, it's not going to be a single shot.

Does it matter for myself? Does it matter if I go to sell it down the road? What are my options?
How in Sam Hill Tarnation did you get a stripped AR lower transferred as a single shot handgun?

I thought that was not possible with the DOJ, had to be an assembled single shot.

I read it on Calguns where they have all those Internet Lawyers and Internet LE folks so I thought it was true.
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How in Sam Hill Tarnation did you get a stripped AR lower transferred as a single shot handgun?

I thought that was not possible with the DOJ, had to be an assembled single shot.

I read it on Calguns where they have all those Internet Lawyers and Internet LE folks so I thought it was true.
You may be confusing "stripped" with "80%" which in my case it was a brand name completed pistol lower with 0 parts in it i.e. no trigger, no safety, nothing.
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No, he's right, it has to be assembled... If the doj did an audit and found a stripped lower being dros'd as a pistol to a non-exempt person it wouldn't end well

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No, he's right, it has to be assembled... If the doj did an audit and found a stripped lower being dros'd as a pistol to a non-exempt person it wouldn't end well

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It was a PPT, it's exempt, why would that matter? I'm not super up to date on the FFL side of things, so just genuinely inquiring.
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It was a PPT, it's exempt, why would that matter? I'm not super up to date on the FFL side of things, so just genuinely inquiring.
I didn't catch PPT, in that case there would be no reason to do it as single shot

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Old 10-16-2018, 10:59 AM
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Whoa, how much? I knew this was possible, but wasn't aware of anybody who did it?
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depends on what parts I am supplying and what you are supplying, starts at about $300 and goes up from there. PM me if you have specific questions and I'll get back to you! I usually use Aero Precision M5 for 308 and M4E1 for 556

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Old 10-16-2018, 11:47 AM
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If you have a dros paper with a single shot written on it and you present that to a cop who's not really up to date to the legality of ar pistol. Do you feel confident that he might not issue citation for having a semi auto pistol?That's one question you can only answer bec it's you who's gonna sufffer the consequences. I'm just being a devils advocate. Lol
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If you have a dros paper with a single shot written on it and you present that to a cop who's not really up to date to the legality of ar pistol. Do you feel confident that he might not issue citation for having a semi auto pistol?That's one question you can only answer bec it's you who's gonna sufffer the consequences. I'm just being a devils advocate. Lol
Why in the world would you be showing your DROS for a firearm to a LEO? He would look it up in the AFS and find it registered to you. As long as it is not an unregistered AW he can't tell single shot from semi-auto nor should he give a ****.
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If you have a dros paper with a single shot written on it and you present that to a cop who's not really up to date to the legality of ar pistol. Do you feel confident that he might not issue citation for having a semi auto pistol?That's one question you can only answer bec it's you who's gonna sufffer the consequences. I'm just being a devils advocate. Lol
No offense, but you're not saying anything clever, useful, or insightful. This is literally an argument that can be used not only against owning any sort of firearm, but against getting up from bed in the morning. "WHAT IF A COP THINKS I RAN OVER SOMEBODY ON THE WAY TO WORK? GUESS I BETTER STAY IN BED."
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From what I gather, it shouldn't effect me from what's been discussed in this thread, but the fact that it was done as a single shot was weird.
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From what I gather, lots of FFLs have trouble with how to transfer stripped receivers of all kinds. I did a PPT of a glock lower, and there were discussions with managers, what to put for caliber? What category would it be? How can we do safe handling without the upper? Just lots of confusion.
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From what I gather, lots of FFLs have trouble with how to transfer stripped receivers of all kinds. I did a PPT of a glock lower, and there were discussions with managers, what to put for caliber? What category would it be? How can we do safe handling without the upper? Just lots of confusion.
There is no caliber selection for a bare receiver. Safe handling would be with a similar type of firearm if possible.
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