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California 2nd Amend. Political Discussion & Activism Discuss gun rights activism and 2A related political topics here. All advice given is NOT legal counsel. |
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2013 CA SB 53 - Deleon/Yee Ammunition purchase permits (FAILED)
http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/fa...=201320140SB53
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(c) Commencing on September 1, 2014, only those persons listed below or those persons or entities listed in subdivision (d) shall be permitted to purchase ammunition. Prior to the delivery of the ammunition, the vendor shall verify that the person who is receiving delivery of the ammunition is a properly identified person or entity listed in subdivision (d) or one of the following:
(1) A holder of a valid ammunition purchase permit issued pursuant to Section 30370. (2) A person who is authorized to carry loaded firearms pursuant to Section 25900, 25905, 25910, 25925, 26010, 26015, 26025, or 26030. Appears to exempt CCW holders from needing the ammo permit. |
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Now out of state visitors to CA have to furnish a CCW or ownership ID to purchase ammo.Yay.
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Thats only helping them out too. If they think they can pass it and the legal experts think otherwise, wouldnt it be smart to let them play thier hand first?
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theres no way to answer that though. I dont have enough knowledge to say anything about its passing, but if an "expert" says its not going to pass then there can likely be work done to get it to pass. If someone says it will pass, then the panic continues. It only makes sense, especially with CA gov as it is, to expect that it will pass and plan accordingly and then if it doesnt its no biggie to you
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Maybe, I'm mainly afraid it will sit in the courts for years before action is taken.
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I will say one thing though, they are going up against a opponent flush with cash and determination and they are doing so with a bankrupt state and bankrupt court. Lets not give them anything until we take them to court where we have the advantage.
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People who buy ammo will pay for it. You don't think those permits are going to be free do you?
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So im good with the 240,000 rounds I currently own? Cool deal.
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Handgun Registration (and long gun soon) BFSC Thumbprint for ammo (LA City) The 2nd Ammendment didn't stop any of that did it?
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If this passes and goes into effect Sept 1st 2014, I will be moving out of this bull**** state on or before Aug 31st 2014. I will take my successful business and tax dollars out of state and hope this crooked state goes further into debt.
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AB962 anyone?
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That's the goal. A permit means that you need permission to buy ammo. This their goal one way or another the Democrats will take away our rights guns first.
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Permits won't be issued that's the point. And they know it.
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http://govnews.ca.gov/gov39mail/mail.php Thank your neighbor and fellow gun owners for passing Prop 63. For that gun control is a winning legislative agenda. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6Dj8tdSC1A contact the governor https://govnews.ca.gov/gov39mail/mail.php In Memory of Spc Torres May 5th 2006 al-Hillah, Iraq. I will miss you my friend. NRA Life Member. |
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real world results.
Our opponents are practicing the death by a 1000 cuts.
Of course since this bill will affect all gun owners, we can use their proposals to get more people on our side to get of their ***es and get involved. Collectively we got the government we deserve because our fellow gun owners wouldn't pull their weight to protect gun rights. The reality is only a small percentage of gun owners do anything, if the percentage of gun owners who got involved jumped from 1 percent to 10 percent, we wouldn't be having these problems. In all honesty, in an ideal world, we would have 100 percent participation. Last edited by nicki; 12-21-2012 at 2:32 PM.. Reason: add |
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