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Old 02-09-2017, 2:32 PM
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FFL 03 Application mailed 02/08/2017

Live Scan done and COE Application mailed 02/08/2017

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Default C&R FFL 03 application question

Got a NOOBIE question. The application asks for a person's residence ( I assume one' personal residence) and if applicable a separate mailing address. What it does not mention is a shipping address.

Does a C&R gun have to only ship to either the personal address or mailing address if supplied? Or can it ship to a separate shipping address?

I often ship other purchases to my office for safety and security of deliveries instead of having them left on unsecured home front porch. Setting up "signature required" is not fool proof with "drop and run" deliveries that sometimes occur.

How do you handle this?

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No responses to my last question. I will repost outside the Sticky posting.
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Old 03-07-2017, 11:54 AM
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(reposted from C&R application sticky)

Got a NOOBIE question. The application asks for a person's residence ( I assume one' personal residence) and if applicable a separate mailing address. What it does not mention is a shipping address.

Does a C&R gun have to only ship to either the personal address or mailing address if supplied? Or can it ship to a separate shipping address?

I often ship other purchases to my office for safety and security of deliveries instead of having them left on unsecured home front porch. Setting up "signature required" is not fool proof with "drop and run" deliveries that sometimes occur.

How do you handle this?

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Old 03-07-2017, 12:21 PM
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Your FFL goes to the "mailing address", to be displayed there. I assume you must ship all firearms to this address.

e.g. I have "the shop" address (for the mailing address), but I live in another city (residence).
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I put the address in where you live and where you want firearms delivered to, same. For fdx and ups, always hold the package at my nearby center, so i can pickup at my own choosing.
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ATF has stated that you can have firearms delivered to you at ANY address you are currently at. not just those on your license. however, most FFLs will refuse to do so.

but for instance, If I knew an 03 FFL was vacationing away from his home, I could legally ship the firearm to his vacation home.
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So much for the info!

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some questions on filling out the C&R form:

Section 9 - "position and social security number" - since i am applying as an individual (not a corp, partnership, etc), i presume i just put "individual" for the position?

Section 10 "nonimmigrant alien certification" - i would assume this entire section - A, B and C - only applies to nonimmigrant aliens. but section C (related to hunting permits) almost sounds like it applies to US citizens too.

do i submit a copy to the chief of police of my CITY, or does it go to the Sheriff of the COUNTY? the instructions just say to send it to the CLEO of the "locality"

do people typically wait to get their C&R license approved before doing the livescan and applying for their COE?

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Old 03-09-2017, 11:44 AM
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some questions on filling out the C&R form:

Section 9 - "position and social security number" - since i am applying as an individual (not a corp, partnership, etc), i presume i just put "individual" for the position?

Section 10 "nonimmigrant alien certification" - i would assume this entire section - A, B and C - only applies to nonimmigrant aliens. but section C (related to hunting permits) almost sounds like it applies to US citizens too.

do i submit a copy to the chief of police of my CITY, or does it go to the Sheriff of the COUNTY? the instructions just say to send it to the CLEO of the "locality"

do people typically wait to get their C&R license approved before doing the livescan and applying for their COE?

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Section 9: I've always put "collector" and never had a problem.

Section 10: if you're a US citizen, you leave it completely blank, including "C".

If you have a City police dept, then you send a copy to your City police chief. If not, then it goes to the County Sheriff. Basically, who will show up at your door if you call 911?

I did my livescan and sent both apps in at the same time. COE took almost 3 times as long as the 03 to go thru. That's the state for you.
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Thanks again to those who took time to answer questions about C&R and COE applications procedures.

Fed C&R allocation mailed 3/8/17
State LifeScan and COE application mailed 3/9/17

Now I wait ...and wonder... how many C&R guns I will run across during the waiting period to tempt/antagonize me
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This is a timely subject. I bought an old Marlin on Gunbroker, mailed my FFL with the money order. I wrote on the FFL to use the mailing address, the post office won't deliver to the premise address. The seller just called me today to say the rifle was returned undeliverable. Duh, that's why I specifically said to use the mailing address.
This was from a gun shop too.
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03 application mailed 03/03/17. Credit card charged 03/10/17.
Livescan done 03/02/17. COE also mailed 03/03/17.
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FFL03 application, Livescan and COE all done and mailed on Jan 21. Still waiting........

Credit card charged, can't remember what date but I believe it was in Jan.
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FFL03 application in the mail 02/19 (A Sunday, and the day before presidents week). Got it in the mail today, which I'd say is a pretty decent turnaround.
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Finally got my 03FFL last week, took nearly 5 months. Probably all those bad things I said about Obama. Oh well, have COE and C&R now
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Gonna repost this from the Sac forum since I figured it might get more knowledgeable answers in here:

So I'm looking to apply for my C&R, and the ATF requires me to submit a copy of my form to Sac PD, but I'm not sure which address is correct. Anyone else in the City of Sacramento go through this who could help me out? Feel free to PM any info.

