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Old 05-15-2018, 8:43 PM
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Default Prop 69, stuck on this one.

What do you guys think about prop 69? I got the republican voting guide, said John Cox (lol) and yes on prop 69. I was leaning towards 'no'.
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Old 05-15-2018, 9:19 PM
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I voted Yes personally. I think a gas tax should be limited to transportation and don't trust our legislature not to use it toward some kind of new entitlement instead. Normally I oppose such proposition-based limitations, but in the case of gas taxes in particular, I think it makes sense.
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Old 05-15-2018, 10:15 PM
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Transportation, like the highway speed train to nowhere?
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Old 05-16-2018, 1:14 AM
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Transportation, like the highway speed train to nowhere?
You can argue about the specific transportation projects, but I'd submit that limiting it to transportation is better than no limits at all.
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Old 05-16-2018, 1:48 AM
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I've heard conservative groups say to vote yes, and others to vote no. It's the only one I'm unsure about. Someone was saying something about it not doing a good job at its intended purpose and that better reform legislation of this type was needed, that it was better to write something better and get it on the ballot and that approving this would take away any momentum from that (which does happen; happened to the eminent domain issue; the less comprehensive, inferior initiative got approved and the good one did not, and there has not been enough motivation to fill the gaps since).

Not sure what the case is on this one, really.
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Old 05-16-2018, 5:11 AM
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Transportation, like the highway speed train to nowhere?
Nailed it.
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Old 05-17-2018, 5:06 PM
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Yes. The CA government is notorious for taking money from infrastructure like roads and using it elsewhere. I recall a Prop M from years back was supposed to take care of our roads.
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It is a scam vote NO.


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Old 05-18-2018, 9:21 AM
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Vote no as it allows CA gas taxes to be spent on Jerry's train to nowhere.
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Old 05-18-2018, 2:28 PM
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If you're uncertain on any of the Props, look at the CA Voter Information Guide at the first page of each Prop. It shows the vote count by the Senate and Assembly. If you mostly disagree with the legislatures in CA, this will give you an idea on how to vote, IMO. There were 2 Props that received unanimous votes in both houses, 71 and 72, which means even the few conservatives we have in the houses voted for these. Props 68-70 were split with Yes and No votes.
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I voted 'no'. Let the people that voted for the gas tax not see a benefit from it as promised. Maybe it will change their tune next time. I doubt it, but if the funds are wasted on high speed train or wasted on some other entitlement payment, wasted money is wasted money....
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Old 05-19-2018, 4:47 PM
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I voted 'no'. Let the people that voted for the gas tax not see a benefit from it as promised. Maybe it will change their tune next time. I doubt it, but if the funds are wasted on high speed train or wasted on some other entitlement payment, wasted money is wasted money....
This is how I kind of feel. Let those idiots feel the pain. Maybe they'll pull their head out of their *** and actually read these measures and propositions and connect the dots.
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Old 05-20-2018, 11:06 AM
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Vote no on 69 as the gas tax recall is on the November ballot. That will fix it.
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Old 05-21-2018, 8:19 AM
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The gas tax is a leftie farce which the suckers of CA have to pay for Dem pet projects. We already pay high gas taxes which when first introduced it was claimed to fund roads and infrastructure but instead the major portion of it went to political Dem pet projects. The left CA politicians proposed bonds when they did not have a super majority. The new gas tax is just the beginning of what is to come next now that they have the majority. CA is a nanny state with a unfunded liability of over 400 billion. Hope you guys can bail out before it implodes.
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Old 05-21-2018, 9:13 AM
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The coming financial collapse of California is just what we need here. That will force the hands-out crowd to venture eastward to greener pastures.

When the welfare checks become IOU's, the riff-raff will pull up stakes here.
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Old 05-24-2018, 5:31 PM
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I will absolitely vote for gas tax recall!
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