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View Poll Results: Are ya a Grunt or a POG?
Grunt 57 41.61%
POG 50 36.50%
I was a Grunt but turned POG/ POG to Grunt.... 13 9.49%
Mandatory bacon option 30 21.90%
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Question Are ya Grunt or a POG???

Since the poncho liner/wobbie thread got side tracked...I want to know.....are ya a grunt or a POG????

Yea yea, bullets don't fly without supply.

You wouldn't get paid if it wasn't up to admin...
You'd have to walk everywhere...


Blah blah blah...I think everyone should be infantry first, then given the chance to go to a different MOS...

Dont even get me started on deployment dodgers!!!

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Grunt.
However most know us by death delivering sex tornados.

Yeah bullets don't fly without supply. Can't eat without cooks, transport without drivers. Well myself and most other grunts can all safely say we are used to being cold, wet, hungry and sleep deprived and still close with and destroy the enemy. Especially light and airborne. I'd much rather strap on my boots and ruck than be sitting in some metal death trap.

Any true grunt knows that it is pronounced pogue. But it's spelled POG. Personnel Other than Grunts.

Ha now that I got that meat eater rant out. Respect to everyone who has served. Even the POGs.
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Air Weenie POG with a lengthy Page 11.
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Grunt for life! Light infantry machine gunner. Every MOS is basically infantry though, right?
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Light infantry here too. Designated Marksman.


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POG (protector of grunts) here!

Cobra and Huey Mechanic!

Mad respect for you grunts!
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I am an 1833, amphibious assault vehicle crewman, but in Iraq, all I did was foot patrols.

So, my unit was am-grunts, so that makes me pog turned grunt.

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Grunt for life! Light infantry machine gunner. Every MOS is basically infantry though, right?
No, every marine is a rifleman which is not infantry. Infantry is infantry.
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C4ISR Sensor Operator POG on a land-based surveillance aircraft... proudly embracing my POGness on 6 month deployments where "hardship location" is somewhere where the WiFi is less than 10mb/sec and/or per diem is less than $50/day.
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Calling it a Woobie is not MOS specific we all love the Woobie. but I fix the **** you break or cant start.
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Calling it a Woobie is not MOS specific we all love the Woobie. but I fix the **** you break or cant start.
ITS NOT A GOD D@MN WOOBIE!!! ITS A FRACKING PONCHO LINER!!!
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I do see why it was once called a smoking jacket though. So soft and silky. I actually preferred my wooly pully under my utility blouse with the "woobie" trouser liner underneath. The field jacket liner was overkill. Everybody stopped using a lot of that stuff once the Gore-Tex came out. That was a prime theft, I mean, aquired item. Those brisk mornings at El Toro were SO rough.
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Grunt 0311 and Designated Marksman here too with 3/7, at 18 I didn't see a point in joining the Corps to be anything else. As our BC used to say "The entire rest of the Corps was to support Infantry". As any Grunt will tell you, many times we only had the food, ammo and water we could carry and humped everywhere. I did love Helos, AAV's and Motor T, that meant we got rides
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ITS NOT A GOD D@MN WOOBIE!!! ITS A FRACKING PONCHO LINER!!!
Yat-yas!
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Confused here - I don't think I'm a pog but, if I'm not sure maybe I am.

Helicopter Doorgunner w/ 14 Air Medals & 1 w/ V.
Viet Nam Campaign with 4 battle stars including Cambodian Incursion.
Vietnamese Cross of Gallantry w/ Palm.
Crashed twice, dinged once.

But, here's the kicker - I went home every night, shared a hootch w/ 3 other guys with the usual stereos, refridgerators, & electric fans. Had a Mama-san for my laundry, shine my boots, & make up my bunk. Decent mess-hall and no KP or poo burning as we had VN civilians for this. EM club with swimming pool & Red Cross girls. I did have to pull guard duty (either bunker or flight line) once a month - oh the humanity!

So I chose Bacon - and it's a frickin' poncho liner!
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ITS NOT A GOD D@MN WOOBIE!!! ITS A FRACKING PONCHO LINER!!!
by NSN it's called that. but calm down Francis. it's a woobie no matter how you slice it.
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2:1 ratio of grunts to POGs? That's not accurate.
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Infantry corpsman. Spent more time with the grunts than the actual Navy. I don't even know how to Navy.
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ITS NOT A GOD D@MN WOOBIE!!! ITS A FRACKING PONCHO LINER!!!
Thanks, Mike - I'm tired of hearing that term, too (f'ing pogs). Grunt here - and never heard the term "woobie" used, ever, prior to separating.
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Former ARNG wrench monkey here. That's pretty much the way my recruiter presented it, saying Basic was combat training and AIT was additional skills, that 11B was just more of the same.

