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Old 02-15-2017, 4:08 PM
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Default Bubba'd Masuer 96 or Paratrooper Rare Version

So I was at my LGS today and saw this. It is a Mauser 96 in 6.5 Swede. But one thing is that the OAL on this rifle is extremely short and the barrel might only be 20 inches. I was wondering is this a real Masuer 96 or a sporter that someone tried to put back into military original condition because it is missing a few parts on the stock but is at a very good price. Could it be some sort of paratrooper model?
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Old 02-15-2017, 4:22 PM
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Bubba. Not original.
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Old 02-15-2017, 4:30 PM
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Looks like someone removed handguard and gave it a Mannlicher look, can't tell in that pic.
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So I was at my LGS today and saw this. It is a Mauser 96 in 6.5 Swede. But one thing is that the OAL on this rifle is extremely short and the barrel might only be 20 inches. I was wondering is this a real Masuer 96 or a sporter that someone tried to put back into military original condition because it is missing a few parts on the stock but is at a very good price. Could it be some sort of paratrooper model?
Definitely a bubba job.

How much are they asking?
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Old 02-15-2017, 7:48 PM
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There is a carbine version of the Swedish Mauser, the Artik-Karlin 94. Go to page 9 -

http://gunsmagazine.com/1960issues/G1060.pdf

They're not $29.99 anymore .

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Old 02-15-2017, 8:03 PM
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There is a carbine version of the Swedish Mauser, the Artik-Karlin 94. Go to page 9 -

http://gunsmagazine.com/1960issues/G1060.pdf

They're not $29.99 anymore .


That is definitely not a M/94. I agree it was a home job though an interesting one, I'll say that. I actually kind of like it. I detest the term "Bubba'd" it lends a certain implication that every modified military surplus rifle is a total hack job. I have a M96 FSR that's been "Bubba'd". But it wasn't by some ham fisted Ozark dweller building a deer rifle to throw in the back of their pickup, it was by a Swede to compete in the National Matches or International matches the Nordic counties held. I'm sure the mil-surp gestapo doesn't see a difference, but those two things are vastly different in my eyes. ::end rant::


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Definitely a bubba job.

How much are they asking?
$200
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It might be worth $200 but it will never have any real collector value.
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Old 02-15-2017, 8:42 PM
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It might be worth $200 but it will never have any real collector value.
It definitely is an interesting rifle that is probably better built than most rifles these days. It could make for a good Jeff Cooper type scout rifle maybe in a good cartridge. I might stop by tomorrow and give another look at it with $200 in my pocket but there are so many other things I want and do not know if I can afford just dropping $200 on this project when I want so many other things ugh! Too many choices!
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It could make for a good Jeff Cooper type scout rifle maybe in a good cartridge.
It is already in "a good cartridge", 6.5X55 is an outstanding all around cartridge, good for target shooting and hunting anything in the U.S. except maybe big bears.
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It is already in "a good cartridge", 6.5X55 is an outstanding all around cartridge, good for target shooting and hunting anything in the U.S. except maybe big bears.


They use them in Scandinavia for up to Moose. One of the best cartridges ever made.


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$200 is a good deal for a shooter grade 6.5 Swede.
If the bore, crown and throat are good, would be a great deer rifle candidate.
If you don't want it OP....let me know where it is at.
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$200 is a good deal for a shooter grade 6.5 Swede.
If the bore, crown and throat are good, would be a great deer rifle candidate.
If you don't want it OP....let me know where it is at.
I bet it's near San Pedro. If I seen one like it in a gun shop around here, it would already be mine I think.
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Old 02-16-2017, 9:03 AM
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Check the bottom of the stock for a hand carved cartouche:

"Buba wus hear"
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If that was mine I would D&T it, sell off the stock on Gunboards, and glass bed it into a Boyds stock or something similar.

No I am not joking this time Bobby haha.
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That pic is so bad, it's hard to see much...

The bolt has been bent by who knows...

The stock has been cut...

No barrel bands...

The action and barrel could be either a M/96 or a M/38...Maybe even a M/94

Can't see the rear sights...

It does maybe have the original front sight... But only if the barrel is from a M/38 or M/94

Bubba hit that one hard and often...
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Well the bent bolt would go along with the m/38 line of reasoning


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Well the bent bolt would go along with the m/38 line of reasoning
Hard to tell from the photo, but that doesn't look like a M38 bolt. A legit m38 bolt is shaped different than that, the bend is sharper, and the top is flat.

Look at the one in this auction for what a M38 bolt would look like:
http://www.gunauction.com/buy/7373834

Pretty sure the M94 is the same.
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Hard to tell from the photo, but that doesn't look like a M38 bolt. A legit m38 bolt is shaped different than that, the bend is sharper, and the top is flat.



Look at the one in this auction for what a M38 bolt would look like:

http://www.gunauction.com/buy/7373834



Pretty sure the M94 is the same.


Very true. It's probably a long shot but my m/41 has a torch bent bolt that looks similar as I recall.


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Very true. It's probably a long shot but my m/41 has a torch bent bolt that looks similar as I recall.
That rifle is definitely not a sniper, and has never been a sniper rifle...

The M/41's had a different straighter bend to their bolts, not round as the one in the pic.

Compare to mine.
M/41


M/41B, The bolts and bolt parts were blackened using the "Dulite" process.
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Well the bent bolt would go along with the m/38 line of reasoning
M/38's had factory forged down turned bolts ..Not bent.

The rifle in OP's post is simply a bubba creation.

M/38 forged bolt profile.
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