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Old 02-15-2017, 8:52 AM
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School me on the 1903 Springfield
And how it compares to the A3
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The 03-A3 is a updated and simplified 1903 whith many parts being made out of stampings instead of milled parts.... The sights on the 03-A3 are much better, and if you want a shooter buy a 03-A3...

If you are a collector you need both, as well as all the different variations such as one of each of the different manufacturers...
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I prefer the aesthetics of the 1903 with the grooved stock. Make sure serial I north of 275k for Rock Island and 750k for Springfield.

Still need to add an 03a3 to the collection.
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Everyone say the sights are superior on the A3
But what exactly makes them more superior?
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Everyone say the sights are superior on the A3
But what exactly makes them more superior?
There's only one aperture.
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Everyone say the sights are superior on the A3
But what exactly makes them more superior?
I actually have not seen through the sights of the original 1903. But I do know that the sights on the A3 are just so damn easy to pick up. And if you've shot an M1, then the sights are pretty familiar.
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Everyone say the sights are superior on the A3
But what exactly makes them more superior?
The A3 has an adjustable peep sight.

The 1903 just has an adjustable blade sight.
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Ladder sight 1903. In the down position is set at 547yds.
03a3 peep sight.

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This is gonna be a hard decision...
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How much do these run nowadays?
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The 1903 has a TINY aperture and are essentially match sights. The A3 has combat sights, and as people have said is very similar to the Garand. I have a ton of trouble seeing though the peep on the 1903 and I have really good eyes. It is just too small for any real light transmission. I actually got another aperture piece and drilled the hole out a little but. It is still really small, but more useable.
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The 1903 has a TINY aperture and are essentially match sights. The A3 has combat sights, and as people have said is very similar to the Garand. I have a ton of trouble seeing though the peep on the 1903 and I have really good eyes. It is just too small for any real light transmission. I actually got another aperture piece and drilled the hole out a little but. It is still really small, but more useable.
Yes, that small aperture is so small many people don't even notice it's there. The ladder sight is also quite fragile. I much prefer the sight on the 03A3. BTW, those two groove barrels can shoot really well, too. A friend picked up an 03A3 on an impulse at the CMP Anniston store. We shot it in a vintage rifle match and it would hold the 200 yd x-ring on a SR target. It shot better than me.... (my friend is a Master Class shooter, me not so much)
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The action on my 03 is way slicker than the action on my 03A3 that is pretty slick.
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This is gonna be a hard decision...
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How much do these run nowadays?
I think 03s are a bit pricier (don't quote me on that)

I got my A3 for 650.
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Having owned and shot both extensively....I say 03A3 hands down because of the sights. I think going current rate for a shooter grade of either is about $800 and up. Good luck in your search.
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The 03A3 sights are on the rear of the receiver, and closer to your eye, and the 03 sights are on the barrel, and way far from your eye...

Longer sight radius = better accuracy...
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The only real complaint I can see for both is the completely unprotected front sight blade. They are otherwise great rifles.
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I prefer the aesthetics of the 1903 with the grooved stock. Make sure serial I north of 275k for Rock Island and 750k for Springfield.

Still need to add an 03a3 to the collection.
High number Rock Island 1903's start at 285507.

The low number/high number cutoff for the Springfield is less certain, but the CMP considers anything less than 810000 to be "low number"

OP, there are metallurgical issues with "low number" 1903's, such that the CMP does not allow them to be used in competition. Many people consider them safe and I do not care to start an argument, but just so you know.

The issue does not exist with the 03 A3 or the Remington 1903's.
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I prefer the longer sight radius of 03A3 and the fact that it has a peep sight. The 03 and 03A3 are both excellent shooters but if your eyesight is beginning to wain, you'll prefer shooting the 03A3.
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High number Rock Island 1903's start at 285507.

The low number/high number cutoff for the Springfield is less certain, but the CMP considers anything less than 810000 to be "low number"

OP, there are metallurgical issues with "low number" 1903's, such that the CMP does not allow them to be used in competition. Many people consider them safe and I do not care to start an argument, but just so you know.

The issue does not exist with the 03 A3 or the Remington 1903's.
Thanks for firming my numbers Stang!
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I bought my 03 from a private seller on CMP forum last year for $575. Looks like a CMP Greek return in nice shape. Good deals are out there but it takes luck. I posted "I'll take it" as soon as he emailed pics and like 4 others just missed it.
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The only real complaint I can see for both is the completely unprotected front sight blade. They are otherwise great rifles.
There is a sight hood for the 03

https://www.amazon.com/Military-Spri.../dp/B00GRA9TZO
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I was just about to post this.

It's cheap, great quality, and it works great.

The only downside is it definitely covers up the front sight post when its time to shoot. So just remove it when you shoot, and put it back on when you're done.
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I think im the only one that prefers the ladder sight on the 03. I think its much more precise and you can zero it at different notches on the ladder taking out the guess work when readjusting the rear aperture. The down position is zeroed for 547 yards but is considered a "belly" zero. Meaning aim for the belt and you will hit the target with great effect. Given that it was designed for trench warfare the sights make sense for the period.
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