The only servicemen I knew when I signed up were recruiters. He highlighted the bigger signing bonuses, which varied wildly from year to year (with 0 for 11B that year) but a few grand seems meaningful to penniless and impressionable teenagers. He even advocated longer AIT time as an advantage to learning "more". I get it, the Army was fulfilling its needs and needed more of one than the other.

By the time I was really exposed to the combat arms/support distinction, I was well into my contract (did a split-op so was shielded a bit from it for almost 2 years) and the plan was to pay for college. Funny times when my AIT classmates who did basic in Benning would try to brag about what a harder time they had although the story broke down in the details; we also had Ranger drill sergeants who got us good, story for another thread.

I was in an HHC and we trained with infantry during some drills. I experienced some of the grunt camaraderie; there were fleeting moments of brotherhood between strangers that remain lucid memories. Overall maturity was probably the biggest determinant, though, in the culture. With ex-grunts in my unit, we had our share of jokes and reprisals (ie bullet-catcher) but I would take the rubs in good humor and I rather enjoyed having a good all-around laugh.

I've sometimes thought of how life would've been different as I hit the range or dropzone on weekends. But time moves quickly and you have to look ahead with (hopefully) lessons from the past. The digs were never taken very seriously by anyone because they were similar to jokes on one's name; things that aren't unchangeable but took different, personal criteria to change, just like one's civilian profession.

Later on, the Iraq war didn't help in recruiting grunts. It got Pat Tillman to have second thoughts. Having a controversial mission deterred candidates from all roles, as I found out on recruiting detail one summer.
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2:1 ratio of grunts to POGs? That's not accurate.
True that. A friend, non-Veteran, working State Corrections asked me why every Veteran working for them were Green Beret, Marine Recon or Navy SEAL.

You know guys do exaggerate but really! The janitor at my child's school is Green Beret (and a Colonel), my previous barber a Navy SEAL.
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Everyone I meet was infantry.....odd since I thought the majority of the military was support.

Red flag for me is when they freely offer up info that they were a special operator.


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QM and Signal Corps here.
I did get to instruct on how to fire the LAWS though, but that probably doesn't count.
18 years of POG-ness.
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Grunt, and banger of hot WM's.(hot as in a 6 among regular civilian women)
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0651 Data Systems Specialist here....as POG as it gets.
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"Combat Arms" for me is considered not a POG. If your mission was to leave the wire every day and patrol, then your not a POG. At home not in country, if your anything but infantry.......... Then your a POG. No way around it. You wont get the Pu$$y either.

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"Combat Arms" for me is considered not a POG. If your mission was to leave the wire every day and patrol, then your not a POG. At home not in country, if your anything but infantry.......... Then your a POG. No way around it. You wont get the Pu$$y either.

13F here calling in steel rain and hell from above.
In my opinion based off where I was (Kunar Province), 13F(Fire Support Operator) is more of an infantry position than 11C(Infantry Mortarman).

Our 11cs never left the wire, but the 13f were on every patrol with us. That means the 11c was an artilleryman and the 13f was a guy patrolling with a rifle and radioing in fire support - exact same stuff the 11b did.
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Our field artillery battalion basically became an infantry battalion. They did exact same thing as the infantry unit.

I know a infantry guy that never left the wire. He got his CIB too.


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In my opinion based off where I was (Kunar Province), 13F(Fire Support Operator) is more of an infantry position than 11C(Infantry Mortarman).

Our 11cs never left the wire, but the 13f were on every patrol with us. That means the 11c was an artilleryman and the 13f was a guy patrolling with a rifle and radioing in fire support - exact same stuff the 11b did.
I agree, I just don't have the heart to say I was a grunt, yet I was imbedded with them over my artillery battalion. In the states we reported to the artillery daily, but in the filed or while deployed, I never saw them nor bunked, ate or patrolled with them. We were with our infantry brothers the whole time.
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Grunt, and banger of hot WM's.(hot as in a 6 among regular civilian women)
Hahaha 6!!!!!!

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Grunts were those crunchy things we'd have to pick out of our tracks right???

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