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Old 03-24-2017, 11:08 AM
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Gonna repost this from the Sac forum since I figured it might get more knowledgeable answers in here:

So I'm looking to apply for my C&R, and the ATF requires me to submit a copy of my form to Sac PD, but I'm not sure which address is correct. Anyone else in the City of Sacramento go through this who could help me out? Feel free to PM any info.
You have an interim Chief, keep an eye on the 2nd link for changes, but as of right now:

http://www.cityofsacramento.org/Poli...ice-Facilities
http://www.cityofsacramento.org/Poli...From-Our-Chief

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That's it.
It's really just a procedural thing. The receiving desk will open it, time-stamp it, and forward it to the Chief's mailbox.
He will (or won't) look at it, and will put it in a file, or drop it in the shredder.
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Thank you sir!
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03 application mailed 03/03/17. Credit card charged 03/10/17.
Livescan done 03/02/17. COE also mailed 03/03/17.
03 arrived today. Holy crap, is the ATF faster than the state DOJ BOF? I did not expect that to happen...
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Yup...ATF has always been faster than CA DOJ in my experience. The way things are going right now, I wouldn't be surprised if your COE takes another 3 months or more.
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FFL03 application, Livescan and COE all done and mailed on Jan 21. Still waiting........

Credit card charged, can't remember what date but I believe it was in Jan.
COE received 21 March. FFL03 recieved 01 Apr. And then I screwed up the signature block
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What address do I put for my CLEO copy for Orange County?
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What address do I put for my CLEO copy for Orange County?
Is Yorba Linda still contracted to Brea, have their own PD, or contracted with the county now?
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I do believe it's OCSD now.
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Livescan done on 4/7/17
C&R and COE mailed on 4/8/17

EDIT: ATF Charged my credit card on 4/13/17
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I do believe it's OCSD now.
Then the copy would be addressed to Sandra.
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Sent the FFL-03 app to ATF on March 17 was charged about 10 days later, nothing yet

Sent the COE in on March 4, received the COE on April 13
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Livescan 4/13/17
ATF Forms Mailed 4/13/17
COE forms Mailed 4/13/17 - Delivered 4/18/17 @ 6:44 am

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Everything mailed 4/14/17. Edit: COE arrived 6/22/17. Edit: 03 arrived 7/10/17

Entire process from downloading to mailing took an hour and a half including the drive to the Live Scan. Not sure why (laziness) I put this off as long as I did.

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02/08/17 FFL03 & COE Mailed
02/13/17 Card Charged for FFL03
03/04/17 FFL03 Recieved
04/07/17 COE Recieved

So about 2.5 weeks for FFL03 and 2 months for COE
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C&R mailed Mar 31st, card charged April 6th.

COE mailed same day, obvs. no response yet.
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COE mailed same day, obvs. no response yet.
It'll be a while.
I returned mine mid-Feb when I got the renewal... the replacement arrived ON my expiration date less than 2 weeks ago.
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I applied for everything mid march. received the COE in the mail today.

my credit card was charged a while back for the C&R license, but I have not received that yet. the way I read everything, they don't charge your card unless you are approved.... so approximately how long does it take from the time the card is charged until the license is received? or is it a total crapshoot?
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Thanks again to those who took time to answer questions about C&R and COE applications procedures.

Fed C&R allocation mailed 3/8/17
State LifeScan and COE application mailed 3/9/17

Now I wait ...and wonder... how many C&R guns I will run across during the waiting period to tempt/antagonize me

Received the COE from the Sate of California DOJ today, 05/05/2017 - time to acquire about 57 days.

Still waiting for Fed C&R 003 license.


Full confession - so far I've had to DROS a Win 61 and a Win 94 pre 64. Where was the FL03 when I needed it??????
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Received the COE from the Sate of California DOJ today, 05/05/2017 - time to acquire about 57 days.

Still waiting for Fed C&R 003 license.


Full confession - so far I've had to DROS a Win 61 and a Win 94 pre 64. Where was the FL03 when I needed it??????
03 FFL - came in today, 05/16/2017 - time to acquire about 9 weeks

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Mailed 03 FFL application and COE on 5/8/17

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Question regarding addresses: Do I list every address that I've lived at in the past 5 years, or only the addresses that I've tied my driver's license (or other government stuff) to?
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03 arrived today. Holy crap, is the ATF faster than the state DOJ BOF? I did not expect that to happen...
COE finally arrived 06/03/17.

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I listed all my previous addresses regardless of if they were on my DL or not. Fortunately it was only 3 places, and 2 weren't on my DL. Better safe than sorry right? To me, there's no benefit to not listing them (I'm assuming you did a change of address to the DMV and USPS when you moved) since the gov't would know that you lived there.

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I've never done paperwork for address changes, it's always just stayed at my mom's house because it's a PITA to change everything. All my DMV stuff goes there (as does jury duty etc).
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