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Old 02-09-2017, 8:25 PM
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Won this along with some stocks and a drill rifle in another estate auction. Anyone know anything about helmets? I believe it's a USAF HGU-26/P.


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Old 02-09-2017, 8:26 PM
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Nice finds. What kind of stocks did you get?
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Might as well post the drill rifle too:


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Picked them up today and everything seems to be in very good condition. Went through the stocks and found a Norinco SKS stock, black polymer AK stock, Winchester shotgun buttstock, unfinished Bishop stock, and an M1903 handguard. Drill rifle has some dings and scuffs, but still looks good. The real treasures are the helmet and dress unis. The dress blues and flight jacket are in very good matching condition. The helmet has the interior padding mostly disintegrated, but the headset seems to be intact minus one of the ears.

So the real question is, what the hell do I have? As far as the jacket, helmet, dress blues, and Bishop stock go, I have no idea what they're worth or what I have specifically. Values for these would be great as well. More detailed pictures will roll in as I take them.
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Civil Air Patrol our of Stead AFB Nevada?
Some interesting stocks.
The sling keep on the parade rifle is backwards.
Thanks, for sharing sorry have no idea what the values would be.

Knew a local Doctor that took a membership in that CAP unit as a Major, at that time he got PX privileges. Don't know if they still do though, he moved and took his 2 gunsafes full of Class III's to WA.
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The SKS wood has had the cross bolt removed, spiker bayo. Was it screwed up there. Many folks mistakenly think the slotted bolt end is for a screw driver, but it actually takes a spanner wrench or snap ring pliers from the other side. $35+ if it's not damaged at where the cross bolt should be

The black pistol grip/Drag looking, HK 91? Who knows for Kali, $75?? else where.

Helmet, functioning head set & mike, $100 for starters (no visor?)

All guesses, PAX
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Black thumb hole - fn fal sporter
The small buttstock looks like buttstock for a 1919.
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Third stock down and fhe fore end look like Winchester pump furniture, but could be a couple different brands. Certainly a pump 12g.
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I like that helmet. I've got a couple from the early jet era days, Naval & Air Force. If it's going down the road, let me know. PAX
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That Winchester shotgun stock had a US Ordnance Wheel acceptance stamp, its probably worth a few bucks but it looks to nice to be from a vintage 1897, maybe its a reproduction.

The rifle stock with the LR 98 is probably for a Large Ring K98 Mauser action. The synthetic thumbhole stock should be for an AK.
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Thanks for the info. That basically confirms a lot what I was thinking of related to the stocks. Anyone know how to identify 1897 reproduction furniture or have any other info regarding the jackets and helmet?
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The buttstock is for a Model 12 riot, and the forearm is for a model 1200 Defender.
The Bishop stock is for a large ring 98 action with a heavy barrel (Varmint or Bench rifle) and looks like it might be Myrtle wood?
I'll take an educated guess on the sawed off buttstock,... for a Winchester Model 1892 someone was making into a Mare's leg. Show me a pic of the inlet on it.
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So does a Civil Air Patrol Captain rate a salute from regular enlisted folks?
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The buttstock is for a Model 12 riot, and the forearm is for a model 1200 Defender.
The Bishop stock is for a large ring 98 action with a heavy barrel (Varmint or Bench rifle) and looks like it might be Myrtle wood?
I'll take an educated guess on the sawed off buttstock,... for a Winchester Model 1892 someone was making into a Mare's leg. Show me a pic of the inlet on it.
I believe you're right, Trap. It does have cutouts for both the upper and lower tangs. As far as wood goes, no I have no idea. It does look like the color of Myrtle, but with the grain pattern of walnut; I'll have to ask my father-in-law next time he comes down since I know jack about wood.

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Did a little research and I don't think so unless you feel like it. You'd probably get laughed at though.
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I believe you're right, Trap. It does have cutouts for both the upper and lower tangs. As far as wood goes, no I have no idea. It does look like the color of Myrtle, but with the grain pattern of walnut; I'll have to ask my father-in-law next time he comes down since I know jack about wood.



Did a little research and I don't think so unless you feel like it. You'd probably get laughed at though.

Looks like he did see some military service, according to at least 3-4 of his ribbons. the rest I think are specific to CAP.
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That is one strange looking cut of wood, one side looks like Myrtle, one side like birch, and the close up on the barrel channel looks like walnut grain. Looks like it might be a walnut trunk cut where the heartwood meets the sap wood.
If you come this way, bring it with you. I'll give it a once over with some 100 grit and wipe it down with a thinned coat of BLO to see what it has for grain, and protect the wood. Probably find a buyer for it if you want to sell it too.
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Looks like he did see some military service, according to at least 3-4 of his ribbons. the rest I think are specific to CAP.
Yeah, I could identify about 2/3 of them with some digging. Looks like he was a WWII vet from the Pacific Theater and did some rescue flying for CAP.

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That is one strange looking cut of wood, one side looks like Myrtle, one side like birch, and the close up on the barrel channel looks like walnut grain. Looks like it might be a walnut trunk cut where the heartwood meets the sap wood.
If you come this way, bring it with you. I'll give it a once over with some 100 grit and wipe it down with a thinned coat of BLO to see what it has for grain, and protect the wood. Probably find a buyer for it if you want to sell it too.
I think the discoloration might be due to a little bit of water damage. Looking at it closely, it would probably clean up with a bit of sanding as all of it seems to be surface age with no cracks. If you do know of someone interested, point them my way as I'm probably going to turn over or trade all of this.
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I'll toss out an alternate suggestion and go with a Winchester 1907 rifle - early model. Although I'm not betting against the 1897.

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I'll toss out an alternate suggestion and go with a Winchester 1907 rifle - early model. Although I'm not betting against the 1897.
All three were probably cut from the same pattern, but the buttplate is a 12, it has a short bottom only tang inlet for a 12, vs a top tang only inlet for a 1907.
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The poly thumbhole stock is off a Bulgarian SLR-95
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Dan on the GB forums got me this on the ribbons:

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It took some digging to find these so far. I am thinking based on the dates of some that others may be Army Air Corps or early AF

Starting at top left and working to bottom right:
1. Leadership Award (1966-1982)
2. Command Service
3. Search "Find" Award
4. Unit Citation
5. Membership Award (1966-1982) (That is the red,white,black swoop one but its upside down)
6. Search And Rescue (solid blue looks plastic so 1956-present)
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9. Blue Service (1949-1971)
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7. Almost appears to be the Army Good Conduct (also used by the AF when it was first broken out as its own branch)

8. Almost looks like the Army Occupation Ribbon (color is off a bit)

10. Color is off a bit but shades and arrangement look like WWII Victory

11. Asiatic-Pacific ribbon???

12. Layout looks like Phillipine Independence (which would go with 8, 10 and 11)
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Yeah, those are all what I came up with. I think the white bands are yellowed with age. I'll have to look in person.
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